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  Message Not Read  Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 10:19:46 AM 

I think everyone knows that Akron is an awful football program, but their stadium is an absolute gem.  I was really impressed with Rutgers Stadium, but I left Akron jealous last night.  I know we do not have an extra $51 million laying around to build the same thing, but it still stings to see a MAC team with a stadium like that.   I am actually a little surprised they are so terrible.  Their facilities are top notch.

Also, each road game makes me appreciate the 110 more.  Akron's band was very active during the game, but their halftime show was boring.  Kudos to the several 110 members that drove up for the game just as fans.  They sat right behind us and were the loudest members of Bobcat Nation yesterday.  I would estimate 1/3 or more of the stadium was green and white.  Overall, it was a really nice day.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 10:51:55 AM 
I thought Infocision was a beautiful stadium as well.  I don't think there is anything wrong with Peden, and I don't feel like I would really even like the idea of building a new one like Infocision.  The only think I want new in Peden is a new videotron so I can actually see the instant replays...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 11:00:11 AM 
Debt service on InfoCision is already becoming an issue. UofA has a very high debt level and the stadium has tied their hands with regard to upgrading their b-ball facilities.  I wonder why they didn't build a $35-$38 million stadium and spent the other $20MM on b-ball.  Many of their fans wonder the same thing.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 4:08:41 PM 
SBH wrote:
Debt service on InfoCision is already becoming an issue. UofA has a very high debt level and the stadium has tied their hands with regard to upgrading their b-ball facilities.  I wonder why they didn't build a $35-$38 million stadium and spent the other $20MM on b-ball.  Many of their fans wonder the same thing.


Akron has close to 75,000 alumni within a 30 mile radius of campus. It makes total sense to go first class with a football stadium. I've noticed Akron has really dropped off since Cincinnati moved to the Big East. To a large extent UC, Toledo and Akron would recruit the same urban players. UC now has their pick and Toledo with a more impressive school/city plus tradition than Akron then takes their cut. Then in NE Ohio Miami, BG, OU are very competitive in recruiting. There are too many FBS programs in Ohio and Akron is that one too many.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 4:32:17 PM 
KyleWvr13 wrote:
I thought Infocision was a beautiful stadium as well.  I don't think there is anything wrong with Peden, and I don't feel like I would really even like the idea of building a new one like Infocision.  The only think I want new in Peden is a new videotron so I can actually see the instant replays...


Peden has a very plain look to it. New stadiums being built today are very open with a lot of custom sections. Baseball parks are a perfect example to this and you see it to a lessor degree with new football stadiums. With the way its designed the stands in Akron look huge. A stadium like that makes it more fun to sit in and feels like a big time atmosphere. Peden with an upper deck stretching along the top of the student side all the way to the corner seats would really enhance the feel of the stadium. You don't have to put that many thousands of new seats in overall just make the stadium look more impressive. Go to an 18" seating width throughout the stadium instead of packing people in like sardines. Even this kind of improvement would be in the neighborhood of 10-15 million. We don't need luxury suites or anything extra fancy like that. Knock everything out in one project to fix the restrooms, concessions and seats.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 6:44:27 PM 
The biggest hindrance, to me, with fixing Peden is the two late-'80s curved sections that have never felt like actual pieces of the field. Plus, they were built at a time when there was still a track in the stadium. I haven't sat in those seats in a long time, but I don't remember the view being that close.

Victory Hill will never look right, either, because it wasn't built while being mindful of the antiquated scoreboard structure behind it. What should have happened was "squaring off" the field  and having some rows of endzone seats on that end of the field with a much more subtle grass slope behind it (perhaps like Akron's or a little smaller).

Akron's grass slope, if you were there and noticed, isn't just a random hill like ours is. It's there in the actual context of the stands. In other words, on the off chance that Akron football goes bigger time, they can gut that hill and put the seats in that they'd need to have to boast a bigger capacity. They could do the same thing with those two notches on the other end that currently have shrubs in them.

This is what I'd do at Peden before even adding a second deck:

1. Tear down those two curved sections and make the north end of the stadium more inclusive and more closely tied to the area on the north end closer to the field. Include in the structure's "ground floor" a men's and women's restroom and another concession stand or two.

2. Level Victory Hill and establish a south end of the stadium that's more in the same style of the revamped north end. Ditto restrooms and concession stands. Leave some grass, but maybe as a midsection between a couple of sections of seating.

3. Raze the existing scoreboard structure. It's had its day. Hell, if you want, rebuild it bigger and better and in the same look - BUT closer to the action and in the context of the actual stadium. This time, enable camera placement atop it, since it'll be a lot closer. That way, we'll move into the 1980s, when you could see field goal cams on TV broadcasts from both endzones, not one endzone and the other looking all the way downfield toward the other end.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/23/2011 7:16:39 PM 
BobcatJH wrote:

This is what I'd do at Peden before even adding a second deck:

1. Tear down those two curved sections and make the north end of the stadium more inclusive and more closely tied to the area on the north end closer to the field. Include in the structure's "ground floor" a men's and women's restroom and another concession stand or two.

2. Level Victory Hill and establish a south end of the stadium that's more in the same style of the revamped north end. Ditto restrooms and concession stands. Leave some grass, but maybe as a midsection between a couple of sections of seating.

3. Raze the existing scoreboard structure. It's had its day. Hell, if you want, rebuild it bigger and better and in the same look - BUT closer to the action and in the context of the actual stadium. This time, enable camera placement atop it, since it'll be a lot closer. That way, we'll move into the 1980s, when you could see field goal cams on TV broadcasts from both endzones, not one endzone and the other looking all the way downfield toward the other end.



This all makes a lot of sense. One thing to consider is the cost of tearing down those North end seats and rebuilding totally from the ground up. Would it make more sense to put in some restrooms in between those seats and redesign the touchdown club with permanent concessions? Try to expand the touchdown club with picnic tables. Put chair backs onto the those north end zone stands and make the entire section one premium area. I'm of the opinion that the sections around Peden don't have to be all nice and uniform matching up. This isn't the Big House or South Bend where symetrical seating is sacrosanct. Of course if they do design it the way your talking about it will still have my vote and I'll still contribute to it because something should be done. I would like to see the capacity knocked up to 27,000 so we aren't forcing our fans to sit on a dirt mound for big games. Five out of the last 10 home crowds in Peden Stadium have been 22,000+ because the AD is serious about growing the ticket base.   

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 9:53:10 AM 
Saturday was my third time visiting Infocision Stadium and I agree that it is a really nice venue, much nicer than the Rubber Bowl. Of course, that's not saying much. It's just a shame that they can't get people to come out and support their team. That's one thing that's baffled me about Akron and Kent State both. They both sit in Northeast Ohio, a football-crazy area, mere miles from the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and yet they consistently rank near the bottom in attendance.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 10:11:24 AM 
SBH wrote:
Debt service on InfoCision is already becoming an issue. UofA has a very high debt level and the stadium has tied their hands with regard to upgrading their b-ball facilities.  I wonder why they didn't build a $35-$38 million stadium and spent the other $20MM on b-ball.  Many of their fans wonder the same thing.




How much of the stadium are they actually financing?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 10:16:51 AM 
The stadium was very nice.  Plus I was surprised how easy it was to get in and out.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 10:41:50 AM 
Ted: My understanding is the bonds were for $45 to $48 million.  They got $10 million for naming rights.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 10:45:08 AM 
Akron's facilities seem to disprove the notion "build it and they will come."
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 10:46:30 AM 
OUE+Z Grad wrote:
Saturday was my third time visiting Infocision Stadium and I agree that it is a really nice venue, much nicer than the Rubber Bowl. Of course, that's not saying much. It's just a shame that they can't get people to come out and support their team. That's one thing that's baffled me about Akron and Kent State both. They both sit in Northeast Ohio, a football-crazy area, mere miles from the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and yet they consistently rank near the bottom in attendance.


It’s the same reason many Ohio students wear scarlet and gray, and why Athens is shamefully festooned with Bucknut garbage on Saturdays. The PD writes more stories about O$U’s backup quarterback than they do about Akron and Kent. That’s only the beginning of their problems, however. They both have long losing traditions, very little history of success, and largely apathetic alumni bases. I could drive about an hour to attend games at either venue, and I rarely do even though I’m a MAC fan. Kent State blew it when they built their stadium so far away from campus. Akron did everything right with InfoCision, but forgot to field a respectable team. Both places have potential, but it’s hard to see it. Akron has all the ingredients for a great gameday atmosphere except a competitive team. If they started winning, that stadium would no longer be filled with tumbleweed. As it is, it’s an expensive, glittering embarrassment.
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:03:40 AM 
SBH wrote:
Ted: My understanding is the bonds were for $45 to $48 million.  They got $10 million for naming rights.



While it's an economically challenging time to be paying on bonds, it is a great time to be borrowing money. Given what they were facing with the Rubber Bowl, it's probably something that needed to happen. I don't think they overbuilt with 27,000 seats. Hopefully, they get strong university and community use out of it for a long time and 10-20-30 years down the road they'll be paying back 2008 dollars with 2018, 2028 and 2038 dollars.

I have often wondered what the reaction was in 1965 when the Convo project was announced at $8.2M. That wasn't small change at the time but I think it has been a great investment for Ohio.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:08:20 AM 
The stadium seems to provide a really nice camera angle for the game. It looks great on TV, and gives the game a bigger feel.
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:22:41 AM 
Im a graduate student at Akron right now and I kind of agree with what others have said so far. I don't care which school it is, if you are a MAC team in Ohio, you must win games if you want people to attend.  Being at Akron is interesting because it is a university that is constantly changing and evolving so as to create an actual university experience rather than a commuter one.  While they are not yet there, the conversations I have with alumni make me feel like they are heading in the right direction. As far as football goes, if Akron made a MAC title run, the students and alumni here would absolutely get behind it more.

Also, I loved the Bobcats that traveled up here this pas weekend. I was decked out in my green and white and had a great time at the game.
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:26:36 AM 
Saturday was my second trip there, both times for the OHIO game, and it is a very impressive stadium. The support staff, ticket takers, ushers, consessionaires were extremely friendly and gracious and I would be hard pressed to register any negative comment.

Although I acknowledge that Akron is down, they certainly have the infrastructure in place to build a winning program. I think with their facilities and their location, one would think that those advantages would give them a leg up to being a premier MAC contender, especially when stacked against the other Ohio MAC schools.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Infocision Stadium
   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:57:28 AM 
I couldn't make it Saturday, but I usually go to a game or two a year at Akron. I agree with everyone that it's a great stadium. I'll even add that the Akron band (though not the 110 by any measure) is good. All that said, the stadium is a sad sight with so few fans and so few reasons to attend on the field. I say that with sincere regret -- I'd like to see both NE Ohio MAC programs have some sustained periods competitiveness and success (just not against the Bobcats). It would be good for the entire conference.
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 12:14:52 PM 
BobcatSports wrote:

Although I acknowledge that Akron is down, they certainly have the infrastructure in place to build a winning program. I think with their facilities and their location, one would think that those advantages would give them a leg up to being a premier MAC contender, especially when stacked against the other Ohio MAC schools.


Toledo has everything Akron has as a university plus more and I think that is where part of the problem lies. Another problem with Akron is the shift over the last couple of decades in HS football to Central and SW Ohio. Alan Swank thinks NE Ohio location is a big advantage but if it truly was the case Akron and Kent would never have to leave their backyard for recruits. Ohio has a similar disadvantage located in SE Ohio but from a national perspective its a lot easier to sell the campus and the moderate climate over the other MAC schools. No offense but Ohio has more to offer across the board as an experience than little Miami or Bowling Green. The academics in most departments are better. The parties are better. Everything is better.


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   Posted: 10/24/2011 3:00:45 PM 
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
The stadium was very nice.  Plus I was surprised how easy it was to get in and out.
Stadiums at 15% capacity tend to be easy to get into and out of. Ask the folks in Ypsilanti.
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   Posted: 10/24/2011 3:20:42 PM 
anorris wrote:
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
The stadium was very nice.  Plus I was surprised how easy it was to get in and out.
Stadiums at 15% capacity tend to be easy to get into and out of. Ask the folks in Ypsilanti.

I mean't the streets were easy to navigate.  And no corner like Richland/Shafer/S. Green Drive.  Lack of crowd helped for sure, but the exits to Rt. 8 were nice.


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   Posted: 10/29/2011 12:00:53 AM 
Ok....random question. I saw someone at the game wearing a fitted OU hat (or at least one that was a flexfit) that was black with a green bill. Is anyone at all familiar with what I am talking about? If so, where can I get one? It was pretty cool.
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