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This could get interesting soon. Last Edited: 7/30/2021 8:02:44 PM by colobobcat66 Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,690 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/30/2021 10:14:40 PM  Isn’t there currently 3 divisions? Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,336 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/30/2021 11:35:12 PM  Sounds like it's more about what the NCAA is and how it relates to conferences and schools instead of redoing divisions. Per ESPN: "It's evident we're going take a hard look at the structure and governance of the association and have a discussion about values and a discussion of goals,'' said Mid-American Conference Commissioner Jon Steinbrecher, a member of the Division I Council. "We've talked about modernization of the rules, well, perhaps its time to modernize the association. So here we go.'' ***** "I think it's really the shifting legal environment, the economic environment, the political environment, all of that, that creates this opportunity in a lot of ways to stop and erase the blackboard and draw a new chart again," Emmert said. "And that's a really, really powerful opportunity that can't be wasted." We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,471 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/31/2021 8:39:11 AM  giacomo wrote: Isn’t there currently 3 divisions? To clarify, another report stated it as “across all 3 divisions” Back to Top BobcatSports General User Member Since: 2/2/2006 Post Count: 1,084 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/31/2021 2:13:27 PM  Earth to the NCAA there’s a new sheriff in town and it goes by the name of SEC. That shot across the bow this week with a 14-0 vote to accept Texas and Oklahoma by the SEC prez’s all but rendered the already weakened NCAA virtually meaningless and the SEC the new King that will dictate the terms going forward. I’m of the belief that there may be a re-alignment of the Big10-PAC12-ACC-Big12-Notre Dame into maybe 2 or 3 super conferences to compete with the SEC and they will leave the NCAA desperate, dateless and powerless. I’m also of the belief that the MAC-CUSA-SunBelt’s etc. of the world will be forced to eat at the Kid’s table even more so under this new world order. I think some additional shake ups and shake-outs will start to happen pretty quickly interesting days ahead for college sports. Back to Top SVAC83 General User Member Since: 10/1/2019 Post Count: 143 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/31/2021 4:39:47 PM  BobcatSports wrote: Earth to the NCAA there’s a new sheriff in town and it goes by the name of SEC. That shot across the bow this week with a 14-0 vote to accept Texas and Oklahoma by the SEC prez’s all but rendered the already weakened NCAA virtually meaningless and the SEC the new King that will dictate the terms going forward. I’m of the belief that there may be a re-alignment of the Big10-PAC12-ACC-Big12-Notre Dame into maybe 2 or 3 super conferences to compete with the SEC and they will leave the NCAA desperate, dateless and powerless. I’m also of the belief that the MAC-CUSA-SunBelt’s etc. of the world will be forced to eat at the Kid’s table even more so under this new world order. I think some additional shake ups and shake-outs will start to happen pretty quickly interesting days ahead for college sports. I don't believe the SEC is the new king yes they now have the most major football brands. But the SEC has the problem that you have to have someone else to beat and push around or what does it matter. What makes college football appealing is it is regional. Yes there are people that only care about the biggest games. But i know a lot of people that live in the midwest that on a average week could care less about the SEC until bowl season. I actually think. That yes the rich are going to get richer and yes there are going to be super conferences. But i think the SEC and most people know that the cash cow is in giving more people the belief they have the opportunity. I think now you are going to see the conferences agree on a set of rules that they all agree too and the NCAA will just be a place these things run through instead of the NCAA making the rules. All the power and enforcement will be at the conference level. We have to realize the NCAA is more then just Football. But in the present world and in court rulings it is useless in its present format. My Guess is the NCAA or what replaces it may become more of a title then a actual place. But who knows a month ago i would of never of dreamed of texas and oklahoma in the SEC Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,336 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 7/31/2021 6:34:45 PM  The NCAA will become essentially what the commissioner of MLB has been since Fay Vincent was ousted -- just a figurehead organization that will nod to the conferences. Look for a push for an athletes' union to protect their interests. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,610 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/1/2021 10:48:17 AM  BobcatSports wrote: Earth to the NCAA there’s a new sheriff in town and it goes by the name of SEC. That shot across the bow this week with a 14-0 vote to accept Texas and Oklahoma by the SEC prez’s all but rendered the already weakened NCAA virtually meaningless and the SEC the new King that will dictate the terms going forward. I’m of the belief that there may be a re-alignment of the Big10-PAC12-ACC-Big12-Notre Dame into maybe 2 or 3 super conferences to compete with the SEC and they will leave the NCAA desperate, dateless and powerless. I’m also of the belief that the MAC-CUSA-SunBelt’s etc. of the world will be forced to eat at the Kid’s table even more so under this new world order. I think some additional shake ups and shake-outs will start to happen pretty quickly interesting days ahead for college sports. I'm not sure it's the SEC news that was the catalyst here. I think the supreme court issued a shot across the bow with their unanimous decision recently, and two different opinions being published, one by a Conservative judge who clearly stated that he considered their model to be unconstitutional. The jig is up for the NCAA as currently structured. It'll be interesting what it becomes, but my guess is that football and basketball are broken away completely, and operate under a different governing body as actual businesses affiliated with the universities. The NCAA as we know it will likely oversee olympic sports, and lower level schools where amatuerism is actually an apt description. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,998 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 8:52:31 AM  giacomo wrote: Isn’t there currently 3 divisions? No there are currently 4 Divisions: III, II, FCS, FBS. The split will be in the FBS. All I can say, is you all wanted the playoffs, you've got them, when this washesout, we may be less relevent than ever. , Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,998 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 8:54:01 AM  Pataskala wrote: The NCAA will become essentially what the commissioner of MLB has been since Fay Vincent was ousted -- just a figurehead organization that will nod to the conferences. Look for a push for an athletes' union to protect their interests. I would agree with this. Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 776 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 10:50:25 AM  On the the Eddie and Rocky Show yesterday on WLW, Rocky Boiman mentioned that OSU 2022 QB recruit Quinn Ewers, the top rated player in the nation, will forego his senior season of high school in order to tap early into the NIL frenzy. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 11:48:38 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: BobcatSports wrote: Earth to the NCAA there’s a new sheriff in town and it goes by the name of SEC. That shot across the bow this week with a 14-0 vote to accept Texas and Oklahoma by the SEC prez’s all but rendered the already weakened NCAA virtually meaningless and the SEC the new King that will dictate the terms going forward. I’m of the belief that there may be a re-alignment of the Big10-PAC12-ACC-Big12-Notre Dame into maybe 2 or 3 super conferences to compete with the SEC and they will leave the NCAA desperate, dateless and powerless. I’m also of the belief that the MAC-CUSA-SunBelt’s etc. of the world will be forced to eat at the Kid’s table even more so under this new world order. I think some additional shake ups and shake-outs will start to happen pretty quickly interesting days ahead for college sports. I'm not sure it's the SEC news that was the catalyst here. I think the supreme court issued a shot across the bow with their unanimous decision recently, and two different opinions being published, one by a Conservative judge who clearly stated that he considered their model to be unconstitutional. The jig is up for the NCAA as currently structured. It'll be interesting what it becomes, but my guess is that football and basketball are broken away completely, and operate under a different governing body as actual businesses affiliated with the universities. The NCAA as we know it will likely oversee olympic sports, and lower level schools where amatuerism is actually an apt description. Let's rephrase it then, the shot that hit the bow...... Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,348 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 12:19:21 PM  CatsUp wrote: On the the Eddie and Rocky Show yesterday on WLW, Rocky Boiman mentioned that OSU 2022 QB recruit Quinn Ewers, the top rated player in the nation, will forego his senior season of high school in order to tap early into the NIL frenzy. His senior season of high school, or his senior season of football? He's going to enter OSU without a high school diploma? I knew the standards up in Cowtown for football players was rather low, but this would even beat the Andy Katzenmoyer eligibility fix. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,904 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 12:29:34 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: CatsUp wrote: On the the Eddie and Rocky Show yesterday on WLW, Rocky Boiman mentioned that OSU 2022 QB recruit Quinn Ewers, the top rated player in the nation, will forego his senior season of high school in order to tap early into the NIL frenzy. His senior season of high school, or his senior season of football? He's going to enter OSU without a high school diploma? I knew the standards up in Cowtown for football players was rather low, but this would even beat the Andy Katzenmoyer eligibility fix. Taking online class now - once he passes he will have his diploma Was expected to enter in January so was planning ahead. Smart move - has $1 million already lined up. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,998 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 12:55:16 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: CatsUp wrote: On the the Eddie and Rocky Show yesterday on WLW, Rocky Boiman mentioned that OSU 2022 QB recruit Quinn Ewers, the top rated player in the nation, will forego his senior season of high school in order to tap early into the NIL frenzy. His senior season of high school, or his senior season of football? He's going to enter OSU without a high school diploma? I knew the standards up in Cowtown for football players was rather low, but this would even beat the Andy Katzenmoyer eligibility fix. Had an online english class to complete, which I believe was final today 8/3 and he has his diploma. Kids graduate early all the time, at the school I work at, we have at least 1 a year who does that. Back to Top BobcatSports General User Member Since: 2/2/2006 Post Count: 1,084 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 7:35:02 PM  Rumors Clemson and Florida State are trying to get dance tickets to the SEC Ball. I restate my case, SEC is the driving force in the collegiate football world and the NCAA doesn’t know whether to $hit or wind their watch. Outkick even has an article on it. Sure looks like a couple of super conferences as the remnants of the Big12 and the largely irrelevant Pac12 are now in conversation as to what their next moves should/could be. Interesting times ahead and I don’t think it bodes well for the Little Sisters of the Poor conferences such as the MAC-CUSA, etc. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,336 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 11:24:58 PM  Saw a headline pushing for an all-Texas conference with all the non-SEC 1A teams. That would be Tech, Baylor, Houston, TCU, SMU, Rice, UTEP, NTex, UTSA, and Texas St. Doubt that it would happen but it shows the desperation some folks are feeling about all this. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,348 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/3/2021 11:51:57 PM  Pataskala wrote: Saw a headline pushing for an all-Texas conference with all the non-SEC 1A teams. That would be Tech, Baylor, Houston, TCU, SMU, Rice, UTEP, NTex, UTSA, and Texas St. Doubt that it would happen but it shows the desperation some folks are feeling about all this. There once was a conference with all Texas schools plus Arkansas. It was called the Southwestern Conference. The make up of this proposed conference has a few of the same players, but the big dogs have all moved on. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,405 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 12:13:25 PM  This whole thing makes me not want to watch college sports anymore. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 2:25:34 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Pataskala wrote: Saw a headline pushing for an all-Texas conference with all the non-SEC 1A teams. That would be Tech, Baylor, Houston, TCU, SMU, Rice, UTEP, NTex, UTSA, and Texas St. Doubt that it would happen but it shows the desperation some folks are feeling about all this. There once was a conference with all Texas schools plus Arkansas. It was called the Southwestern Conference. The make up of this proposed conference has a few of the same players, but the big dogs have all moved on. I wouldn't object to SWC-Lite. And to be honest, I don't think the "bigger schools" would not object to being the bigger dogs in this conference. Invite OK State and maybe NM State, I think it would be a fun little league. Otherwise, build out a 2nd tier of the FCS schools underneath them and have a strategic scheduling partnership for football and the basketball non-league schedule. Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 776 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 2:37:52 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: This whole thing makes me not want to watch college sports anymore. As the changes college football is undergoing increasingly widen the competitive gap between Ohio (and the G5 in general) and those in the new power conferences, there will be a corresponding disinterest for me as well. If the powers that be think everyone is going to simply switch to another team when their team or conference is further stripped of any relevance I think they are mistaken. Having said that, they probably don’t care that much. What perhaps should be of more concern to them, however, is I suspect that even many alums of power conference universities have, or will have, somewhat less reverence for the game (and team) than they did. For instance, will they still be as interested with regional rivalries disappearing in a lot of cases? Do they feel like the football team has the same student-affiliation with the university it once had and, if not, can they relate as well to it? If people want to watch the ultimate in pro football will they begin to focus on the NFL? Over time that “big pot of college football gold” everyone is fighting over may start to dwindle. Back to Top AZBobcat General User Member Since: 9/7/2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Post Count: 73 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 2:39:21 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: This whole thing makes me not want to watch college sports anymore. Completely agree. The gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting so large, it doesn't even seem like OU is playing the same sport anymore. We weren't on that level before, but at least there was an illusion that we were in the same division. Between the constant conference moves, the NIL stuff (how many Ohio players are going to get NIL deals?), the ever-growing influence of ESPN... it feels like the whole thing is made to flow cash up to the Alabamas of the world, and either you're in the club, or you aren't. And we aren't. I follow Aston Villa in the English Premier League. In 2016 they got relegated to the second division. It's still the same sport, Villa was just playing different teams from before, but just knowing they weren't "at the top level," even the bottom of the top level, it just wasn't the same. This feels not-dissimilar. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,348 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 3:29:12 PM  CatsUp wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: This whole thing makes me not want to watch college sports anymore. . . .Over time that “big pot of college football gold” everyone is fighting over may start to dwindle. I think that this is almost inevitable. It took years and years to build up the kind of loyalty that a lot of folks feel toward college football and their favorite school. It'll take a long time for that to dissipate, but I think as the generations roll on college football (and maybe other major college sports as well) are going to be less and less relevant because they will be increasingly viewed as semi-pro and not really an integral part of the university's whose name they bear. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,336 Status: Offline     RE: The NCAA is bailing    Posted: 8/4/2021 5:56:35 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: This whole thing makes me not want to watch college sports anymore. Personally, I'd rather watch G5 games. They're usually more competitive and just more fun to watch. There are very few "P" school games I care to watch anymore. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 24  of 24 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 225 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 225 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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