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Topic:  Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?

Topic:  Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
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ExCat21
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  Message Not Read  Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 11:01:21 AM 
I hope changes are made at the professional level to at least get the last 2-3 minutes of a game reviewed for bad calls. But if Lord Goodell exercises this right...I may not watch pro football again:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/wild-nfl-rule-allows-r... /


What are your thoughts? Hopefully we do not have this rule in college.
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 11:21:02 AM 
If they had called pass interference,the dynamics of the end of the game would have changed.
But that play, in and of itself didn't necessarily change the outcome of the game.

New Orleans could have used more clock,but still needed to score.

The odds are against it,but they could have fumbled or ,if they needed to go for a field goal,had it blocked or missed.

I can't see the the commissioner doing anything but trying to find a solution for next season.

I'd like to see a coach be able to challenge any non call,like the missed pass interference call against the Saints.

Last Edited: 1/22/2019 11:22:33 AM by rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 11:42:00 AM 
As I've said before, pass interference calls (and non calls) are boarding on ridiculous in recent years. Despite what some rules experts will tell you, there is clearly no actual standard. On virtually every play in both college and pro football you can see pass interference no calls -- sometimes downright muggings. IMHO, the rules on pass interference need to be drastically changed. This particular case is just getting so much attention because of the magnitude of the game and obvious effect it likely had on the outcome.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 12:42:18 PM 
In the CFL, the booth can review (on its own or through a coach's challenge) whether there was pass interference on a play. It happens maybe once or twice a game and from what I've seen winds up calling interference about 75% of the time.

As for Goodell invoking the rule, won't happen. The rule says he can change the result or have the game replayed due to an "extraordinary act." The refs screwing up are so commonplace in the NFL that the rule doesn't apply.

Last Edited: 1/22/2019 12:49:57 PM by Pataskala

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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 1:40:52 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
As I've said before, pass interference calls (and non calls) are boarding on ridiculous in recent years. Despite what some rules experts will tell you, there is clearly no actual standard. On virtually every play in both college and pro football you can see pass interference no calls -- sometimes downright muggings. IMHO, the rules on pass interference need to be drastically changed. This particular case is just getting so much attention because of the magnitude of the game and obvious effect it likely had on the outcome.


This is why ultimately I think it's impossible to allow review for non-calls.

The end result of that will just be teams calling for a review every time they fail to convert on a key third down. And refs will have to look for PI and holding, and will be able to find something more often than not. Seems messy.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 2:12:46 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
As I've said before, pass interference calls (and non calls) are boarding on ridiculous in recent years. Despite what some rules experts will tell you, there is clearly no actual standard. On virtually every play in both college and pro football you can see pass interference no calls -- sometimes downright muggings. IMHO, the rules on pass interference need to be drastically changed. This particular case is just getting so much attention because of the magnitude of the game and obvious effect it likely had on the outcome.


This is why ultimately I think it's impossible to allow review for non-calls.

The end result of that will just be teams calling for a review every time they fail to convert on a key third down. And refs will have to look for PI and holding, and will be able to find something more often than not. Seems messy.


And people will bitch about games taking too long. Here is a good idea, let's require players and coaches to be perfect in a game (after all they are paid very well, they should not make mistakes), like we do officials. Problem solved.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 2:14:05 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:


This is why ultimately I think it's impossible to allow review for non-calls.

The end result of that will just be teams calling for a review every time they fail to convert on a key third down. And refs will have to look for PI and holding, and will be able to find something more often than not. Seems messy.


The way I see this working would be like any coach's challenge.
X per game.
If you're wrong,you lose a time out.

Last X minutes of game.
Booth review.
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Mark Lembright '85
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/22/2019 5:51:36 PM 
Clearly the non-call was awful. New Orleans has a very legit beef.

But New Orleans is just as at fault for losing the game. Even after the non-call New Orleans kicked a field goal to take a 23-20 lead with a little over 1:30 left to play. So New Orleans still had the lead. But then it was the New Orleans defense that allowed the Rams to drive and make a game-tying field goal. Then on overtime, having the ball first, it was New Orleans who committed the turnover and gave the ball to the Rams.

So New Orleans still had their chances. They just didn’t capitalize on them. The Rams did.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/23/2019 10:11:09 AM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Clearly the non-call was awful. New Orleans has a very legit beef.

But New Orleans is just as at fault for losing the game. Even after the non-call New Orleans kicked a field goal to take a 23-20 lead with a little over 1:30 left to play. So New Orleans still had the lead. But then it was the New Orleans defense that allowed the Rams to drive and make a game-tying field goal. Then on overtime, having the ball first, it was New Orleans who committed the turnover and gave the ball to the Rams.

So New Orleans still had their chances. They just didn’t capitalize on them. The Rams did.


+1

Funny, no one wants to complain about the Roughing the Passer call on Brady that extended a drive and led to a TD.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/23/2019 12:01:56 PM 
And now the inevitable lawsuit asking a Louisiana court to order Goodell to overturn the outcome of the game: https://www.nola.com/saints/2019/01/2-saints-fans-file-la...

The suit seeks a writ of mandamus, which won't work because mandamus can only be had against courts, public officials, and governmental agencies, none of which applies to the NFL. They also want monetary damages for emotional distress, which ain't gonna happen. Cheap publicity.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Will Lord Goodell exercise this rule?
   Posted: 1/23/2019 1:46:16 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
And now the inevitable lawsuit asking a Louisiana court to order Goodell to overturn the outcome of the game: https://www.nola.com/saints/2019/01/2-saints-fans-file-la...

The suit seeks a writ of mandamus, which won't work because mandamus can only be had against courts, public officials, and governmental agencies, none of which applies to the NFL. They also want monetary damages for emotional distress, which ain't gonna happen. Cheap publicity.


Yes, cheap publicity, but these things are putting a hurting on the finances of State Associations all around the country.
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