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Doc Bobcat
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Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 7:24:21 AM

As always a bunch of players will get PT. Here are some that should. Add your players to the list if you want.

OFFENSE

QB-Rourke

RBs-Ross-Allison-Wilbon-Tuggle.

WRs-Cox-Ball-Buckner-Odom

TEs-Luehrman Brothers-Burton-Foster-Clanton

C-Hayes

G-Meservy-Kitrell

T-Pleasants-Grimes

DEFENSE

DE-Ogan-Semore-Evans-Conrad-Stai-McNight

DT-Daxon-Baker-Arp-Caesar

LBs-Dorsa-Conner-Houston

CB-Hudson-Brooks-Motley Brothers

S-Hagen-Hampton-Floyd

Last Edited: 12/22/2018 7:39:55 AM by Doc Bobcat

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 7:44:29 AM

I think you have a good start with this list. The beauty of this is that no positions are totally devoid of experienced and talented players.

Two of my upcoming favorites are FR LB Keye Thompson and RS Fr CB Tariq Drake.

The four game redshirt rule seems to help showcase future impact players such as Thompson and Buckner. lPus second year players like RB Ross were held to four games to give him an additional year of eligibility since we had Oulette and Irons carrying the load this year.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 8:16:12 AM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

As always a bunch of players will get PT. Here are some that should. Add your players to the list if you want.

OFFENSE

QB-Rourke

RBs-Ross-Allison-Wilbon-Tuggle.

WRs-Cox-Ball-Buckner-Odom

TEs-Luehrman Brothers-Burton-Foster-Clanton

C-Hayes

G-Meservy-Kitrell

T-Pleasants-Grimes

Is Ball coming back? I thought it was funny when the announcers thought he was in the game during the bowl game.
DEFENSE

DE-Ogan-Semore-Evans-Conrad-Stai-McNight

DT-Daxon-Baker-Arp-Caesar

LBs-Dorsa-Conner-Houston

CB-Hudson-Brooks-Motley Brothers

S-Hagen-Hampton-Floyd

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 8:33:44 AM

Pretty sure Ball's career is over at WR. I thought latest injury was his last? Unless I missed something.

I'd imagine 6'4 Hooks, Minter, Knock, Harris and Cherry gets some looks at WR. Lot of alleged depth there ... just need some consistency emerge.

Chukwu & Miller are back on DL I believe.

Mitchell at safety might help?

Last Edited: 12/22/2018 8:38:03 AM by bshot44

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 8:49:12 AM

bshot44 wrote:

Good additions bshot.

Agree with Ball but he�s still on the roster.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 9:02:08 AM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Please consider.

WR - Odom, Cox, Buckner (I think Mr. Ball's injury has ended his play.)
T - Pleasants, Grimes (Hoover to press Grimes if he enrolls this spring.)
G - Meservy, Hayes
C - Kitrell
DE - I hope Mr. Amir Miller returns.
DT - Baker, Arp (in the mix Burks, Caesar, Daxon)

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 9:11:03 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Agree Bcat that Hoover is a good addition for the OLine. Danneker might push Pleasants over to left tackle.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 11:03:13 AM

ytownbobcat wrote:

I like Drake and Thompson too. Drake is very quick and Thompson is a head hunter, I hope that start forever does not prevail.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 1:01:39 PM

I expect Sink at LG, Kittrell at Center, Popp at WLB, and Knock at WR.

Last Edited: 12/22/2018 1:03:34 PM by L.C.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 1:26:20 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Good additions bshot.

Agree with Ball but he�s still on the roster.

Arkley tweeted on signing day that Ball's scholarhsip would become available along with another current roster member but I can't remember who it was (maybe a TE?)

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 1:56:33 PM

OUs LONG Driver wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Good additions bshot.

Agree with Ball but he�s still on the roster.

Arkley tweeted on signing day that Ball's scholarhsip would become available along with another current roster member but I can't remember who it was (maybe a TE?)

You're right. It's Hoffman's scholarship that will become available

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/22/2018 7:28:49 PM

Hooks at WR should play with his 6/4 frame. Also the OL has experienced players in Pleasants, Kitrell, Hayes and Meservy. My guess is Grimes or another player at the other spot as also don't count out the RS frosh guys or the newly signed players to provide depth. Guessing the Vegas people will have Ohio underdogs at Pitt/Marshall, but favorites in the other two early games.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/23/2018 9:02:52 AM

And don't forget that we return for the fourth year in a row what I consider to be the top kicking combo in the MAC and perhaps the nation in Farkas and Zervos!!!!!!!!

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/23/2018 6:19:38 PM

If start forever is ended, this is my projected lineup.
OFFENSE

QB-Rourke

RBs-Wilbon, Ross

WRs-Cox-Buckner-Odom

TE- Clanton, Burton

C-Hayes

G-Meservy-Kitrell

T-Pleasants-Grimes-Vannest-Danneker

DEFENSE

DE-Ogan-Semore-Evans-Conrad-Stai-McNight

DT-Daxon-Baker-Arp-Caesar

LBs-Dorsa-Conner-Thompson-Robinson

CB-Drake-Brooks-Motley-Birchett

S-Hagen-Hudson-Hampton-Floyd

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/23/2018 6:44:44 PM

Forgetting Neatherton at RB. I'm predicting Ross, Allison, Neatherton.

I believe that this will be the deepest we've ever been at QB: Rourke, Maxwell, Mischler, Kezei, Little Rourke.

Last Edited: 12/23/2018 6:48:42 PM by AlumDadDad

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/23/2018 7:33:42 PM

AlumDadDad wrote:

Forgetting Neatherton at RB. I'm predicting Ross, Allison, Neatherton.

I believe that this will be the deepest we've ever been at QB: Rourke, Maxwell, Mischler, Kezei, Little Rourke.

So. RB wise I have seen the running ability. My concern for next season is when an opponent's DC decides to blitz his Tezino/Hodge type LB. Who among these RBs is going to stick said LB. Ouellette deserves credit for Rourke's current apparent good health. I worry that next season for lack of a blocking RB Rourke and Maxwell are both less than 100%.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:48:23 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

Forgetting Neatherton at RB. I'm predicting Ross, Allison, Neatherton.

I believe that this will be the deepest we've ever been at QB: Rourke, Maxwell, Mischler, Kezei, Little Rourke.

I agree that someone will need to step up and take up Oulette's previous role as far as blocking is concerned. There was a block he delivered that was against Akron if I remember correctly where it was so hard hitting that the defensive guy on the play didn't get up immediately after Oulette dropped the boom on him. Had a really good block in the Frisco bowl too.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/24/2018 11:52:44 PM

Ross looks like a stud I expect with the time to rehab and this off season will have turned him into a monster

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/25/2018 1:16:18 PM

allen wrote:

If start forever is ended..

I never have understood where this myth started. The only place I can think of is that it started with the policy that "you can't lose your starting position because of injury", or in other words, if you were the starter when you got hurt, you will still be the starter when you return (for at least part of one game). For example, this year we saw the rule "you can't lose your starting position due to injury" applied by starting Wood over Meservy, but Wood played well, and kept his starting position.

Meanwhile, though, we do see players move up and down the depth chart all the time, which, if there was a "start forever" policy, wouldn't happen. If there was a start forever policy, Maxwell would still be the starter, for example. Similarly, Gullett would not have moved ahead of Connor, Ogun-Semore wouldn't have been a starter, Fox would have stayed ahead of Hudson, and Hale would have stayed ahead of Devin King.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/25/2018 1:42:10 PM

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

If start forever is ended..

Scroll up. allen has already determined Wilbon, Clanton and Daxon need to be instant starters before they attend a practice. Now if they are not instant starters it will be because the "incompetent" coaches have this policy against starting younger/better players. allen has been here while Wood, Ouellette, Meservy and Pruehs all established themselves as freshmen, yet, he still thinks this is a good axe to grind against Ohio's coaches.

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/25/2018 1:47:40 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

Forgetting Neatherton at RB. I'm predicting Ross, Allison, Neatherton.

I believe that this will be the deepest we've ever been at QB: Rourke, Maxwell, Mischler, Kezei, Little Rourke.

For some examples of OUellette blocking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aS3drIImp0&t=304s
1. At 1:14, Ouellette takes on a LB with a full head of steam, Rourke competes a pass to Meyer for a big gain. Without the block, it's a probably a sack.
2. At 4:35, Rourke's doesn't score his second TD without OUellette's block. He was the outlet receiver, but he sees Rourke make the move to run, and finds someone the right man and makes the block.
3. At 4:46 Ouellette takes out another blitz, allowing Rourke to complete a long pass to Papi White. That block got the comment from the color guy "Boy, Ouellette is some player".
4. At 6:41, he picks up a corner blitz coming from from the outside, allowing a short completion, again noticed by the commentators.
5. At 6:56, it's another LB blitz, but Odom doesn't make the long catch.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/27/2018 4:55:35 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

As always a bunch of players will get PT. Here are some that should. Add your players to the list if you want.

OFFENSE
QB-Rourke
RBs-Ross-Allison-Wilbon-Tuggle.
WRs-Cox-Ball-Buckner-Odom
TEs-Luehrman Brothers-Burton-Foster-Clanton
C-Hayes
G-Meservy-Kitrell
T-Pleasants-Grimes

DEFENSE
DE-Ogan-Semore-Evans-Conrad-Stai-McNight
DT-Daxon-Baker-Arp-Caesar
LBs-Dorsa-Conner-Houston
CB-Hudson-Brooks-Motley Brothers
S-Hagen-Hampton-Floyd

Here's my way-too-early shot at a 2-deep

OFFENSE
QB-Rourke,Maxwell,Keszei
RB-Ross,Tuggle/Allison
WR-Cox,Buckner
WR-Odom,Cherry
WR-Knock,Minter/Tupa
TEs-Luehrman,Luehrman
LT-Grimes,Jackson/Irland
LG-Sink,Notestine
C-Kitrell,Hayes
RG-Meservy,Danneker
T-Pleasants,Fernandez/Rogers

DEFENSE
DE-Ogan-Semore,McKnight/Chuckwu
DE-Evans,Conrad/Stai/Miller
NG-Arp,Caesar,Coleman
DT-Baker,Burks/McCracken
WLB-Popp,Brunson,Houston
SLB-Connor,Robinson,Thompson
MLB-Dorsa,Clack,McCrory
CB-Hudson,Drake/Motley
CB-Brooks,Motley
SS-Hagen,Floyd
S-Hampton,Mitchell

Overall: Offensive line won't be quite as good, and receivers may be slightly worse, and running back will be down somewhat, so overall the offense won't be as good. This year they averaged 40.1 points/game and 467 yards. Next year I'm looking for 34 points/game and 430 yards.

On defense, the line will be both good and very deep. The linebackers are the biggest question mark on defense, and the secondary will be very good, and experienced. I think the defense will be more like the defense at the end of the year this year than the one we saw at the beginning. On net, I'm looking for them to be good, but not quite as good as the 2016 defense.

I expect them to start the year with the defense much better than last year, but the offense not as good. I think that as the year progresses, the offense will improve, and by the end of the year the team will be as good as, or slightly better than this year.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/27/2018 6:27:27 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

If start forever is ended..

Wilbon is our only power back. Clanton has good size and speed and Daxon is a freak do yes, I have elevated those guys. We will see what happens in the fall. I also thought that Buckner would earn playing time this year and he did. Let�s talk about where start forever comes from. Javon Hagan started off his freshman all-american year as a third team safety. Irons was fourth string at one time. Nelson got to start all year when number 12 played much better.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/30/2018 5:31:35 PM

allen wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

If start forever is ended..

Hagan started as a 3rd string safety, but as he learned the defense, and adjusted to the college game, he moved up to being a starter. Ouellette started as a 5th string running back, but as he proved himself, moved up to being a starter. There are other Freshmen who have become starters, and I could look them up, if it matters.

Just because a player does not start at the beginning of the season, but ends as a Freshman All-American, that doesn't mean it was wrong to not start him in game 1. All players who come from high school have to adjust to the speed of the college game and it's physicality. All have to learn a new offense or defense. It's reasonable that they need some time to adjust. Some positions have less adjustment, so it's more common to see Freshmen starting at positions like WR, RB or CB than at some other positions.

On my two-deep, I elected not to put any Freshmen at all. I do expect a Freshman or two to find their way into the two-deep, but I don't care to try to guess which ones it will be.

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RE: Early 2019 Projected Starters

Posted: 12/30/2018 6:36:53 PM

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

If start forever is ended..

TE at Ohio is a position I believe it takes time with Dak Notestine for any high school TE to become a starter at Ohio. TEs accounted for 11 receptions this season. Their most important role at Ohio is blocking. It is selfless hard work. Remember the block initially credited to Ouellette that turned out to be Adam Luehrman. More replays of that block than either of the TD receptions by TEs.

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