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Buck.Cat
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  Message Not Read  Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 3:42:33 PM 
and placing 3rd in the MAC East. Gotta love job security.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 4:15:41 PM 
Third...we freaking finished 3rd!
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OhioBobcat
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 5:02:17 PM 
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.
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Bobcat1996
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 5:02:30 PM 
Keep the negative vibes coming! Gotta love those Bobcat fans who continue to bash Ohio. Pony up and give the AD some cash to buy out Frank. I'm sure you can take a collection to help your cause.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 5:07:14 PM 
Would you prefer 4-8 ? 'Cause that's what we had before Frank.

Last Edited: 11/23/2018 5:07:44 PM by CafTud
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OhioBobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 5:29:51 PM 
CatFud wrote:
Would you prefer 4-8 ? 'Cause that's what we had before Frank.


Exactly! As soon as you see complaints about going 8-4, you know immediately how long certain fans have been following Ohio football. There were days not long ago that an 8-4 season seemed a million miles away. Those who know the history of this program and where it has come from can appreciate a good season instead of bashing one.
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BryanHall
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 5:34:06 PM 
Buck.Cat wrote:
and placing 3rd in the MAC East. Gotta love job security.


This post made my day. You know watching them win bothered this guy.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 6:25:45 PM 
Disappointed that Ohio blew it again this year? Yes. They should be in the MACC and should be the MAC champion, no doubt. Ohio was their own worst enemy. Not NIU, not Cinci and not Fiami.

But.......

Proud they overcame bitter disappointment after the crushing Miami loss to DESTROY the probable MACC Buffalo Bulls, proud that they again won twice as many games as they lost, proud that they represented themselves well off the field and received high GPAs as a team in the classroom and proud that they are a credit to Ohio University? HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go BOBCATS!!!!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 6:29:28 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Disappointed that Ohio blew it again this year? Yes. They should be in the MACC and should be the MAC champion, no doubt. Ohio was their own worst enemy. Not NIU, not Cinci and not Fiami.

But.......

Proud they overcame bitter disappointment after the crushing Miami loss to DESTROY the probable MACC Buffalo Bulls, proud that they again won twice as many games as they lost, proud that they represented themselves well off the field and received high GPAs as a team in the classroom and proud that they are a credit to Ohio University? HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go BOBCATS!!!!!


+1.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 7:11:56 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!

I will never say one bad thing about Frank Solich, That man has been a savior for Ohio Bobcat Football !!!

Last Edited: 11/23/2018 7:13:05 PM by Gman
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 7:59:53 PM 
I'm pleased with the job Frank has done and proud of the way the team has played, both this year and in previous seasons. We won 8 games TOTAL in my 4 years in Athens (and I think 3 of those were against Tennessee Tech) so you better believe I'm OK with 8-4. Do I want a MACC? You bet. Do I think one is coming in the next year or so? You bet.
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Bobcat1996
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 8:22:35 PM 
Some fans will find all kinds of reasons to rip Ohio. As many have suggested this Ohio team has been a pleasure to watch and hopefully will earn win # 9 in a bowl. This team isn't perfect and neither is any other team except maybe Bama. Give me Frank any day of the week and I hope he coaches til he is 80. Go Bobcats and bring home win #9 in December!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 8:33:23 PM 
Gman- got a question. When Ohio BB and Jim Christian in 2012-13 finished tied with Akron at 14-2 and the Zips won the tournament title and the Cats didn't get the top seed in the tourney what place did they finish?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 9:10:50 PM 
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 9:44:16 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Gman- got a question. When Ohio BB and Jim Christian in 2012-13 finished tied with Akron at 14-2 and the Zips won the tournament title and the Cats didn't get the top seed in the tourney what place did they finish?


Hey Genius what Seed did Ohio have ? there's ya answer we might of been Co-Champs but we wasn't 1st seed so what we're 2nd
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 9:52:15 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:11:48 PM 
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


Agree with other poster. We tied for 2nd. Why are you bringing up seeding? It's irrelevant. Your logic is flawed. Bad grammar too (there is no ties -- lol).

Last Edited: 11/23/2018 10:12:23 PM by mid70sbobcat
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BryanHall
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:28:42 PM 
FWIW--Alabama finished second in the SEC West last year. The Tide didn't even play for the SEC Championship.

If anyone thinks Fiami had (or even will eventually have) a better year than the Cats this year based on the seeding, they are wrong.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:36:39 PM 
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


I'm not even going to waste any more time trying to explain this to you because you clearly do not get in and cannot understand. It's obviously going right over your head. Do yourself a favor, on Monday, walk into the Ohio Media Relations Office and politely ask the Ohio football contact, Mike Ashcraft, to explain this difficult-to-understand process to you. It will save you from any further embarrassment on here with each post you make about it. You can thank me later.

P.S. - Make sure to bring something along for Mike for the headache you're going to leave him with following your discussion.

Last Edited: 11/23/2018 10:37:50 PM by OhioBobcat
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:39:22 PM 
mid70sbobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


Agree with other poster. We tied for 2nd. Why are you bringing up seeding? It's irrelevant. Your logic is flawed. Bad grammar too (there is no ties -- lol).


Grammar ? its a freaking message board !!!! hahahahahahahaha wow
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:44:52 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


I'm not even going to waste any more time trying to explain this to you because you clearly do not get in and cannot understand. It's obviously going right over your head. Do yourself a favor, on Monday, walk into the Ohio Media Relations Office and politely ask the Ohio football contact, Mike Ashcraft, to explain this difficult-to-understand process to you. It will save you from any further embarrassment on here with each post you make about it. You can thank me later.

P.S. - Make sure to bring something along for Mike for the headache you're going to leave him with following your discussion.


I'm not a bit embarrassed but you can say it slice it anyway you want Ohio ended up 3rd in the MAC East due to Buffalo and Miami finishing ahead of them, So I suggest you call Mike and set up ya own appointment.
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 10:56:09 PM 
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


I'm not even going to waste any more time trying to explain this to you because you clearly do not get in and cannot understand. It's obviously going right over your head. Do yourself a favor, on Monday, walk into the Ohio Media Relations Office and politely ask the Ohio football contact, Mike Ashcraft, to explain this difficult-to-understand process to you. It will save you from any further embarrassment on here with each post you make about it. You can thank me later.

P.S. - Make sure to bring something along for Mike for the headache you're going to leave him with following your discussion.


I'm not a bit embarrassed but you can say it slice it anyway you want Ohio ended up 3rd in the MAC East due to Buffalo and Miami finishing ahead of them, So I suggest you call Mike and set up ya own appointment.


Buffalo finished 7-1, Ohio and Miami finished TIED at 6-2. That means ONE, not two, teams finish in front of Ohio in the standings. Got it??? Further, there is no "seeding" in the conference standings either, so I don't know where that "logic" came from??? It's not applicable here.

Last Edited: 11/23/2018 11:02:16 PM by OhioBobcat
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 11:10:32 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Gman wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


I'm not even going to waste any more time trying to explain this to you because you clearly do not get in and cannot understand. It's obviously going right over your head. Do yourself a favor, on Monday, walk into the Ohio Media Relations Office and politely ask the Ohio football contact, Mike Ashcraft, to explain this difficult-to-understand process to you. It will save you from any further embarrassment on here with each post you make about it. You can thank me later.

P.S. - Make sure to bring something along for Mike for the headache you're going to leave him with following your discussion.


I'm not a bit embarrassed but you can say it slice it anyway you want Ohio ended up 3rd in the MAC East due to Buffalo and Miami finishing ahead of them, So I suggest you call Mike and set up ya own appointment.


Buffalo finished 7-1, Ohio and Miami finished TIED at 6-2. That means ONE, not two, teams finish in front of Ohio in the standings. Got it??? Further, there is no "seeding" in the conference standings either, so I don't know where that "logic" came from??? It not applicable here.


Are you really that stupid ? Buffalo 7-1 Miami 6-2 & Ohio 6-2 Lets say Buffalo would of lost to BG, then Miami would of went to MAC Championship instead of Ohio why ? because even though Ohio & Miami had 6-2 records Miami owned the Tie-Breaker over Ohio both of them 6-2 don't mean squat Just because you have the same record there is other factors that figure in to separate teams and those factors figured in Ohio finishing 3rd in the end.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Congratulations Frank on 8-4
   Posted: 11/23/2018 11:24:29 PM 
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First off, if you're going to complain, at least get the facts straight. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East, not third. Yes Miami beat Ohio and also finished 6-2 in the East, but Ohio and Miami tied for second. When it comes to conference standings, it's simply based off order of finish concerning wins and losses. Tie-breakers do not affect the order in conference standings. Both teams finished tied for second at 6-2, period.


First Off... we did in all reality finish 3RD Place in the MAC East, If you want to say we Tied for 2nd to make it sound better so be but the REALITY of it all is .....we finished 3rd place in the MAC East. End of Story !!!


The "reality?" Do you understand how you just proved yourself wrong with that word and example??? The "REALITY" is that Ohio did indeed finish tied for second. The NCAA, MAC, Ohio, etc all acknowledge that Ohio finished tied for second - because it did, It's a fact. Clearly you do not understand what conference standings mean or how they're determined. Yes, the team which Ohio finished tied with was Miami, which beat Ohio head-to-head, but that doesn't make Miami second and Ohio third, They are BOTH second. Period, End of story. I understand the angle you're taking, but it is incorrect no matter how you try and justify it. Had UB lost today, Ohio would have finished in a three-way tie for first. Miami would have gone to Detroit because a tie-breaker would have been needed to determine who played in the MACC, but all three teams would have STILL been tied for first. Miami would not have finished in front of UB or OU. Understand now??? It's not very difficult to comprehend.


Seed the East right now 1. Buffalo 2. Miami 3. Ohio <<<<< 3rd we ended up 3rd in the East that's why you have all these Tiebreakers when you have the same records, Where I come from if there is 2 teams ahead of you, then you are in 3rd place. There is NO Ties that's why Conference's have Tiebreakers, You are the one that's not getting it !!!


I'm not even going to waste any more time trying to explain this to you because you clearly do not get in and cannot understand. It's obviously going right over your head. Do yourself a favor, on Monday, walk into the Ohio Media Relations Office and politely ask the Ohio football contact, Mike Ashcraft, to explain this difficult-to-understand process to you. It will save you from any further embarrassment on here with each post you make about it. You can thank me later.

P.S. - Make sure to bring something along for Mike for the headache you're going to leave him with following your discussion.


I'm not a bit embarrassed but you can say it slice it anyway you want Ohio ended up 3rd in the MAC East due to Buffalo and Miami finishing ahead of them, So I suggest you call Mike and set up ya own appointment.


Buffalo finished 7-1, Ohio and Miami finished TIED at 6-2. That means ONE, not two, teams finish in front of Ohio in the standings. Got it??? Further, there is no "seeding" in the conference standings either, so I don't know where that "logic" came from??? It not applicable here.


Are you really that stupid ? Buffalo 7-1 Miami 6-2 & Ohio 6-2 Lets say Buffalo would of lost to BG, then Miami would of went to MAC Championship instead of Ohio why ? because even though Ohio & Miami had 6-2 records Miami owned the Tie-Breaker over Ohio both of them 6-2 don't mean squat Just because you have the same record there is other factors that figure in to separate teams and those factors figured in Ohio finishing 3rd in the end.


Nope, no, you're wrong again. Ohio finished tied for second in the MAC East. Period. End of story. It's a FACT and one that can't and won't ever change no matter how you want to look at it or slice it. I understand the point you're trying to make, I honesty do, but it's simply not applicable here whatsoever. UB finished first, OU & MU finished tied for second. I'm honestly done trying to explain it any more because it's useless. Please, PLEASE, just do yourself a huge favor and pay Mike a visit.
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   Posted: 11/23/2018 11:41:07 PM 
Ohio is number 1 in the conference- according to Sagarin. I don’t have much doubt that Ohio is the best team, just not playing like it at times and not playing in the MAC championship game and I guess that’s all that counts. It’s been a fun, but very frustrating year for me.
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