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Topic: TOS to WKU

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Pataskala
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TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/25/2018 9:00:18 PM

Mike Sanford's out.

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OUcats82
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/26/2018 9:54:10 AM

Well that program nose-dived fast after Brohm left!

If you look for it, you could find a post where I claimed to be a little jealous of where their program was 3 or 4 years ago. Not so much now!

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Pataskala
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/27/2018 2:53:22 PM

They might be back. They've rehired their former OC as HC: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/11/27/we... /

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bshot44
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/27/2018 4:56:54 PM

Honest question ...

Would you rather have WKU's program since 2010 or Ohio's?

I find the two programs somewhat similar in the sense that they both reside in a rural town that is roughly an hour or so away from a major city ... both play in somewhat similar mid-major leagues ... both are surrounded by major universities (OSU for Ohio and Uof L/UK/Vandy for WKU)

WKU since 2010

Two conference championships
Two conference player of the year winners (1 Sun Belt, 1 CUSA)
10 players drafted in the NFL ... 11 current players in the NFL
Three bowls wins (3-2 overall in bowls)
Ranked #24 in 2015
11-win season in 2016
12-win season in 2015
P5 wins over Vandy, UK (twice)

And this was a program who was 0-12 in 2009.

In comparison ...

Ohio since 2010

Zero conference titles
Zero conference player of the year winners
7 players drafted in the NFL ... 6 current players in the NFL
Three bowl wins (3-4 overall in bowls)
Ranked #23 in 2012
10-win season in 2012
P5 wins over Penn St, Kansas (twice)

And this program was 9-5 in 2009.

Bcat2
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/27/2018 7:45:14 PM

All this and yet they just fired their coach for 9-16 the past two seasons. Brohm left to Purdue after those two CC. Mike Sanford, who should have been a great hire, former coordinator for Boise and Notre Dame, yet 9-16 and gone after two. Story we have all seen before.

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bshot44
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/27/2018 11:51:35 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

That's my point. WKU has had a really nice run since 2010 ... arguably better than Ohio with a couple conference titles.

I think I'd trade that for a couple down years. You wouldn't?

Oh wait ... let me answer that. No. You wouldn't. You thrive with winning 58% of your games and need nothing more to warm your belly.

I think WKU has built a pretty respectable program where they won't be down that long.

Has Ohio? I'd like to think so ... and we'll find out when Frank hangs it up. (Which, if I'd have to guess we'll hear the last of you when that happens)

Last Edited: 11/27/2018 11:52:20 PM by bshot44

Maddog13
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RE: TOS to WKU

Posted: 11/28/2018 6:52:02 AM

I don't think that you can compare the rich football tradition of WKU with Ohio University, which, up until recently, was primarily a basketball and wrestling school. I think that Solich and Company have actually succeeded in turning Ohio into a football school, but only recently. Therefore, we lack the depth of support from outside that WKU has had over the years.

People forget that WKU's program was almost disbanded in the early nineties, but that a lot of Alunmi, including the legendary Jimmy Feix, rallied to help build financial support for the program in order to help save it. This was while Jack Harbaugh was coach, and his sons, Jim, while playing in the NFL, and John, while coaching Cincinnati, helped their father recruit some big time players such as Willie Taggart and numerous others.

With some patience, this program may end up cashing in on it's recent success with the hiring of the likes of future Offensive Coordinator, Joe Burrow, and future Defensive Coordinator, Mike Mitchell. The program might also benefit from the Nebraska pipeline and even the pipeline of the beast known as LSU to end up landing the likes of, say, some of Scott Frost's coaching staff and even Ed Orgeron and company should he or the administration down at LSU grow tired of all of the fan pressure down there in Louisiana. After all, we are connected by a series of rivers, you know.

The last paragraph is all pie in the sky, of course; but, hopefully, makes the point that Ohio is just beginning to build a potential pipeline of support into Southeastern Ohio that will pay dividends for years to come.

The other point that I would like to make too is that Ohio High School players are recruited by teams all over the nation not to mention Ohio State and Michigan to the North, Notre Dame and Cincinnati to the West, WVU and Marshall to the South, and Pittsburgh and Penn State to the East. Not the same as being in the midst of what has traditionally been basketball schools.

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