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So: First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron. Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent. Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated. Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ. That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 12:11:02 AM  Pataskala wrote: According to the guys doing the NIU-Fiami game, if there's a three-way they look at head-to-heads against the rest of the division in order. So: First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron. Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent. Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated. Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ. That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two. Funny thing is, the announcing clowns for the Ohio/UB game kept saying the MAC East was down to these two teams and if UB lost two and Ohio won two, they were MAC champs. Even put up a graphic as the game ended spelling it out. It amazes me how ill-informed these guys are when they call MAC games. Almost like they just walked in off the street to call the game and did ZERO prep work. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 8:43:22 AM  bshot44 wrote: Pataskala wrote: According to the guys doing the NIU-Fiami game, if there's a three-way they look at head-to-heads against the rest of the division in order. So: First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron. Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent. Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated. Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ. That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two. Funny thing is, the announcing clowns for the Ohio/UB game kept saying the MAC East was down to these two teams and if UB lost two and Ohio won two, they were MAC champs. Even put up a graphic as the game ended spelling it out. It amazes me how ill-informed these guys are when they call MAC games. Almost like they just walked in off the street to call the game and did ZERO prep work. We're just cannon fodder for these games before the SEC premier game or god forbid another O$U game Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,604 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 8:56:48 AM  Or they just assumed Miami would lose. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,104 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 9:16:14 AM  So if Miami wins Tuesday night, as far as we're concerned, the regalar season is over and the Akron game means nothing in terms of a conference championship game. Miami has a bowl game to play for so they'll be plenty fired upped at home. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,339 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 9:53:23 AM  Alan Swank wrote: So if Miami wins Tuesday night, as far as we're concerned, the regalar season is over and the Akron game means nothing in terms of a conference championship game. Miami has a bowl game to play for so they'll be plenty fired upped at home. That's pretty much it. We lose any tie with Fiami. And here's another suppose: Suppose Fiami wins the East. They'd be 6-6 overall. If they then lose the MACCG, they could go to a bowl game with a 6-7 record. Might not happens; it depends on whether both teams that play in a conference championship game are allowed to go. I know conference champs are allowed to go to a bowl regardless of their record. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,800 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 10:17:05 AM  Miami has to root for Ohio to win because if Miami wins, Ohio loses and Buffalo loses, Buffalo goes to the championship game in a two-team tiebreaker. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,351 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 10:30:11 AM  Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules? Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 10:37:50 AM  OU_Country wrote: Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules? Three-way goes to best divisional record Ohio 4-1 Miami 4-1 UB 3-2 (eliminated) Then it's head to head for the final two Miami 30 Ohio 28 Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 10:41:23 AM  https://static.gomacsports.com/custompages/FactBooks/Tie-... "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,351 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 10:58:31 AM  bobcat695 wrote: https://static.gomacsports.com/custompages/FactBooks/Tie-... Thanks bobcat695! Stealing the excerpt from this: When more than two teams are tied, that ranking, based on wins and losses against each other, qualifies the needed teams. If that win/loss ranking can’t be determined, and in the case of two tied teams, procedures #1 thru #4 are used to qualify a team or teams. The remaining teams revert back to the criteria in rank order. 1. Head-to-head results between and among the tied teams in traditional season conference contests. 2. Tied teams’ traditional season won-loss records versus conference teams starting with #1, then #2, etc --------------------------------------- Where I'm confused is - who are the teams we're comparing records against in item 2? The rest of the MAC East, or the whole of the MAC? Obviously, that's the only way Ohio gets in at this point. Last Edited: 11/15/2018 11:00:57 AM by OU_Country Back to Top Gman General User Member Since: 5/16/2018 Post Count: 153 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 11:20:36 AM  You guys actually think BG is gonna beat Buffalo ? if so....I have some swamp land in Florida for sale, AS usual Albin was on point against Fiami no show in 1st half, There is no pressure on Albin now to win with Ohio 2 games back sure we beat Buffalo and we will beat Akron next week and at the end of the year we will be left scratching our heads just like the previous 13 years under Albin's play calling. When the chips are down he's a no show, its been proven for 14 years now. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,351 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 11:24:31 AM  Gman wrote: You guys actually think BG is gonna beat Buffalo ? if so....I have some swamp land in Florida for sale, AS usual Albin was on point against Fiami no show in 1st half, There is no pressure on Albin now to win with Ohio 2 games back sure we beat Buffalo and we will beat Akron next week and at the end of the year we will be left scratching our heads just like the previous 13 years under Albin's play calling. When the chips are down he's a no show, its been proven for 14 years now. I don't think there's any chance in hell. :) I just wanted to understand how the tiebreaker's work. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,339 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 11:26:29 AM  bshot44 wrote: OU_Country wrote: Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules? Three-way goes to best divisional record Ohio 4-1 Miami 4-1 UB 3-2 (eliminated) Then it's head to head for the final two Miami 30 Ohio 28 Any way you slice it, if we tie with Fiami we're screwed. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,604 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 12:16:33 PM  Pataskala wrote: bshot44 wrote: OU_Country wrote: Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules? Three-way goes to best divisional record Ohio 4-1 Miami 4-1 UB 3-2 (eliminated) Then it's head to head for the final two Miami 30 Ohio 28 Any way you slice it, if we tie with Fiami we're screwed. Correct, we are eliminated if Miami wins Tuesday Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,690 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 12:17:56 PM  And if my aunt had balls,she'd be my uncle! Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,997 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 12:36:51 PM  I'd say we should root for wonky weather next Friday in order for Bowling Green to have any shot against UB, but UB plays in Buffalo, so I don't think they'd be fazed. And I'm looking out at a giant tree in my back yard completely downed just inches from my back window, so screw any more bad weather. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,351 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 1:16:35 PM  giacomo wrote: And if my aunt had balls,she'd be my uncle! I was once told as a kid "Balls, balls, said the Queen, if I had two more, I'd be King." Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 2:52:48 PM  Brian Smith wrote: I'd say we should root for wonky weather next Friday in order for Bowling Green to have any shot against UB, but UB plays in Buffalo, so I don't think they'd be fazed. And I'm looking out at a giant tree in my back yard completely downed just inches from my back window, so screw any more bad weather. My guess is that the only weather that could help us on Friday would be a meteor shower hitting Oxford, OH. Then, we'd still need Buffalo to lose. So, maybe two meteor showers on Friday is our wish. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,471 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/15/2018 4:04:31 PM  We'll know by the time we wake up on Wednesday morning whether or not the outcome of Buffalo/BG matters to us. I don't think its hopeless for Ball State by any means (they will have 8 days of rest to Miami's 6, its a road game but not a long trip by any means), but I'm curious to see what sort of line Buffalo gets against BG. In any case, I don't see BG beating Buffalo for us (prove me wrong Carl!!!) Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,366 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/16/2018 11:38:41 AM  Well, this time of year BG can have some darn awful weather with swirling winds throwing around snow, sleet and hale. The two worst games I can remember in terms of weather were one at Kent earlier in this century and a game at BG in 1968. My wife says still says she's never, ever been as cold as she was at that game -- won by OHIO. We can hope for a repeat next week! It would give us hope! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,339 Status: Offline     RE: The tiebreaker    Posted: 11/16/2018 11:48:15 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Well, this time of year BG can have some darn awful weather with swirling winds throwing around snow, sleet and hale. The two worst games I can remember in terms of weather were one at Kent earlier in this century and a game at BG in 1968. My wife says still says she's never, ever been as cold as she was at that game -- won by OHIO. We can hope for a repeat next week! It would give us hope! Unfortunately, Channel 10 calls for partly cloudy and 53 for next Friday. Could be different at BG but I doubt it. I hope BG wins at Akron tomorrow. Two in a row could give them some momentum going into their senior day. BSU's only road win so far this season was a one-pointer at CMU. Doesn't bode well. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. 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