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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 3:40:04 PM 
Check this out from PFF. Rourke is #1 among FBS QBs against the pressure in the pocket, and it's not even close: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZwQpUXgAEdhmA.jpg
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 4:11:42 PM 
Very interesting stat.






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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 4:15:42 PM 
Pretty impressive stuff.

Another reason why I said I wanted to see the ball in Rourke's hands more. I got blasted for that.

But the last few games, Rourke's production has skyrocketed ... and he's been given the keys the car.

I think Ohio wins tonight if Albin doesn't go conservative. I'm not saying be reckless ... but unsuccessfully pounding AJ/Irons UTM because "that's what Frank Solich teams do" isn't what makes this team successful.

Let Rourke do what he's been doing ... RPOs ... rollouts ... throwing the ball.

Let your best player be your best player.

Albin shut it down vs. Akron last year after jumping out 21-10

Ohio possessions after 21-10 lead

• 3-and-out (three runs for 0 yards)
• Fumbled Kickoff
• 11-play, 74-yard drive for FG ... because Ohio couldn't score from 1-yard line and kicked a 19-yard FG
• 3-and-out (couldn't covert 3rd & 2 ... AJ UTM)
• 7 play drive that stalled at Akron 42 yard line because of half
• 3-and-out to start the 2nd half
• FG ... but nearly a 3-and-out ... bailed out by Akron pass interference
• 3-and-out
• 3-and-interception
• FINALLY, AN 11-PLAY, 71 YD TD DRIVE after Akron outscored Ohio 27-6 for 2.5 quarters
• 4 plays, turnover on downs at midfield

Akron runs out the clock. Sound familiar (a little like the UC game this year??)

So in total ...

Ohio has 11 possessions
5 Three-and-outs
1 TD, 2 FGs
1 turnover
1 end of the half
1 turnover on downs

Ohio started the game with TDs in 3 of their first 4 possessions ... the only one that didn't end in a TD was because of an INT inside Akron territory.

Ohio was in a position to blow that game wide open ... and nearly did up 21-10.

I'd love to see them not take their foot off the pedal tonight and revert to their "run it up the middle on 1st down" every drive.

On the 7 non-successful Ohio drives ... here are your first down plays

• Rourke -3 yard run
• Ouellette 8 yard gain
• Rourke 11 yard run
• Rourke pass (pass interference on Akron) ... next play ... Rourke 1 yd loss on 1st down
• Rourke incompletion
• Rourke incompletion (pass interference on Akron ... next play ... AJ 3 yd gain
• AJ 1 yd gain

4 runs ... 3 passes (2/3 had bailout interference calls only to be followed up by runs)

Albin got predictable and Akron took advantage.

On the 7 scoring drives

• Rourke 8 yard run
• AJ 4 yard run
• Brown run (from Akron 5 yard line after blocked punt)
• Rourke 27 yard pass
• Rourke 19 yard pass
• Rourke 6 yard pass

3 pass, 3 runs (one because they started the drive from 5-yard line)

Anyhow ... a little less conservative.

When Albin goes conservative, Ohio does not win.

I'm hoping on the road, with a lot on the line ... that Ohio lets it loose.

BUT ... I will say this. If Ohio finds success running the ball, then it doesn't take a genius to understand they should keep pounding down Miami's throat.

My point is .... if the running game is picking up 1-3 yards per carry ... let Rourke open it up.

This was their downfall vs NIU when they just kept running into a brick wall.

Ohio's offense could do little wrong vs. Ball, BG and WMU ... let's hope that success continues tonight at Miami. But if they run into any adversity .... keep your fingers crossed Albin doesn't go into a shell.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 4:25:34 PM 
I think you'd find a similar stat line in the Cincinnati game after the lead.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 4:40:53 PM 
Question is, have Solich and Albin learned from the Akron, and especially the Cinci games? If the scores of the last 3 games are any indication, then the answer's a great big yes.

But the point is well taken-DO NOT GET CONSERVATIVE ON OFFENSE!!!!

Last Edited: 11/7/2018 4:41:36 PM by Mark Lembright '85

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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 4:48:08 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Question is, have Solich and Albin learned from the Akron, and especially the Cinci games? If the scores of the last 3 games are any indication, then the answer's a great big yes.

But the point is well taken-DO NOT GET CONSERVATIVE ON OFFENSE!!!!


The biggest answer is don't turn the ball over. That aside, Akron game-planned us very well last year. They felt they could cover us man to man and otherwise sold out to stop the run. They made life very difficult for us for long stretches of that game. We also had some major defensive gaffes that cost us and that frosh qb had the game of his life.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 5:06:39 PM 
finnOhio wrote:
Check this out from PFF. Rourke is #1 among FBS QBs against the pressure in the pocket, and it's not even close: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZwQpUXgAEdhmA.jpg


Just out of curiosity, who is behind this PFF website and what are his/her/their qualifications to evaluate QB performance?

And what does the acronym "PFF" stand for?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 6:57:51 PM 
Pro Football Focus. They analyze and grade every play of every game in college and NFL. It's become a pretty big company. A story from 2015 says about half the NFL teams are clients that use the company's services so I think it has a good reputation though some have criticized the methods.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 7:02:19 PM 
Jeff Johnson wrote:
finnOhio wrote:
Check this out from PFF. Rourke is #1 among FBS QBs against the pressure in the pocket, and it's not even close: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZwQpUXgAEdhmA.jpg


Just out of curiosity, who is behind this PFF website and what are his/her/their qualifications to evaluate QB performance?

And what does the acronym "PFF" stand for?


Fair question. Stands for pro football focus. They're a football data service, and I think a pretty highly regarded one since their clients include 40+ FBS teams.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/team-services
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 9:59:59 PM 
finnOhio wrote:
Check this out from PFF. Rourke is #1 among FBS QBs against the pressure in the pocket, and it's not even close: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrZwQpUXgAEdhmA.jpg


Not so much tonight.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 10:26:45 PM 
Pro football focus is very highly regarded, they rate all college and pro players. NFL scouts use PFf


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 10:46:14 PM 
we had no idea what Miami was doing on defense. to the point that missing a few wide receivers made everything go south. just like the field goal when it counts, who gives a rats ass about 160 points in the last three games if you can't get shit when it actually means something?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/7/2018 11:09:48 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
we had no idea what Miami was doing on defense. to the point that missing a few wide receivers made everything go south. just like the field goal when it counts, who gives a rats ass about 160 points in the last three games if you can't get shit when it actually means something?


That was as poor of an offensive performance as I can remember in a big game.

Other than Ouellette, what did this offense do?

The way Albin called the game, he took the running game almost totally off the table.

Can't run when you're down 21 points.

How can you go 12 runs and then 7 straight passes while Miami builds a 21-point lead

Just absurd decision making yet again.

Rourke did NOT handle the pressure well tonight. Pressure from Miami ... pressure with the importance of this game. All of it seemed too much.

He's got a TON of talent ... but this is two years ago he's fallen kind of flat in a huge game (Akron in 2017 and tonight vs. Miami). Didn't see that coming. Albin didn't do him any favors adjusting his play-calling and putting them in position to succeed ... but is that a surprise to anyone?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/8/2018 12:09:00 AM 
I was concerned as soon as Miami answered our TD in the first and stopped us on our second series. Cuchita was like its only 7-7 but Miami seemed like it was always making the plays it had to. In hindsight Maxwell should have been inserted with the idea of throwing downfield to spread out Miami's secondary. One or two big plays in the first half and could have put a few more points on the board.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/8/2018 11:32:19 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
I was concerned as soon as Miami answered our TD in the first and stopped us on our second series.


Russ and Rob, who I was listening to because Rocky Boiman's commentary kills brain cells permanently, really had a great feel for this one early. They called that Ohio was in trouble really early in the first quarter when I thought they were overreacting. Shows how traveling with the team and seeing every snap gives you a feel for those things.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/8/2018 11:52:22 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
we had no idea what Miami was doing on defense. to the point that missing a few wide receivers made everything go south. just like the field goal when it counts, who gives a rats ass about 160 points in the last three games if you can't get shit when it actually means something?


That was as poor of an offensive performance as I can remember in a big game.

Other than Ouellette, what did this offense do?

The way Albin called the game, he took the running game almost totally off the table.

Can't run when you're down 21 points.

How can you go 12 runs and then 7 straight passes while Miami builds a 21-point lead

Just absurd decision making yet again.

Rourke did NOT handle the pressure well tonight. Pressure from Miami ... pressure with the importance of this game. All of it seemed too much.

He's got a TON of talent ... but this is two years ago he's fallen kind of flat in a huge game (Akron in 2017 and tonight vs. Miami). Didn't see that coming. Albin didn't do him any favors adjusting his play-calling and putting them in position to succeed ... but is that a surprise to anyone?


It ended up being a moot point because Ohio scored the very next play, but down 9 with under 3 minutes left, we hand the ball off on a run up the middle. And then they wasted 21 more seconds to get the next play off. That 21 seconds sure would have been nice on the final drive right? It's like they don't think about it until it's too late.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/8/2018 4:37:37 PM 
I have said all year that our clock management SUCKS.

The other big thing I notice is we rarely have wide receivers who create separation. We are almost always closely guarded but we dooften times make some great catches. On the other hand, our opponents seem to have little trouble separating from our DBs and Ss. What do you think the reasoning is?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rourke vs. the pressure
   Posted: 11/9/2018 12:10:04 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
we had no idea what Miami was doing on defense. to the point that missing a few wide receivers made everything go south. just like the field goal when it counts, who gives a rats ass about 160 points in the last three games if you can't get shit when it actually means something?


That was as poor of an offensive performance as I can remember in a big game.

Other than Ouellette, what did this offense do?

The way Albin called the game, he took the running game almost totally off the table.

Can't run when you're down 21 points.

How can you go 12 runs and then 7 straight passes while Miami builds a 21-point lead

Just absurd decision making yet again.

Rourke did NOT handle the pressure well tonight. Pressure from Miami ... pressure with the importance of this game. All of it seemed too much.

He's got a TON of talent ... but this is two years ago he's fallen kind of flat in a huge game (Akron in 2017 and tonight vs. Miami). Didn't see that coming. Albin didn't do him any favors adjusting his play-calling and putting them in position to succeed ... but is that a surprise to anyone?


It ended up being a moot point because Ohio scored the very next play, but down 9 with under 3 minutes left, we hand the ball off on a run up the middle. And then they wasted 21 more seconds to get the next play off. That 21 seconds sure would have been nice on the final drive right? It's like they don't think about it until it's too late.




The majority of Ohio's offensive play calls came late in the play clock. They waste so much time waiting on plays to come in. That's on coaching. No urgency down 21 or 14 or 9 knowing time was precious
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