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Topic: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Topic: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

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Ted Thompson
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PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 8:50:18 AM

After 8 weeks – these are the best quarterbacks in terms of handling pressure pic.twitter.com/EI36VYtuFW
— PFF College (@PFF_College) October 23, 2018

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 9:59:04 AM

Pretty awesome. It shows on the field. Last year we couldn't buy a third down conversion, it's been a big improvement this season.

I was at the homecoming game, great day, luckily beautiful weather, more than 30 first downs and lots of 'cats in the end zone!

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 11:24:36 AM

I'd love to see an in-depth feature just talking to him about how his pocket presence developed and what he sees when he's being pressured. He has perfect instincts under pressure.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 12:34:24 PM

Interesting!

I've never looked into this rating in-depth, but I'd imagine sensing pressure/avoiding sacks/pocket awareness would be a crucial factor in forecasting how a QB would translate to the NFL.

I'm curious what PFF is doing, if anything, to isolate how much of this statistic the QB (Rourke for example) is responsible for as opposed to it being the way the scheme is designed with back picking up blocks, or timing of routes/line performance. (All the variables at play help illustrate why football analytics with on-field data are a completely different animal than sabermetrics)

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 1:44:14 PM

Just wished his ball control decision making was a bit stronger vs UC & NIU.

This guy is a star in the MAC. Wish Albin would let him loose a little more.

Don't have feeling he'll disappear into a shell at the end of his career at Ohio like Tettleton did

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 2:13:05 PM

bshot44 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AEj3LA2vSo

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 3:42:19 PM

Pretty nice list of names to be associated with!

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 4:25:29 PM

bshot44 wrote:

Since he makes so many plays or tries to make plays, I think we're going to have to live with some turnovers because of it.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 5:54:13 PM

bshot44 wrote:

Wish his decision making was better......Wish Albin would turn him loose? Ever think that he’s not yet ready to be turned loose? Against better defenses he has struggled, ball security and decision making is a progression, maybe there is a reason the young man has not been turned loose? He’s gotten better and better, but the proof will be against better teams, not bad teams.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 6:00:52 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AEj3LA2vSo

I've missed you. When you going to go nuts again & get suspended? Don't want to miss that

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/24/2018 6:07:36 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

I think we're having a communication gap in what "turning him loose"

I'd like to see him have more opportunity to throw the ball more.

Only 20, 23 & 12 attempts in MAC play. He's 41-55 in MAC play ... super efficient.

I know competition isn't the best ...

But you don't think had Ohio maybe went a little more pass heavy vs NIU it would've opened up run a little?

Albin gets stuck in his ways and rarely deviates from his stubbornness to run the ball, even when it's not working.

Some more roll outs ... options ... etc would be nice.

Rourke is a special weapon and sometimes it seems Albin keeps a governor on him.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 8:12:00 AM

bshot44 wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AEj3LA2vSo

I've missed you. When you going to go nuts again & get suspended? Don't want to miss that

Starkly demonstrating that you have no clue.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 9:52:56 AM

bshot44 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Of course coach Albin is the goat here. Currently Ohio is averaging 7.0 yards per play, best in the MAC. Of coarse, even at 7.0 per play, things should be better, would be better were bshott44 in charge.

Last Edited: 10/25/2018 11:34:19 AM by Bcat2

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 12:03:40 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Do not give Bshott all the credit, he's one of a growing number that can do nothing but complain about the offense. As I said a couple weeks ago, this may be the most prolific offense in school history and all people could do was throw dirt on that comment.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 1:58:53 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

After Ohio rushes for 392 in a 49-14 win we hear, "pass more." Guess 49-14 ain't good enough. Well, under coach Solich, games are controlled first by running the ball and when under control, ended in as few plays as possible. Simple.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 3:32:23 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Yep. Nothing should be better. 4-3 is just perfect! You never cease to amaze in your ability to be so incredibly short-sighted ... not to mention your refusal to allow any criticism.

Is Ohio averaging 7.0 yards per play ... yep. No argument here.

Was Ohio's offense able to get one-inch to beat UC ... nope. Were they able to score one second half touchdown to seal a win at UC ....nope.

Were they able to score once in the 4th quarter to seal a win at NIU ... nope.

Is Ohio 91st in the country in 4th quarter points at 5.3 points per game ... yep.

Is Ohio #115 in giveaways at 2.2 per game ... yep. 2nd worst in the MAC.

Certainly, there are no flaws in Tim Albin's offense. Absolutely none! How dare anyone say otherwise!!!

Bcat2 wrote:

Is Ohio #113 in pass play percentage ... yep.

Is Ohio #116 in pass plays per game ... yep.

Is Ohio #6 in average team passer rating ... yep.

Hmmmm? Maybe there's some correlation there? Ohio chooses to continually run the ball unsuccessfully in the 4th quarter and fail to seal two games rather than lean on a very efficient pass offense? No! Keep running our backs UTM when the defense knows it's coming. Let's keep playing football in the dark ages and refuse to evolve in play-calling when the game is on the line.

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Yep ... offense is putting up great numbers. And it could lead to a fantastic 7-5 season! But who cares, right! Most prolific offense in school history!!!! WOOOOO!!!! Raise the banner!!!

You guys are so close minded when it comes to anyone questioning the decisions of this coaching staff or program.

You'd happily sit on your porches sipping lemonade for the rest of your life with HUGE smiles on your faces watching Frank Solich coach this program to 7-5 (5-3) seasons from now until eternity.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 3:35:01 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AEj3LA2vSo

I've missed you. When you going to go nuts again & get suspended? Don't want to miss that

Starkly demonstrating that you have no clue.

And obviously, you have all the clues. If only we could be so lucky.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/25/2018 11:50:02 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

+1

And today with a 52-14 win over a decent BSU team that only lost to Norte Dame 24-16 it’s still clear that Frank was satisfied with these early season losses and has made no adjustments in the offense or game strategy. It certinaly not plausible or even within the realm of possibitiy that this team might be jelling and putting things together on both sides of the ball. No reasonable person would ever come to that conclusion. No, it’s clear that we suck and that we have the most predictable coaching staff in all FBS football.

(Note: None of the above is meant to say that I wasn’t personally very disappointed in our UC and NIU losses. However, in my miind that’s now water over the dam.)

Go OHIO!

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 12:30:38 AM

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BillyTheCat wrote:

Why does everything have to be extremes on here. I don't think anyone is saying "We suck" ... but it's obvious there is room for improvement.

The Ball win was nice. Good blue collar, do what's working win. Not a lot to overthink. They couldn't stop run ... so they jammed it down their throat.

It's the situations when the game is on the line where it'd be nice to see some improvement.

For every Kent last minute win ... there's a UC & NIU.

I don't get feeling anyone is saying "we suck" ... but at 5-3, we're not exactly the 1972 Dolphins.

There's a medium in there that most just ignore and race to extremes

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 7:15:48 AM

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We can dedicate the first quarter to those calling for Albin to turn #12 loose. I guess Albin was trying to raise those horrible pass play percentage and pass play per game rankings. Sure glad he woke up and fell back on his seniors; 65, 63, 57, 83, 21 & 45. Why should anyone, who understands the makeup of this team, give a rip about pass play percentage or pass plays per game?

Last Edited: 10/26/2018 7:54:36 AM by Bcat2

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 8:48:10 AM

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OhioCatFan wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

Maybe because 65, 64, 57, 83, 21 & 45 couldn't get one-inch when it counted?

Hmmm ... maybe coming out throwing the ball early opened up spots to run vs. Ball? Never! Why would anyone think that!

Jeez ... you are amazing.

Why is it when I make a comment praising Rourke and saying that I'd like to see him get more opportunity with the ball in his hands when the game is on the line you turn into a anti-Albin rant and "Ohio sucks"

Go back and re read my original comment.

bshot44 wrote:

It was compliment on Rourke. I think he's our best weapon and I'd like to see the ball in his hands more. Didn't say one word about run v pass! You guys turned it into that.

I know you miss Monroe and I'm the closest thing to upset you like he did.

But you're just looking to argue.

Last night, any moron could see that Ball could NOT stop the run. So it's obvious ... keep running.

But against NIU when Ohio could not run ... they kept running same plays that did not work. No adjustment. Would have been nice to give Rourke some rope there earlier in 4th quarter and see if he could make it happen.

Every game is different. Not same stuff works. Ohio is not very good at adapting to that sometimes. NIU & UC are two examples.

But let me stop you there before you type it.

bcat2 wrote:

You choose to carry around that baggage. Sorry they couldn't give you what you demand. I choose to say we have scoreboard on BG x 3, Kent x 5 & Ball x 2.

Last Edited: 10/26/2018 8:50:29 AM by bshot44

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 9:36:34 AM

bshot44: I actually agree with your general premise about Rourke. I think where we differ is that I think we have made great strides so far this season and that we are seeing great improvements in recent games. Admittedly BG was not much of a test but Ball State is a decent team. I watched much of their game against Notre Dame and the Irish OL was not opening up the kinds of holes that we were last night. Some of those hole were big enough and open long enough that Casper, Colorado or I could have run through them.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 11:36:58 AM

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Your earlier point about NIU and Cinn being water over the dam is lost on bshott44. I just visited Bronco Stampede where they have their own, what they call, their, "woe is me" crowd. This group, after six straight wins and then a loss to Toledo are saying their coach is in over his head and will not make the necessary firings of assistants. Shame after the last two games players families who come hear will read the dailly, "they could not get even 1 yard when it mattered." Amazing how some can reduce an entire game to one play.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 11:50:01 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

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It's a message board ... not a pep rally. Get over it.

And it's amazing how some people (you) can just ignore how one play was the difference in winning & losing. Isn't the goal to win every game ... not just try hard?

If that was MACC game and Ohio couldn't punch it in from one-inch line in final minute, I should just ignore it because we led by 21 at one point?

Yea! Moral victories!

I'm sure that play still eats at the team & staff ... but not you. So yeah ... I think most would classify Cincinnati loss (and NIU) as a disappointment. Those are both games Ohio should've won. Instead of being 7-1 and the MAC frontrunner ... they're 5-3 and have zero room for slipping up to probably win MAC East.

And who is "woe is me-ing" here? You are fabricating a positive comment about Rourke and me wanting to see the ball in his hands more as an anti-Ohio stance. You're ridiculous.

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RE: PFF says Rourke is best QB in nation at handling pressure

Posted: 10/26/2018 11:52:20 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Amen. I think you're right. Offense has clicked last two weeks for sure. They did what they should've vs inferior opponents ... dominated them. I just hope that same success follows them to Kalamazoo & Oxford ... two places they've not experienced great success.

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