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Topic:  OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat

Topic:  OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
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allen
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  Message Not Read  OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/10/2018 2:59:49 PM 
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.

Last Edited: 10/10/2018 3:04:09 PM by allen

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OhioStunter
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C.
   Posted: 10/10/2018 3:11:23 PM 
Hey, look. We're all Bobcats. We all love OU or we wouldn't be here.

And we have different views on the teams -- as well as other issues. That's OK.

I think under cover of anonymity for some, it can be easy to type things that may cross the line. Sometimes you may not intend for them to cross the line, but someone may interpret it a different way.

Even though I'm anonymous, I still participate under the premise of "if my name was actually revealed, would I be embarrassed?" or "if I was sitting at the Pub next to this person, would I say the same thing to them directly?"

I think most people here approach BobcatAttack this way. And I think the mods do a great job of nipping those that don't in the bud.

Also, let's not confuse differing opinions on things as such a negative.

This board is unique because there are some very smart people here with different experiences. I enjoy the discussions. I enjoy thinking about things differently. And I enjoy being around other Bobcats that have some same shared interests in sports.

Last Edited: 10/10/2018 3:12:55 PM by OhioStunter
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bshot44
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C.
   Posted: 10/10/2018 3:28:52 PM 
OhioStunter wrote:
Hey, look. We're all Bobcats. We all love OU or we wouldn't be here.

And we have different views on the teams -- as well as other issues. That's OK.

I think under cover of anonymity for some, it can be easy to type things that may cross the line. Sometimes you may not intend for them to cross the line, but someone may interpret it a different way.

Even though I'm anonymous, I still participate under the premise of "if my name was actually revealed, would I be embarrassed?" or "if I was sitting at the Pub next to this person, would I say the same thing to them directly?"

I think most people here approach BobcatAttack this way. And I think the mods do a great job of nipping those that don't in the bud.

Also, let's not confuse differing opinions on things as such a negative.

This board is unique because there are some very smart people here with different experiences. I enjoy the discussions. I enjoy thinking about things differently. And I enjoy being around other Bobcats that have some same shared interests in sports.


Well said and 100% true.
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Sam bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C.
   Posted: 10/10/2018 6:15:57 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
OhioStunter wrote:
Hey, look. We're all Bobcats. We all love OU or we wouldn't be here.

And we have different views on the teams -- as well as other issues. That's OK.

I think under cover of anonymity for some, it can be easy to type things that may cross the line. Sometimes you may not intend for them to cross the line, but someone may interpret it a different way.

Even though I'm anonymous, I still participate under the premise of "if my name was actually revealed, would I be embarrassed?" or "if I was sitting at the Pub next to this person, would I say the same thing to them directly?"

I think most people here approach BobcatAttack this way. And I think the mods do a great job of nipping those that don't in the bud.

Also, let's not confuse differing opinions on things as such a negative.

This board is unique because there are some very smart people here with different experiences. I enjoy the discussions. I enjoy thinking about things differently. And I enjoy being around other Bobcats that have some same shared interests in sports.


Well said and 100% true.


Me too. Kumbayha Bobcats.
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Mike Johnson
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C.
   Posted: 10/10/2018 7:56:46 PM 
One of this old man's long-held beliefs: Discussion, debate and disagreement generally prove beneficial. Not necessarily heartwarming but beneficial.

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TWT
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C.
   Posted: 10/10/2018 7:58:32 PM 
I'm a proponent of the tactical pitchfork. I like to wait until the futility crosses a red line before I go nuclear on the coaches. I have to admit I wasn't the least bit happy with the floundering performance vs. Howard after sky high preseason expectations. Cuchita could attest I called the performance was "disgusting". But as of right now I'll wait on pulling the old pitchfork out of the shed sitting 3-2 overall and 1-0 in MAC play.

Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended
2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round
2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl
2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086

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Mark Lembright '85
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/10/2018 8:24:40 PM 
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


I hope all 3 come back, and come back soon as I’m always interested in what they have to say.

We’ve mentioned it before, but it’s pretty clear, to me at least anyway, that posters on this board have become more vitriolic and combative over the years, and I justt don’t understand why. We’re all alums, or at least friends of Ohio University, which automatically makes everyone friends to me. I especially don’t understand why OCF has been attacked repeatedly. I’ve never met the man but he seems very nice. If I were him, I really wouldn’t bother coming back. What would be the point?

Anyway, I apologize for the soapbox; I totally understand why those 3 left. I get it.

Edit: just read the Where are the True Bobcat Fans thread. Wow that sure escalated quickly! I hope L.C. comes back and soon. I sure see no malice on his part in his mistaken post about Mr. Horsley. Yikes.

Last Edited: 10/10/2018 8:47:50 PM by Mark Lembright '85
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bshot44
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/10/2018 10:24:30 PM 
My guess is there are a lot people on this board that are more sensitive to the program than others ... yet they don't divulge why. (Which is fine. I respect anonymity)

I'm guessing they're either coaches family or parents of players.

Therefore when people are critical, they take it personally. They feel like their loved ones are being attacked and their claws come out.

Understandable. But you have to know when you enter into a message board, it's not always roses and rainbows. And to expect otherwise is silly.

Most of the vitriol comes from people attacking those that are critical. Calling them whiners or crybabies. They just can't accept any critique of those they're close too.

I know if I were a parent or wife and people were critical of my kid/husband, it would be tough to read.

But I'd also totally understand that that is the norm on a message board. Caution when entering.

Trying to turn this message board into a full blown pep rally where it's nothing but praise and adulation is a pipe dream.

If the critique were coming from the mainstream media, I could see a reason for for the anger.

But this is a message board ... and this one is tame compared to most big time programs.

You have to have a thick skin if you're entering here as a proud papa. Can't take everything personal ... and starting arguments because someone is critical of your kid is wasted energy.
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Sam bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 7:59:51 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
My guess is there are a lot people on this board that are more sensitive to the program than others ... yet they don't divulge why. (Which is fine. I respect anonymity)

I'm guessing they're either coaches family or parents of players.

Therefore when people are critical, they take it personally. They feel like their loved ones are being attacked and their claws come out.

Understandable. But you have to know when you enter into a message board, it's not always roses and rainbows. And to expect otherwise is silly.

Most of the vitriol comes from people attacking those that are critical. Calling them whiners or crybabies. They just can't accept any critique of those they're close too.

I know if I were a parent or wife and people were critical of my kid/husband, it would be tough to read.

But I'd also totally understand that that is the norm on a message board. Caution when entering.

Trying to turn this message board into a full blown pep rally where it's nothing but praise and adulation is a pipe dream.

If the critique were coming from the mainstream media, I could see a reason for for the anger.

But this is a message board ... and this one is tame compared to most big time programs.

You have to have a thick skin if you're entering here as a proud papa. Can't take everything personal ... and starting arguments because someone is critical of your kid is wasted energy.


Lol, omg. I’m sorry for “attacking you” by calling you a whiner and crybaby. But I’m glad you aren’t whining and crying about it! If you want to be the biggest whiner on the board, you should probably have thicker skin?
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 8:47:09 AM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
My guess is there are a lot people on this board that are more sensitive to the program than others ... yet they don't divulge why. (Which is fine. I respect anonymity)

I'm guessing they're either coaches family or parents of players.

Therefore when people are critical, they take it personally. They feel like their loved ones are being attacked and their claws come out.

Understandable. But you have to know when you enter into a message board, it's not always roses and rainbows. And to expect otherwise is silly.

Most of the vitriol comes from people attacking those that are critical. Calling them whiners or crybabies. They just can't accept any critique of those they're close too.

I know if I were a parent or wife and people were critical of my kid/husband, it would be tough to read.

But I'd also totally understand that that is the norm on a message board. Caution when entering.

Trying to turn this message board into a full blown pep rally where it's nothing but praise and adulation is a pipe dream.

If the critique were coming from the mainstream media, I could see a reason for for the anger.

But this is a message board ... and this one is tame compared to most big time programs.

You have to have a thick skin if you're entering here as a proud papa. Can't take everything personal ... and starting arguments because someone is critical of your kid is wasted energy.


Lol, omg. I’m sorry for “attacking you” by calling you a whiner and crybaby. But I’m glad you aren’t whining and crying about it! If you want to be the biggest whiner on the board, you should probably have thicker skin?


Your honor, I'd like to enter into evidence exhibit A.

Dude, you get bent out of shape more than anyone on this message board.

I don't mind the comments ... because you are laughable how touchy you are about this program. It's obvious you have some connection. Want to share?

If not ... then you are just delusional to take offense to criticizing the struggles of OUr defense.

No fan or alum can objectively look at this defense and not see the problems.

Multiple people comment on it.

Yet, you do nothing but defend it. So are you an alum? Just a fan? I'm guessing parent. No other explanation for the reactions you continually exhibit.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 9:05:39 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
Sam bobcat wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
My guess is there are a lot people on this board that are more sensitive to the program than others ... yet they don't divulge why. (Which is fine. I respect anonymity)

I'm guessing they're either coaches family or parents of players.

Therefore when people are critical, they take it personally. They feel like their loved ones are being attacked and their claws come out.

Understandable. But you have to know when you enter into a message board, it's not always roses and rainbows. And to expect otherwise is silly.

Most of the vitriol comes from people attacking those that are critical. Calling them whiners or crybabies. They just can't accept any critique of those they're close too.

I know if I were a parent or wife and people were critical of my kid/husband, it would be tough to read.

But I'd also totally understand that that is the norm on a message board. Caution when entering.

Trying to turn this message board into a full blown pep rally where it's nothing but praise and adulation is a pipe dream.

If the critique were coming from the mainstream media, I could see a reason for for the anger.

But this is a message board ... and this one is tame compared to most big time programs.

You have to have a thick skin if you're entering here as a proud papa. Can't take everything personal ... and starting arguments because someone is critical of your kid is wasted energy.


Lol, omg. I’m sorry for “attacking you” by calling you a whiner and crybaby. But I’m glad you aren’t whining and crying about it! If you want to be the biggest whiner on the board, you should probably have thicker skin?


Your honor, I'd like to enter into evidence exhibit A.

Dude, you get bent out of shape more than anyone on this message board.

I don't mind the comments ... because you are laughable how touchy you are about this program. It's obvious you have some connection. Want to share?

If not ... then you are just delusional to take offense to criticizing the struggles of OUr defense.

No fan or alum can objectively look at this defense and not see the problems.

Multiple people comment on it.

Yet, you do nothing but defend it. So are you an alum? Just a fan? I'm guessing parent. No other explanation for the reactions you continually exhibit.



I respectfully disagree that he gets bent out of shape the most. I would like to nominate myself on that topic, as I have a short fuse and usually get on at a time after a busy day.

Nonetheless, I apologize to those guys for going after them. It's one of those things where we all want this program to continue to grow and make the next jump. And the catch is we all have differing views of how to get there. Some think it's with this staff, some think it's with a whole new staff (like myself). At the end of the day, I'm glad to know people out there give a genuine crap about Ohio Athletics and want to see it do well. Hopefully moving forward more fans get involved with athletics that wasn't there during the slower days of Ohio Athletics and that my generation can lead a significant charge for Ohio Athletics.

Carry on....
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Sam bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 9:37:16 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
Sam bobcat wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
My guess is there are a lot people on this board that are more sensitive to the program than others ... yet they don't divulge why. (Which is fine. I respect anonymity)

I'm guessing they're either coaches family or parents of players.

Therefore when people are critical, they take it personally. They feel like their loved ones are being attacked and their claws come out.

Understandable. But you have to know when you enter into a message board, it's not always roses and rainbows. And to expect otherwise is silly.

Most of the vitriol comes from people attacking those that are critical. Calling them whiners or crybabies. They just can't accept any critique of those they're close too.

I know if I were a parent or wife and people were critical of my kid/husband, it would be tough to read.

But I'd also totally understand that that is the norm on a message board. Caution when entering.

Trying to turn this message board into a full blown pep rally where it's nothing but praise and adulation is a pipe dream.

If the critique were coming from the mainstream media, I could see a reason for for the anger.

But this is a message board ... and this one is tame compared to most big time programs.

You have to have a thick skin if you're entering here as a proud papa. Can't take everything personal ... and starting arguments because someone is critical of your kid is wasted energy.


Lol, omg. I’m sorry for “attacking you” by calling you a whiner and crybaby. But I’m glad you aren’t whining and crying about it! If you want to be the biggest whiner on the board, you should probably have thicker skin?


Your honor, I'd like to enter into evidence exhibit A.

Dude, you get bent out of shape more than anyone on this message board.

I don't mind the comments ... because you are laughable how touchy you are about this program. It's obvious you have some connection. Want to share?

If not ... then you are just delusional to take offense to criticizing the struggles of OUr defense.

No fan or alum can objectively look at this defense and not see the problems.

Multiple people comment on it.

Yet, you do nothing but defend it. So are you an alum? Just a fan? I'm guessing parent. No other explanation for the reactions you continually exhibit.


Once again, I apologize for attacking you bshot44. I didn’t realize how traumatic it has been for you lol. And I do have a son who plays. And I simply disagree with your type and quantity of criticism. You seem to have no problem criticizing the coaches, administrators, and players. But can’t take being called a whiner. If you don’t like it, stop whining so much. And stop whining about being called a whiner. And I have been critical of the defense myself. Just not at your level. If you don’t mind the comments, why are you whining about it?

Last Edited: 10/11/2018 9:40:27 AM by Sam bobcat
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bshot44
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 10:20:55 AM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
Once again, I apologize for attacking you bshot44. I didn’t realize how traumatic it has been for you lol. And I do have a son who plays. And I simply disagree with your type and quantity of criticism. You seem to have no problem criticizing the coaches, administrators, and players. But can’t take being called a whiner. If you don’t like it, stop whining so much. And stop whining about being called a whiner. And I have been critical of the defense myself. Just not at your level. If you don’t mind the comments, why are you whining about it?


Allow me to keep whining.

I give you credit for admitting your connection to the program. Most on here wouldn't.

With that being said, it answers a lot about your sensitive nature towards the criticizing.

But again ... why do you allow it to get under your skin? Is it not easier to just ignore, scroll past and go about your day? You obviously allow it to bother you.

So you don't agree with my type of criticism? You don't like criticism based in fact? Am I just making up these numbers? And if you think it's the same thing week after week .... well, that's because I see the same thing week after week (season after season). This program ... these coaches ... repeat offenders of a lot of these things. A lot of things that plague this program are not one-off, isolated incidents.

Sam bobcat wrote:
You seem to have no problem criticizing the coaches, administrators, and players. But can’t take being called a whiner.


This is laughable. Do coaches, administrators and players not get criticized everyday by fans or alum? Does that not come with the territory of division one athletics or running a university and it's athletics program? Do you think they care for one millisecond about it? I think anytime you "perform" in front of 25000+ fans every week, you have to understand you are opening yourself up for critique? How is that hard to understand for you?

Do I think for one second that anything I type on here is going to make one iota of change or sway someone in the OU administration?

This. Is. A. Message. Board. That's all. Nothing more. Why anyone would place any extra value on that is absurd.

I have spoke to OU administrators about the problems I see with the program in terms of scheduling. Obviously, Bobcat Attack is not the forum for that.

I can't take being called a whiner? Really? Are you kidding? Do you think for one second I care about that. Ha! You place WAY to much value in what you believe I think about my perception on here.

If people want to engage with my comments ... great! I'll engage. If they just ignore them and move one ... great! If I post them in a vacuum and no one ever responds ... great! Doesn't matter to me.

Way before your son joined this team, I was posting on this message board. It's my way of actually talking about Ohio athletics because, let's be honest, if it ain't those stinkin' Buckeyes no one in Columbus cares. So this is my outlet to talk Ohio.

No one is making you respond. You obviously are the one who is touchy if you feel the need to fire verbal jabs about being a whiner and a crybaby? Defense mechanism. I get it.

Good luck to your son. I hope he (whoever he is) has a great season and contributes to the success of Ohio football now and in the future. And if he's on the defense ... I hope he can teach his teammates how to tackle better. That was a joke. Settle down. I can see the smoke coming out of your ears. But seriously ... 31 missed tackles vs. Kent? C'mon!
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 1:22:08 PM 
Ummm...I get the feeling I missed something...

I do know it would be a shame to lose some of our most informed contributors.
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Sam bobcat
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   Posted: 10/11/2018 2:18:18 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
Sam bobcat wrote:
Once again, I apologize for attacking you bshot44. I didn’t realize how traumatic it has been for you lol. And I do have a son who plays. And I simply disagree with your type and quantity of criticism. You seem to have no problem criticizing the coaches, administrators, and players. But can’t take being called a whiner. If you don’t like it, stop whining so much. And stop whining about being called a whiner. And I have been critical of the defense myself. Just not at your level. If you don’t mind the comments, why are you whining about it?


Allow me to keep whining.

I give you credit for admitting your connection to the program. Most on here wouldn't.

With that being said, it answers a lot about your sensitive nature towards the criticizing.

But again ... why do you allow it to get under your skin? Is it not easier to just ignore, scroll past and go about your day? You obviously allow it to bother you.

So you don't agree with my type of criticism? You don't like criticism based in fact? Am I just making up these numbers? And if you think it's the same thing week after week .... well, that's because I see the same thing week after week (season after season). This program ... these coaches ... repeat offenders of a lot of these things. A lot of things that plague this program are not one-off, isolated incidents.

Sam bobcat wrote:
You seem to have no problem criticizing the coaches, administrators, and players. But can’t take being called a whiner.


This is laughable. Do coaches, administrators and players not get criticized everyday by fans or alum? Does that not come with the territory of division one athletics or running a university and it's athletics program? Do you think they care for one millisecond about it? I think anytime you "perform" in front of 25000+ fans every week, you have to understand you are opening yourself up for critique? How is that hard to understand for you?

Do I think for one second that anything I type on here is going to make one iota of change or sway someone in the OU administration?

This. Is. A. Message. Board. That's all. Nothing more. Why anyone would place any extra value on that is absurd.

I have spoke to OU administrators about the problems I see with the program in terms of scheduling. Obviously, Bobcat Attack is not the forum for that.

I can't take being called a whiner? Really? Are you kidding? Do you think for one second I care about that. Ha! You place WAY to much value in what you believe I think about my perception on here.

If people want to engage with my comments ... great! I'll engage. If they just ignore them and move one ... great! If I post them in a vacuum and no one ever responds ... great! Doesn't matter to me.

Way before your son joined this team, I was posting on this message board. It's my way of actually talking about Ohio athletics because, let's be honest, if it ain't those stinkin' Buckeyes no one in Columbus cares. So this is my outlet to talk Ohio.

No one is making you respond. You obviously are the one who is touchy if you feel the need to fire verbal jabs about being a whiner and a crybaby? Defense mechanism. I get it.

Good luck to your son. I hope he (whoever he is) has a great season and contributes to the success of Ohio football now and in the future. And if he's on the defense ... I hope he can teach his teammates how to tackle better. That was a joke. Settle down. I can see the smoke coming out of your ears. But seriously ... 31 missed tackles vs. Kent? C'mon!


Man I wish I knew how to add clips of your quotes to my posts like that...

A. The fact my son plays doesn’t make me more sensitive. I criticize him and his teammates to him myself whenever warranted. I stated already that it’s the incessantness of your complaining that sometimes coaxes a response from me. I don’t do it every time you complain. I don’t have the energy.

B. Of coarse coaches, administrators and players get criticized everyday by fans or alum. Just not the same fan or alum every lovin’ day!

C. Do I think anything you post is going to sway the administration? Absolutely not, that’s why I wonder who you’re complaining to all the time. But I do think we got the annoying promotions girl replaced! As for speaking to the administrators about scheduling, thank you. I too think we could improve in that aspect.

D. You literally just posted about being “attacked” by me for calling you a whiner and crybaby. I will cease and desist with the name calling. I just have a habit of telling people in my life to stop whining all the time. Old habit.

E. I agree with you on the stinkin buckeys, I grew up hoping for their demise every Saturday. That’s why I try to put a positive spin on the programs I do enjoy rooting for rather than a negative one.

F. I guess (as established by my own testimony as well as your accusation) I am touchy about incessant complaining. I will try and get some help with that.

G. Thank you, I hope the same. Including the tackling. The tackling was terrible and needs to improve quickly.

I don’t expect you will stop complaining so much, and without medication I don’t expect I can resist the urge to tell you to quit whining once in awhile. But I do respect you and enjoy a lot of your posts. So don’t take it personal. I don’t think there’s any doubt that you are a true fan.
Go Bobbies!



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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 2:53:31 PM 
Perhaps the mother of a linebacker? (Sam)
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   Posted: 10/11/2018 3:28:46 PM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
Man I wish I knew how to add clips of your quotes to my posts like that...

A. The fact my son plays doesn’t make me more sensitive. I criticize him and his teammates to him myself whenever warranted. I stated already that it’s the incessantness of your complaining that sometimes coaxes a response from me. I don’t do it every time you complain. I don’t have the energy.


I'm not saying go back and do it because it's not worth the time ... but I can almost assure you that 90% of what I post is in response to something I read on this board. So if you view it as incessantness, that's cool. I am just having a conversation with someone or responding to something I've read. I don't think I have a negative view on this program. I just think I'm a realist. I watch A LOT of college football. Probably more than any healthy human should. And I've been around A LOT of different college football programs over the course of my career. While Ohio has made incredibly large strides in making the program relevant, there is still a long way to go to be that dominant program in the MAC.

I ask you this ... if Ohio can go from the absolute basement of the MAC in terms of just about everything, ascend to where they are now ... why is it such an insane leap to think after 14 years, they can't make another leap to being the best team in the league? Is that just pure insanity to believe that can happen? NIU went from garbage to penthouse and have found a way to stay hovering around there for a while now. BG obviously had a flash for a few years ... but the Jinks things appears to be a fail. Toledo has found a way to stay at the top, but they don't have the titles to reflect that because of NIU. Ohio hasn't had an NIU to contend with in the East. Ohio SHOULD be the NIU of the East. I really, really don't think I'm a loon for thinking that. And if you get tired of reading that ... I'm sorry.

I get just as tired reading about how Ohio fans should be totally ecstatic over 7-8 wins a year because this program sucked tailpipe for 30 years.

Again ... difference of opinion. That's part of life.

Sam bobcat wrote:
B. Of coarse coaches, administrators and players get criticized everyday by fans or alum. Just not the same fan or alum every lovin’ day!


Debatable.

Sam bobcat wrote:
C. Do I think anything you post is going to sway the administration? Absolutely not, that’s why I wonder who you’re complaining to all the time. But I do think we got the annoying promotions girl replaced! As for speaking to the administrators about scheduling, thank you. I too think we could improve in that aspect.


Sadly, credit is not due there. I've never mentioned the promotions girl. As far as who I'm complaining too ... I refer to the above comment. I'm 90+% of the time responding to something I've read. You may see it as complaining ... but, as I've said, nearly all my posts have facts or statistical data to back up my comments. I can't change facts. Sorry. But the results are the results ... the stats are the stats. They don't always favor Ohio.

Sam bobcat wrote:
D. You literally just posted about being “attacked” by me for calling you a whiner and crybaby. I will cease and desist with the name calling. I just have a habit of telling people in my life to stop whining all the time. Old habit.


Re-read that post about being "attacked". At no point did I say "I was being attacked" ... that post was NOT about me. It was a blanket statement about people attacking people on this board. I said the attackers most likely were the ones with some sort of personal relationship to the program (i.e. parent, husband, wife)

Sam bobcat wrote:
F. I guess (as established by my own testimony as well as your accusation) I am touchy about incessant complaining. I will try and get some help with that.


I don't think you need to seek any professional help with that, ha! I think maybe just use that down arrow a few more times when you're scrolling through comments.

Sam bobcat wrote:
G. Thank you, I hope the same. Including the tackling. The tackling was terrible and needs to improve quickly.


Now that's something we can certainly agree on!

Sam bobcat wrote:
I don’t expect you will stop complaining so much, and without medication I don’t expect I can resist the urge to tell you to quit whining once in awhile. But I do respect you and enjoy a lot of your posts. So don’t take it personal. I don’t think there’s any doubt that you are a true fan.


Likewise. Respect is mutual. As I've said before ... I don't think anyone on this message board is NOT a true fan. Who else would waste their time seeking out Bobcat Attack to type about Ohio football, ha!
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 4:15:16 PM 
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 7:06:43 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

OCF thank you for accepting my apology and being a brother. We as Bobcat fans love the cats and see thing through different lenses, but we all can’t wait to go crazy after winning the MAC. Some of us are frustrated like myself, but I love the Cats and I love this message board. Sambobcat, I see where some of your frustration may come from, you have a son that is giving its all. I wish the Bobcats nothing but the best, I think about the players and sometimes I get mad because I think they will lose out on opportunities to play pro football because of mental breakdowns or bad fundamentals, not for my own bragging rights, but because they are so close to reaching a dream that I once had, so when I point stuff out, most of the time it is coming from that lens. When we blow a game I worry that the young men may miss out on a Mac championship memory. The cats are big time to me, they are not an intramural team, I get prepared for every season just like I do for the Browns

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 7:52:24 PM 
allen wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

OCF thank you for accepting my apology and being a brother. We as Bobcat fans love the cats and see thing through different lenses, but we all can’t wait to go crazy after winning the MAC. Some of us are frustrated like myself, but I love the Cats and I love this message board. Sambobcat, I see where some of your frustration may come from, you have a son that is giving its all. I wish the Bobcats nothing but the best, I think about the players and sometimes I get mad because I think they will lose out on opportunities to play pro football because of mental breakdowns or bad fundamentals, not for my own bragging rights, but because they are so close to reaching a dream that I once had, so when I point stuff out, most of the time it is coming from that lens. When we blow a game I worry that the young men may miss out on a Mac championship memory. The cats are big time to me, they are not an intramural team, I get prepared for every season just like I do for the Browns



+1

And, for the record, my son is a Browns fan. I watch the games every Sunday afternoon with him. Being the eternal optimistic, I think things are looking up for the Browns this season!

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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 9:04:13 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

OCF thank you for accepting my apology and being a brother. We as Bobcat fans love the cats and see thing through different lenses, but we all can’t wait to go crazy after winning the MAC. Some of us are frustrated like myself, but I love the Cats and I love this message board. Sambobcat, I see where some of your frustration may come from, you have a son that is giving its all. I wish the Bobcats nothing but the best, I think about the players and sometimes I get mad because I think they will lose out on opportunities to play pro football because of mental breakdowns or bad fundamentals, not for my own bragging rights, but because they are so close to reaching a dream that I once had, so when I point stuff out, most of the time it is coming from that lens. When we blow a game I worry that the young men may miss out on a Mac championship memory. The cats are big time to me, they are not an intramural team, I get prepared for every season just like I do for the Browns



+1

And, for the record, my son is a Browns fan. I watch the games every Sunday afternoon with him. Being the eternal optimistic, I think things are looking up for the Browns this season!



Thanks allen, I argue with you guys like I do with my brothers. If I caught any RedHawks arguing with you or bshot44 I would jump in with both elbows! I enjoy the banter between us. What can I say? I grew up with 5 Irish brothers lol. I don’t take any of this stuff personal. It’s a welcome distraction from the real stresses of life.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 9:35:53 PM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

OCF thank you for accepting my apology and being a brother. We as Bobcat fans love the cats and see thing through different lenses, but we all can’t wait to go crazy after winning the MAC. Some of us are frustrated like myself, but I love the Cats and I love this message board. Sambobcat, I see where some of your frustration may come from, you have a son that is giving its all. I wish the Bobcats nothing but the best, I think about the players and sometimes I get mad because I think they will lose out on opportunities to play pro football because of mental breakdowns or bad fundamentals, not for my own bragging rights, but because they are so close to reaching a dream that I once had, so when I point stuff out, most of the time it is coming from that lens. When we blow a game I worry that the young men may miss out on a Mac championship memory. The cats are big time to me, they are not an intramural team, I get prepared for every season just like I do for the Browns



+1

And, for the record, my son is a Browns fan. I watch the games every Sunday afternoon with him. Being the eternal optimistic, I think things are looking up for the Browns this season!



Thanks allen, I argue with you guys like I do with my brothers. If I caught any RedHawks arguing with you or bshot44 I would jump in with both elbows! I enjoy the banter between us. What can I say? I grew up with 5 Irish brothers lol. I don’t take any of this stuff personal. It’s a welcome distraction from the real stresses of life.


I hear you, that’s good to know. Go Cats

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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/11/2018 9:45:39 PM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
allen wrote:
All three bobcat fans are serving self imposed bans, both are noble and nice gentlemen. I just reached out to OCF and apologized for thinking that he was racist because of some of his conservative views. After interacting with him personally, I can say he is not a racist, we just disagree on certain issues. Some of us disagree about certain things and because we don’t personally know one another, we craft a picture of someone in our minds that imay not be inaccurate. This was related to TJ Carrie kneeling, we all agree that TJ is a nice guy and he had a right to do what he felt, as a former bobcat, it was football related, we had dialogue about his decision and the discussion got out of hand. I would just like to vouch for both of these men, they love Ohio University and Ohio football. I hope that they will continue to add their valuable insight. Doc Bobcat has always blessed us with recruiting and team info and never been involved in controversy. God bless you all.


Thank you so much, allen. I really appreciate your posting this. I've just read your followup PM, and have responded to it at some length. I won't repeat that here, but I think it'll give you even a clearer picture of where I'm coming from. It took a good and big man to make this post. I only hope that I can do as well going forward. Our life experiences do help frame how we respond to things we see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. I now have a much better idea of your life experiences, and I have a better appreciation of the positions you take on certain controversial issues. God bless you, allen!

OCF thank you for accepting my apology and being a brother. We as Bobcat fans love the cats and see thing through different lenses, but we all can’t wait to go crazy after winning the MAC. Some of us are frustrated like myself, but I love the Cats and I love this message board. Sambobcat, I see where some of your frustration may come from, you have a son that is giving its all. I wish the Bobcats nothing but the best, I think about the players and sometimes I get mad because I think they will lose out on opportunities to play pro football because of mental breakdowns or bad fundamentals, not for my own bragging rights, but because they are so close to reaching a dream that I once had, so when I point stuff out, most of the time it is coming from that lens. When we blow a game I worry that the young men may miss out on a Mac championship memory. The cats are big time to me, they are not an intramural team, I get prepared for every season just like I do for the Browns



+1

And, for the record, my son is a Browns fan. I watch the games every Sunday afternoon with him. Being the eternal optimistic, I think things are looking up for the Browns this season!



Thanks allen, I argue with you guys like I do with my brothers. If I caught any RedHawks arguing with you or bshot44 I would jump in with both elbows! I enjoy the banter between us. What can I say? I grew up with 5 Irish brothers lol. I don’t take any of this stuff personal. It’s a welcome distraction from the real stresses of life.


Amen to that!
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  Message Not Read  RE: OCF, L.C. and Doc Bobcat
   Posted: 10/12/2018 2:09:22 PM 
This is the greatest meeting of the minds since DJT and Kim Jung Un fell in love. Was there a beautiful letter?
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   Posted: 10/12/2018 4:05:30 PM 
And here I thought OCF wasn't posting because he was in exile after his Cubbies were eliminated from the the post-season.
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