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Topic: No, THIS is Ohio Football

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C Money
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No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 3:56:38 PM

I don't even know why I do this any more. It never fails. We aren't allowed to have nice things. I need to just accept it and find something else to spend this energy on.

Like, just, somebody, next Saturday, come over to my house and kick me in the groin about 4 times. It will be as enjoyable as watching our pathetic red zone playcalling, and will be over much quicker.

I might be done, guys. This one might have broken me forever.

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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 3:58:39 PM

I can�t believe I�m typing this, but suddenly even the Browns aren�t as infuriating.

allen
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 4:01:31 PM

This is Ohio football, not closing

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

Mark Lembright '85
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 4:02:53 PM

Believe me, I feel the same too. My enthusiasm for this year is shot, especially given this year�s expectations. Unless there�s some miraculous turnaround, I just don�t see Ohio winning the MAC. Heck, Buffalo will destroy us.

But hang in there! I�m an avid Browns fan and just maybe we might be back. Granted it�s taken 20 years. So Ohio will be win the MACC someday for sure. When, I have no idea other than it won�t be this year. But Ohio will someday win the MAC.

Now, to enjoy some beers at Octoberfest!

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 4:03:38 PM by Mark Lembright '85

OU_Country
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 4:15:09 PM

It probably isn't popular for some, but for me, until something changes, Ohio Football is for tailgating. I root for them, sure, but I'm not going to be terribly hopeful that an Albin led offense is going to change its stripes anytime soon to the point that Ohio can take the next step to being really good.

As I said in a text to a friend:

OU should have won, or at least scored at the end to lead. Inside the one yard line with a minute to go and not getting in is inexcusable. OC and the coaching staff responsible getting plays that can get one half of a yard with a minute left to win.

See ya Saturday, at least until the band is done playing.

cbus cat fan
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 4:15:57 PM

We have the biggest fan base in the MAC. We are constantly poised to take it to the next level in both football and basketball, but we can never quite do that because of strategic planning errors and game day mental errors. Today's end of the game head scratching play calling is a case in point. Imagine that we and not Buffalo had beaten a Power 5 Conference team by 29 points. It would reap future rewards the likes of which we cannot imagine. Yet, I doubt few in Buffalo will even notice. Sad on so many different levels.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 7:36:05 PM by cbus cat fan

bshot44
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 7:03:44 PM

All of this. +10000000

LuckySparrow
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 7:10:42 PM

I second all the sentiments in the thread.

When Cincinnati threw that deep TD pass I got the all too familiar feeling that it was happening again. We crack and allow big plays, shoot ourselves in the foot at the worst time, and rarely come up in the clutch. Which is a shame because we played a lot of good football today. After the first half I felt like the team had progressed and fixed a lot of issues in the trenches. Bad result in the end. Very sad!

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

BobcatPride
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 7:55:50 PM

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

My enthusiasm for this year is shot, especially given this year�s expectations. Unless there�s some miraculous turnaround, I just don�t see Ohio winning the MAC. Heck, Buffalo will destroy us.

+1 I try my best to talk up OHIO football, try to make it seem relevant to my friends and get them a little interested in the Bobcats. But their underwhelming performances make it very hard.

cbus cat fan
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 7:57:34 PM

We have all discussed the strategic planning errors the MAC and specifically our beloved Alma mater has made in the last few years, but just imagine that we played 3 quarters of good football in the last two games instead of 2. Any successful team strives for four quarters of quality play, but just imagine that we had put together 3 quarters and we were sitting at 3-0. Right now Midwest football analysts are talking about Buffalo when they do throw the MAC a bone for some time. Imagine that we were getting that time instead of Buffalo.

Remember Coach Solich's first game when we beat Coach Wannstedt's Pitt Panthers? Remember the buzz that created? Ohio along with Toledo and Northern Illinois are one of the few MAC teams that can generate the type of fan and media support that could bring us to the next level. Sadly it doesn't look like it will ever happen, that ship has sailed for a number of strategic reasons that might have been possible just a few years ago. There could have been a MAC version of Boise State, which would have been far more possible in the Midwest than in the Rocky Mountains, but Boise took advantage of their shot and no MAC team took advantage of their narrow window.

Much like Coach Danny Nee wistfully theorizing that had he not left Ohio basketball for Nebraska in 1986, he might have got us into the Final Four, football fans wonder what might have been if we had taken advantage of some of the possibilities that came our way in the last few years. Like Terry Malloy (Marlon Brando) in "On The Waterfront," we could have been contenders if things had gone a little differently.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 8:05:55 PM by cbus cat fan

BobcatPride
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 8:13:15 PM

It�s delusional to think Ohio could have or will ever be a Boise St. When a large number of OHIO alumni and students won�t come to Peden if an OSU game conflicts with a Bobcat game, that idea is just a pipe dream.

cbus cat fan
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 8:23:55 PM

I am sure the Bronco faithful might have said the same thing 25 years ago about any number of schools that had much of their state's allegiance ranging from the Washington Huskies to the Oregon Ducks and BYU Cougars. Keep in mind, it wasn't until the mid 1990s that Boise State left the ranks of I-AA.

CafTud
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 8:38:29 PM

cbus cat fan wrote:

Boise is a Toledo-sized city, largest in the state. The P5 programs you mention are 300 miles away. If you want to make that comparison, then it is only fair to look a few miles down the road to Idaho as the other possibility. They just returned to the ranks of I-AA. A competitive road loss against a superior opponent doesn't seem so bad by that comparison.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 8:39:10 PM by CafTud

CafTud
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 8:53:52 PM

I think a more realistic comparison, in terms of support and being in a small town 90 minutes down the road from the flagship P5 program in the state capitol, is Utah State.

Since 2005, Utah State is 69-94, and 3-3 in bowl games (which includes, among other things, a hearty helping of potatoes).

They had one great year in 2012, when they went 11-2 with a 2 pt loss at Wisconsin and a 3 pt loss at BYU and ended up ranked.

Unfortunately, their coach was immediately poached by a P5 program (probably not coincidently, by Wisconsin); they had a couple more good seasons but then tailed off.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 9:20:40 PM by CafTud

cbus cat fan
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:04:08 PM

Keep in mind, I am saying that ship has sailed but it certainly could have sailed a few years back when Ohio State was immersed in controversy and Luke Fickell led them to a 6-6 campaign. Remember some Cincy Bearcat faithful didn't think they could ever have a successful football program again after a revolving door of coaches in the 1970s and early 1980s. I think they had 4 or five coaches in a 10 year span. The basketball program didn't become relevant again until Coach Huggins revived them in the 90s. Some folks thought the days of Oscar Robinson's winning ways would never return.

It is all in how you look at it. Toledo, Ohio and Northern Illinois just didn't take advantage of the chances given to them and Boise did. I get the small media market thing, I have talked about data and demographics on this site until I am blue in the face. However, the one unsaid thing is that we have plenty of money people (young and old) as well as media types in Columbus who went to Ohio. Just driving around Columbus today (and wearing an old school 1970s style Bobcat green shirt that I bought in Charleston, South Carolina at a vintage sports shop years ago,) I saw many an alum in Bobcat attire. Sometimes we greet each other and comment on when we were in Athens. This is something that just didn't happen in the 1980s and 90s. It is relatively new and something that could have been used to our advantage, but that ship has sailed. However, I will always say that it was possible if we (Ohio, Toledo and Northern Illinois) had taken advantage of that narrow window.

CafTud
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:12:29 PM

The way I look at it, today's disappointment notwithstanding, is that with new infrastructure, consistently competitive teams including 4 MACC appearances, bowl games and a couple of NCAA tournament runs on the basketball side, the past decade has been - speaking relatively, of course - the golden era of Ohio University Athletics.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 9:13:00 PM by CafTud

cbus cat fan
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:30:50 PM

Catfud I see what you are getting at, and my wife probably rightly so says I can be too optimistic, but in this case I ponder on what might have been. You have to remember that I sat in the stands at Peden in 1986 and 87 and my roommate and I along with a couple other die hards could single handily count every body in the stands at Peden after halftime. We would generally be off by only a dozen or so from each other's count. While most of the MAC's highly regarded coaches have been poached to the Power 5, we have retained Coach Solich for 13 years and we have come oh so close to taking it to the next level.

Watching the amazing Bobcat basketball run and in the early and mid 80s and then reading Coach Danny Nee's lament years later that if he had stayed in Athens and not gone to the Cornhuskers, he is sure he could have got us to a Final Four. While we have facilities that Bobcats could have dreamed about when I was an undergrad in the 80s, it is the "what might have been" that rattles around my brain on days like today.

Last Edited: 9/22/2018 9:33:15 PM by cbus cat fan

CafTud
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:34:37 PM

Stuff happens. The Portland Trail Blazers infamously passed on Michael Jordan to draft Sam Bowie. Beat that.

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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:43:59 PM

CatFud wrote:

Sorry, my friend, the 60�s were the golden age of Ohio athletics. Football, baseball, wrestling, cross country,swimming, and basketball were all fun to watch in those days. The facilities were not good, but the coaches were pretty good and there was not the disparity in budgets that you see now.

CafTud
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RE: No, THIS is Ohio Football

Posted: 9/22/2018 9:52:30 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

CatFud wrote:

Not old enough to know that...1960 (undefeated), 1962 (Sun Bowl) and 1968 (Tangerine Bowl) look good; 1965, not so much.

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