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Topic:  O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 7:08:43 PM 
Just saw this on ESPN.
Has to do with when / what he may have known about domestic abuse allegations against a coach he fired on 7/23 .

Lots more to come.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 7:37:00 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:


Lots more to come.


Including his departure from OSU.

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 7:49:01 PM 
I have to admit, my first thought was, will the Bobcats be the best collegiate football team in the State of Ohio this year? Yes, that’s naivety to the extreme, I know and am well aware. I still thought it though. Yes I’m drinking hunter green koolaid.....
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 8:37:47 PM 
As one can image it is quite the story on Columbus TV and radio news, and really quite the story in the northern suburbs of Columbus where some of the incidents were said to take place. The bottom line for all sports programs, no matter how big or small, when someone is a cancer on a program and will not change i.e. a wife beater, stalker, thug etc get them out of your program before they bring you and your program down.

Perhaps Coach Urban Meyer felt he owed something to the late Coach Earle Bruce, so he cut corners for his grandson, Coach Zach Smith. However, by doing so all it seemed to have done was to enable more abuse towards Zach Smith's wife and probably scare the heck out of his young children. The stalking continued. Think about the fact that Zach Smith is probably making more than 90% of most Division I assistants. Yet he still has anger issues, and because of it he not only beats his wife, he then stalks her when she divorces him. This guy is living the dream and he has to beat on women and stalk them? Why on earth would you want to have someone like that around your program?

Last Edited: 8/1/2018 8:42:05 PM by cbus cat fan

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 9:08:34 PM 
Maybe Urban missed that lesson with his $500k per year “life coach.”
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 9:21:35 PM 
(Patiently awaits the first tosu/urban liar apologist to weigh in with their spin)


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And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's.

"This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 9:26:07 PM 
This fits right into line with Meyer's action's down at Florida. He seemed to have a God complex where he thought that dinners with his family and prayer circles would cure some of the most out of control thugs in cfb history. I actually was beginning to believe he'd learned a lesson since then and really seemed to be pretty hardcore in cracking down on players at OSU. Guess not.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 9:44:17 PM 
And all of this on top of Jim Jordan and the wrestlling program fiasco and doctor at tosu.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 9:51:43 PM 
And it happens on the day he announced a spokesperson deal with Bob Evans restaurants. Great timing.


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We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/1/2018 10:54:15 PM 
Alan I will make you a deal, if you leave Jim Jordan out of the wrestling scandal at Ohio State, I won't bring up Fusion GPS.

There's a lot of corruption at Ohio State, which when you have the type of money they can throw around is bound to happen. I hope I can say that every MAC school would have the good sense not to employ Coach Zach Smith. He took his grandfather's name and ran with it and in the process is bringing down the very institution his grandfather helped build up, even though they certainly didn't appreciate it at the time!

With all of the crazy money Ohio State has to spend with Life Coaches and Compliance people, you would think they would see this coming. Then again, how on earth did Michigan State not see that Dr. Larry Nasser was a reprobate from Day 1. Some of these big time institutions sure don't seem to have an abundance of common sense in their dens of decision making.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 7:18:57 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
And all of this on top of Jim Jordan and the wrestlling program fiasco and doctor at tosu.


If you can find it,you should check out the unedited video put out by one of the former wrestler's (De Sabato) company (Combat Athlete Coalition) in June.

De Sabto is the wrestler suing OSU.

The video shows both he and the other prominent accuser (Yetts) saying that they
never knew themselves,told or reported to Jordan any "alleged sexual abuse".

De Sabto also says that,while his private parts may have been fondled,there were no sexual activities.

CNN and NBC have played edited versions of the video that removed these and other embarrassing items.

Not surprisingly,the unedited version is not easy to find.

If you're really interested in reading both sides of this story,go to http://www.themat.com and check out their college wrestling forums.

Last Edited: 8/2/2018 7:28:16 AM by rpbobcat

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 7:23:54 AM 
D.A. wrote:
(Patiently awaits the first tosu/urban liar apologist to weigh in with their spin)


Just for s _ _ _ ts and giggles I checked out some of the OSU fan boards.

Lots of "wrongly accused" ,"how can he save his job and legacy" and that there's no direct evidence.

The other thing that;s getting a lot of press out here is that Greg Schiano didn't get named acting head coach.


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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 7:47:39 AM 
Not being an apologist for OSU or Meyer here, but who's to say his wife didn't tell him about it to protect her husband? She's the wife of one the best head coaches in college football who makes millions of dollars for their family. You think she doesn't know how sensitive this stuff is?
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 8:22:57 AM 
Full interview with Courtney Smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3qX5NpgGDA

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 8:38:56 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Not being an apologist for OSU or Meyer here, but who's to say his wife didn't tell him about it to protect her husband? She's the wife of one the best head coaches in college football who makes millions of dollars for their family. You think she doesn't know how sensitive this stuff is?


I think a lot depends on how many exchanges there were between the 2 ladies.

One or two,you might be able to keep them a secret.
However,if they had ongoing discussions, that gets harder to hide.

I do think that,regardless of whether she told him or not,unless there is a "paper trail" that implicates Meyer,his wife will "fall on her sword' and say she never told him.

Now that N.J. has sports betting,wonder how long before they are taking bets on whether or not Meyer is gone ?

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 9:14:09 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
Not being an apologist for OSU or Meyer here, but who's to say his wife didn't tell him about it to protect her husband? She's the wife of one the best head coaches in college football who makes millions of dollars for their family. You think she doesn't know how sensitive this stuff is?


I think a lot depends on how many exchanges there were between the 2 ladies.

One or two,you might be able to keep them a secret.
However,if they had ongoing discussions, that gets harder to hide.

I do think that,regardless of whether she told him or not,unless there is a "paper trail" that implicates Meyer,his wife will "fall on her sword' and say she never told him.

Now that N.J. has sports betting,wonder how long before they are taking bets on whether or not Meyer is gone ?



The 'wife falling on the sword' method didn't work out too well for Bryan Colangelo.

Possible cover-up of illegal activities didn't work out too well for Joe Paterno.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 9:34:10 AM 
If one of your employees had their spouse come to you and allege that he/she was abusive at home -- but the police were aware, and there were no charges pressed -- what is the duty of the employer here? Report the employee? To whom? The police already know.

It is not clear that a Title IX violation actually occurred.

Urban's vulnerability is that he may have lied about knowing about it publicly during Big Ten Media Day. And if lying to the media is a removable offense...
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 9:43:07 AM 
OhioStunter wrote:
If one of your employees had their spouse come to you and allege that he/she was abusive at home -- but the police were aware, and there were no charges pressed -- what is the duty of the employer here? Report the employee? To whom? The police already know.

It is not clear that a Title IX violation actually occurred.

Urban's vulnerability is that he may have lied about knowing about it publicly during Big Ten Media Day. And if lying to the media is a removable offense...


Saw a tweet from a reporter where Urban's contract shows he is supposed to report these types of things.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 9:55:06 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
OhioStunter wrote:
If one of your employees had their spouse come to you and allege that he/she was abusive at home -- but the police were aware, and there were no charges pressed -- what is the duty of the employer here? Report the employee? To whom? The police already know.

It is not clear that a Title IX violation actually occurred.

Urban's vulnerability is that he may have lied about knowing about it publicly during Big Ten Media Day. And if lying to the media is a removable offense...


Saw a tweet from a reporter where Urban's contract shows he is supposed to report these types of things.


Report to who? The school? The NCAA? If law enforcement is aware of the allegation and the complainant refuses to press charges and no charges are filed, what is there to report on?
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:17:13 AM 
OhioStunter wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OhioStunter wrote:
If one of your employees had their spouse come to you and allege that he/she was abusive at home -- but the police were aware, and there were no charges pressed -- what is the duty of the employer here? Report the employee? To whom? The police already know.

It is not clear that a Title IX violation actually occurred.

Urban's vulnerability is that he may have lied about knowing about it publicly during Big Ten Media Day. And if lying to the media is a removable offense...


Saw a tweet from a reporter where Urban's contract shows he is supposed to report these types of things.


Report to who? The school? The NCAA? If law enforcement is aware of the allegation and the complainant refuses to press charges and no charges are filed, what is there to report on?


According to ESPN, there was an addendum added to the contract extension Meyer signed in April that in the event he became aware of such allegations, he was to report such allegations to the Athletic Dept.'s Title IX coordinator.

Also, as to Mrs. Meyer, even if she didn't tell her husband, since she's also an OSU employee, isn't she also culpable and subject to termination?

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:17:17 AM 
Isn't this how it started with Paterno? Campus police were aware at Penn State but did nothing.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:28:21 AM 
Day Tripper wrote:
Isn't this how it started with Paterno? Campus police were aware at Penn State but did nothing.


It's easy to hear "major college coach", "allegations", and "cover up" and think the situations are similar, but there are significant differences here.

This did not involve allegations of assault of minors by a university employee on university property. In the PSU case, law enforcement was not notified of the issues, but in the OSU case, law enforcement was already aware of the allegations (and found no reason to pursue charges predominantly due to the wife not wanting to file charges). To my knowledge, campus police at OSU may not have been aware of this (and what could they do anyway since nothing happened on university property?)

Last Edited: 8/2/2018 10:49:14 AM by OhioStunter

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:29:43 AM 
OhioStunter wrote:
Day Tripper wrote:
Isn't this how it started with Paterno? Campus police were aware at Penn State but did nothing.


It's easy to hear "major college coach", "allegations", and "cover up" and think the situations are similar, but there are significant differences here.

This did not involve allegations of assault of minors by a university employee on university property. Law enforcement was not notified of the PSU issues, but law enforcement was already aware of the allegations (and found no reason to pursue charges predominantly due to the wife not wanting to file charges). To my knowledge, campus police at OSU may not have been aware of this (and what could they do anyway since nothing happened on university property?)


Yeah you can't compare the PSU thing to this. Unless this incident (plus the wrestling thing) opens a whole other can of worms we don't know about.
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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:37:39 AM 
You work at a company and one of your employees had their spouse come to you and allege that he was abusive at home -- but the police were aware - it is most likely as the high profile boss that the police inquired your knowledge.

There were no charges pressed.

You then move companies and bring said employee with you. There are more/new allegations, and photos, and emails where the alleged spouse informs others (including your wife) that the abuse is again taking place. Your new employer knows nothing about the past or present allegations.

Accusations arise. Your new employer (currently snarled in another sexually charged allegation) asks what you know. You say you know n nothing.

The new employers investigation shows you did know, but declined to tell them. and lied when directly asked.

If lying to your boss is not a removable offense...

Last Edited: 8/2/2018 10:39:40 AM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: O.T. Urban Meyer Placed On Administrative Leave
   Posted: 8/2/2018 10:41:11 AM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

Also, as to Mrs. Meyer, even if she didn't tell her husband, since she's also an OSU employee, isn't she also culpable and subject to termination?



Curious,do you know what her job at OSU is ?

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