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Mark Lembright '85
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2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/26/2018 8:09:21 PM

The 2018 football media guide is out on Ohiobobcats.com. One thing I noticed is that according to the guide, the Cincinnati game is at 3:00 pm.

Edit: never mind-the guide IS OUT but I was looking at the Virginia game time, which is at 3. The Cincinnati game is still TBA. Sorry about that.

Last Edited: 8/26/2018 8:12:42 PM by Mark Lembright '85

ytownbobcat
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/27/2018 9:39:09 AM

Usual non proof read/ non fact checked content. In Coach Burrows' bio I learned that he has a son that plays at Ohio State.
Sorry to nit pick but it is full of mistakes as usual. Culprit is probably cut and paste.

Anyhow it is good to have it. Also Game notes and official two deep is out too.

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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/27/2018 10:13:02 AM

Yes, there are many errors. The list of Ohio players who have been in the NFL, for example, was carried over from last year. In my thread on NFL players, I added about 5 recent players to their list, and OCF has pointed out several times that one of Ohio's most famous NFL players, Vince Costello, is omitted.

I also didn't have to read very far into the records section to find obvious errors. One of the first records was for most points in a game, with the top ten all being 60 or more. The next record was for largest margin of victory. Amazingly, if the records are to be believed, Ohio won a game by 61 points without scoring 60.

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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/27/2018 3:20:44 PM

One thing I learned doing these sorts of projects is that you're better off including a little less than you'd like but making sure you have time to get it right. Overpromise on the details of what you're going to include and suddenly it's four in the morning and you're in a morgue-like room with yearbooks and yellowing newsprint fact-checking box scores from a game played during the Truman administration.

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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/27/2018 3:52:56 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

One thing I learned doing these sorts of projects is that you're better off including a little less than you'd like but making sure you have time to get it right. Overpromise on the details of what you're going to include and suddenly it's four in the morning and you're in a morgue-like room with yearbooks and yellowing newsprint fact-checking box scores from a game played during the Truman administration.

Most of this information is carried over from year to year, with minor updates, and I presume those are done by software.

It seems to me they could do one of two things. One would be to try to improve the accuracy of one section each year. The other would be to crowd-source the proof-reading. They could put out the word to have people send obvious errors to a mailbox, then commit to actually fixing whatever is found.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/29/2018 10:32:08 AM

A Bobcat Sports Historical Society of sorts. Not a bad idea.

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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/29/2018 3:02:55 PM

Re: Ohio's all time record, 563-555-48. Is this finally to the point that Ohio can be referred to as a "winning" program?

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Bobcat Grad 86
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/30/2018 10:52:55 AM

I can assure you that as the Ohio Golf Sports Information Office contact person for Golf, the 1985 and 1986 Media Guides were completed on time without errors. After Frank Morgan proofed the rough draft, Melba Evans and June Hunter typed up and double and tripled checked for errors.

My roommate was the Editor of the 1985 Basketball Media Guide and also worked with the wrestling team. One year he had to let wrestling coach Harry Houska know that they would have to re-shoot all of the wrestling profile pictures again. Houska asked why and my roommate said "Harry (Snavely) forgot to put film in the camera".

The Golf Media Guide budget was $500, Basketball was $10,000. I made my budget with the help of June & Melba and Bob Cooley printed the ten page media guides at his cost.

Last Edited: 8/30/2018 10:54:08 AM by Bobcat Grad 86

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/30/2018 1:04:11 PM

Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:

I can assure you that as the Ohio Golf Sports Information Office contact person for Golf, the 1985 and 1986 Media Guides were completed on time without errors. After Frank Morgan proofed the rough draft, Melba Evans and June Hunter typed up and double and tripled checked for errors.

My roommate was the Editor of the 1985 Basketball Media Guide and also worked with the wrestling team. One year he had to let wrestling coach Harry Houska know that they would have to re-shoot all of the wrestling profile pictures again. Houska asked why and my roommate said "Harry (Snavely) forgot to put film in the camera".

The Golf Media Guide budget was $500, Basketball was $10,000. I made my budget with the help of June & Melba and Bob Cooley printed the ten page media guides at his cost.

It's amazing how much more accurate ya'll were when you had to do all the work methodically. Now that us young punks can copy and paste things into InDesign and PDF it no problem, we make so many more errors. We get careless.

I wouldn't give up digital photography for anything, though. Just the thought of not knowing if you got a good shot until you developed it gives me the hives. ;)

Last Edited: 8/30/2018 1:06:06 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

L.C.
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RE: 2018 Media Guide is Out

Posted: 8/30/2018 3:17:29 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

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I wouldn't give up digital photography for anything, though. Just the thought of not knowing if you got a good shot until you developed it gives me the hives. ;)

We made up for it by taking extra shots. We developed our own film, and made contact prints, so it wasn't long before we knew which shots were good. We only made actual prints of the good negatives. For those that aren't old timers, making contact prints meant cutting the negatives into short strips, and laying those on the paper, and then exposing them. A single 8x10 paper would hold the pictures from a roll, about 25-30 negative sized images.

There is no doubt, digital is way better.

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