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Topic:  Post Article on G5 Playoff
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 7:04:46 AM 
There's an article in today's (12/5) The Post about a G5 playoff.

The writer makes a some interesting points,several of which have been posted here.

Personally,I think all D1 programs should,at least theoretically,have a chance to make the playoffs.

There's also no question that current system makes that almost impossible.

After thinking about it I came up with an idea.

Expand the playoffs to 8 eight teams.

6 slots go to P5 conferences, for the committee to distribute as they see fit.
2 slots go to G5 schools,again,as the committee sees the fit.

See how the G5 teams do over a few years.
They hold their own,they stay.
They don't,then look at a G5 playoff.

Last Edited: 12/5/2017 7:05:52 AM by rpbobcat
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 8:49:21 AM 
I really want the conference championship games to carry more weight. I have to think that if there were no championship games, we would still have the same final four that we have now.

16 team playoff. 10 automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids. Play the first round at the higher seed's place.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 8:51:33 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
There's an article in today's (12/5) The Post about a G5 playoff.

The writer makes a some interesting points,several of which have been posted here.

Personally,I think all D1 programs should,at least theoretically,have a chance to make the playoffs.

There's also no question that current system makes that almost impossible.

After thinking about it I came up with an idea.

Expand the playoffs to 8 eight teams.

6 slots go to P5 conferences, for the committee to distribute as they see fit.
2 slots go to G5 schools,again,as the committee sees the fit.

See how the G5 teams do over a few years.
They hold their own,they stay.
They don't,then look at a G5 playoff.


A playoff for conferences like the MAC simply admits once and for all that those conferences are second level. We currently have that with D 1 and D 1 AA. The playoff proposed in this article would place a playoff between those two levels.

Last Edited: 12/5/2017 10:19:46 AM by Alan Swank
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mf279801
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 9:27:33 AM 
We'll call it a tournament (sounds more grand than a playoff). Of course, it'll be national in scope. Invitations will go out for this National Tournament in December...I've got it! We'll call it the CBI.
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 10:51:09 AM 
I heard a discussion about this on one of the games I watched over the weekend. I think it was the C-USA championship game. The announcers concluded that it wasn't going to ever happen because the current setup brings too much money to the G5 schools, and that they would have to forfeit that in the G5 Playoff System.

My personal favorite tweak of the current system would be to expanded it to eight. Give each P5 conference champ an automatic bid. Have two slots for at-large bids, and one slot for the highest ranked G5 team.

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OhioStunter
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/5/2017 11:21:33 AM 
shabamon wrote:
I really want the conference championship games to carry more weight. I have to think that if there were no championship games, we would still have the same final four that we have now.

16 team playoff. 10 automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids. Play the first round at the higher seed's place.


It would be interesting to see if an automatic bid would be the higher seed. That could result in Alabama heading to Toledo for a first game.
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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/6/2017 12:39:01 PM 
OhioStunter wrote:
shabamon wrote:
I really want the conference championship games to carry more weight. I have to think that if there were no championship games, we would still have the same final four that we have now.

16 team playoff. 10 automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids. Play the first round at the higher seed's place.


It would be interesting to see if an automatic bid would be the higher seed. That could result in Alabama heading to Toledo for a first game.



THAT would be fun! It would never be allowed to happen, but damn would it be fun.
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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/6/2017 2:58:58 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I heard a discussion about this on one of the games I watched over the weekend. I think it was the C-USA championship game. The announcers concluded that it wasn't going to ever happen because the current setup brings too much money to the G5 schools, and that they would have to forfeit that in the G5 Playoff System.

My personal favorite tweak of the current system would be to expanded it to eight. Give each P5 conference champ an automatic bid. Have two slots for at-large bids, and one slot for the highest ranked G5 team.


That's the most realistic scenario. Get the best G5 team in every year and see what happens in the first five years. As a college football fan in general, I really have no desire to see an 8-4 Sunbelt champ playing in Tuscaloosa or Columbus.
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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/6/2017 3:00:17 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
OhioStunter wrote:
shabamon wrote:
I really want the conference championship games to carry more weight. I have to think that if there were no championship games, we would still have the same final four that we have now.

16 team playoff. 10 automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids. Play the first round at the higher seed's place.


It would be interesting to see if an automatic bid would be the higher seed. That could result in Alabama heading to Toledo for a first game.



THAT would be fun! It would never be allowed to happen, but damn would it be fun.


In an 8 team playoff like OCF suggested, 2010 Boise would have hosted a P5 team in the first round had they not lost to Nevada, so it is possible. But no way do they force higher ranked P5 teams to play first round games at G5 stadiums, and I'm fine with that. Attendance money would be a big part of the pot and small schools' AD's need that money desperately.

Last Edited: 12/6/2017 3:01:22 PM by OUPride
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/6/2017 3:19:27 PM 
Hypothetically, if the 10 auto bids comprised the top 10 seeds, based on the current AP Poll, UCF would host Alabama and Toledo would host Auburn.
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Bobcat-7.0
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  Message Not Read  RE: Post Article on G5 Playoff
   Posted: 12/6/2017 3:32:01 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I heard a discussion about this on one of the games I watched over the weekend. I think it was the C-USA championship game. The announcers concluded that it wasn't going to ever happen because the current setup brings too much money to the G5 schools, and that they would have to forfeit that in the G5 Playoff System.

My personal favorite tweak of the current system would be to expanded it to eight. Give each P5 conference champ an automatic bid. Have two slots for at-large bids, and one slot for the highest ranked G5 team.


This sounds like the most reasonable idea yet, as long as the G5 school is ranked in the top 20. If not that spot go to another at large team.
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