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On any given Saturday.... Southern Illinois has done what no MAC team has done this season -- beaten a "P". They took down Northwestern by 7. Oh, and Missouri State leads #10 Arkansas 27-17 in the 4th. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 13,763 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/17/2022 10:41:04 PM  Pataskala wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: And BG just takes down marshall!! On any given Saturday.... Southern Illinois has done what no MAC team has done this season -- beaten a "P". They took down Northwestern by 7. Oh, and Missouri State leads #10 Arkansas 27-17 in the 4th. It's true that the MAC has not beaten a "P team" yet this year, but to be fair Vandy was on the ropes at NIU until the unfortunate Lombardi injury. WMU has played a good game against Pitt, but Pitt is fired up to get revenge over last year's defeat by WMU, which for much of the season last year was their only defeat. Last Edited: 9/17/2022 10:41:21 PM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,517 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 8:15:58 AM  Now that a MAC "bottom feeder" beat high-flying Marshall, and another perennial weakling, EMU, beat a PAC 12 team, maybe the entire premise of this thread is off base. Back to Top El Gato Roberto General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,043 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 8:53:41 AM  SBH wrote: Now that a MAC "bottom feeder" beat high-flying Marshall, and another perennial weakling, EMU, beat a PAC 12 team, maybe the entire premise of this thread is off base. It was the dose of reality I needed. I’m back at the green Kool-Ade Bar. Bring on Fordham! "The name's Ohio University, but everybody calls me Ohio. Any of you guys call me Ohio U, and I'll kill you." Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 13,763 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 9:30:16 AM  SBH wrote: Now that a MAC "bottom feeder" beat high-flying Marshall, and another perennial weakling, EMU, beat a PAC 12 team, maybe the entire premise of this thread is off base. +1 The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 8,973 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 10:53:48 AM  The Sun Belt came back to earth this week with bupkis vs "P" teams and losses to BG (T'erd) and Rice (Louisiana). They still have the most wins vs "P"s but their G5 record isn't so good anymore. Here's the OOC summary: AAC 17-13 (1-10 vs “P”; 8-2 vs G5; 8-1 vs 1AA/FCS) CUSA 15-17 (0-7 vs “P”; 7-9 vs G5; 8-1 vs 1AA/FCS) MAC 12-22 (1-15 vs “P”; 3-5 vs G5; 8-2 vs 1AA/FCS) MWC 16-18 (1-14 vs “P”; 6-2 vs G5; 9-2 vs 1AA/FCS) SBC 20-19 (3-11 vs “P”; 7-8 vs G5; 10-0 vs 1AA/FCS) We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 8,973 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 12:10:15 PM  I was wondering why BG had its homecoming day so early. They have two home games in mid-October, vs Buffalo and MOFO. But instead of homecoming, they have a bigger draw for those games -- Oct 8 is Josh Harris Bobblehead Day and Oct 15 is Kory Lichtensteiger Bobblehead Day. Maybe we should have some bobbleheads for midweek MACtion games. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 13,763 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 6:46:52 PM  Pataskala wrote: I was wondering why BG had its homecoming day so early. They have two home games in mid-October, vs Buffalo and MOFO. But instead of homecoming, they have a bigger draw for those games -- Oct 8 is Josh Harris Bobblehead Day and Oct 15 is Kory Lichtensteiger Bobblehead Day. Maybe we should have some bobbleheads for midweek MACtion games. Bobbleheads I'd like to see: TJ Carrie Frank Solich Dion Byrum Todd Snyder Bill Hess There are others, of course, but those are the first that come to mind. Well, there is one other that comes to mind, but will probably never happen, for obvious reasons -- Cleve Bryant, the player, as distinct, for more than one reason, from Cleve Bryant the coach. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,563 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 7:24:58 PM  Not pining for a Vince Costello bobblehead, OCF? Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 13,763 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/18/2022 8:28:35 PM  bobcatsquared wrote: Not pining for a Vince Costello bobblehead, OCF? Yes, I said that there were others, and Vince would certainly be a good candidate. Problem is that the AD's office doesn't even know he ever existed, as they left him off the printed programs (remember those archaic things?) when they used to list "Bobcats in the NFL." It's a new administration now, so maybe they've figured out that he was once a Bobcat. BTW, Vince passed away at the age of 87 in 2019. RIP! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,563 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/19/2022 6:30:12 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: bobcatsquared wrote: Not pining for a Vince Costello bobblehead, OCF? Yes, I said that there were others, and Vince would certainly be a good candidate. Problem is that the AD's office doesn't even know he ever existed, as they left him off the printed programs (remember those archaic things?) when they used to list "Bobcats in the NFL." It's a new administration now, so maybe they've figured out that he was once a Bobcat. BTW, Vince passed away at the age of 87 in 2019. RIP! That was too easy!! Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 696 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/19/2022 8:01:13 AM  bobcatsquared wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: bobcatsquared wrote: Not pining for a Vince Costello bobblehead, OCF? Yes, I said that there were others, and Vince would certainly be a good candidate. Problem is that the AD's office doesn't even know he ever existed, as they left him off the printed programs (remember those archaic things?) when they used to list "Bobcats in the NFL." It's a new administration now, so maybe they've figured out that he was once a Bobcat. BTW, Vince passed away at the age of 87 in 2019. RIP! That was too easy!! I’m with you OCF. I’ve never understood why he’s received little to no recognition by the university athletics department over the years. It can be argued that he was the best and most impactful former Bobcat ever to play in the NFL. My personal opinion is it’s not much of an argument. Its akin to mentioning the best NBA players who are former Bobcats and leaving out Gary Trent. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,735 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/22/2022 10:38:14 AM  https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/ut/2022/09/21/briggs-f... Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,404 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/23/2022 1:22:03 PM  By the way, seen much from athletics about Canadian Hall of Famer Chip Cox??? "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: The Sad Man on the Right Post Count: 1,583 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 9/23/2022 3:52:09 PM  Nothing absent grammatical errors. Back to Top AlumDadDad General User Member Since: 10/18/2015 Post Count: 433 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/12/2022 10:15:06 PM  Seems like a good time to bump this. Watching the Marshall/Louisiana game tonight. Unremarkable, pedestrian, sloppy, beatable all come to mind. MAC hasn't been lapped. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 3,981 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 7:57:37 AM  AlumDadDad wrote: Seems like a good time to bump this. Watching the Marshall/Louisiana game tonight. Unremarkable, pedestrian, sloppy, beatable all come to mind. MAC hasn't been lapped. Marshall looks pretty bad. I Don know what’s happened there but it’s not good. By the way, I noticed in the game write up that Louisiana has 11 takeaways this year. Wish we had that. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,517 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 10:34:44 AM  Both teams looked bad, and the environment was hardly electric. Back to Top Urban Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/14/2007 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 756 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 11:23:18 AM  The MAC's football teams are scrimmage fodder for the P5 schools. BUT not good enough to be bowl fodder for P5 teams that made a bowl, because they played MAC teams. Suppose that defines G5 conferences in a nutshell. Last Edited: 10/13/2022 11:23:46 AM by Urban Bobcat URBAN BOBCAT Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 8,948 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 12:31:28 PM  SBH wrote: Both teams looked bad, and the environment was hardly electric. The thunder storms provided the electric! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,642 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 12:59:58 PM  Urban Bobcat wrote: The MAC's football teams are scrimmage fodder for the P5 schools. BUT not good enough to be bowl fodder for P5 teams that made a bowl, because they played MAC teams. Suppose that defines G5 conferences in a nutshell. When the bowls actually meant something, it was fine. I don't hate the bowl system as much as I hate how many there are that completely water down the point of postseason play. Extra practices and once in a lifetime experiences are great for the team, but for the fans they stink. The old bowl system was the best alternative to not having a playoff in place that could/would include the G5. If your conference champ was guaranteed a bowl game against a P5 school, it would be fine. But now even the conference champ just plays against a peer program, more or less. An expanded playoff hopefully fixes this, but if not, I think they should change the water mark for bowl eligibility to at least eight wins. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 9,819 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/13/2022 5:45:12 PM  GoCats105 wrote: ... An expanded playoff hopefully fixes this, but if not, I think they should change the water mark for bowl eligibility to at least eight wins. Bowls are sponsored by cities to promote tourism. Note that the lowest tier bowl games don't generate the same attendance, however, so there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't see a lot of cities with bowl games that desire to halt them, so I don't see them reducing the number of bowl teams. On the other hand, I don't see a flood of cities applying to host bowls, so I don't think we will move the other way (even more schools going to bowls), either. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 3,981 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/14/2022 6:43:11 AM  L.C. wrote: GoCats105 wrote: ... An expanded playoff hopefully fixes this, but if not, I think they should change the water mark for bowl eligibility to at least eight wins. Bowls are sponsored by cities to promote tourism. Note that the lowest tier bowl games don't generate the same attendance, however, so there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't see a lot of cities with bowl games that desire to halt them, so I don't see them reducing the number of bowl teams. On the other hand, I don't see a flood of cities applying to host bowls, so I don't think we will move the other way (even more schools going to bowls), either. It seems to me that the an important driver now is the need of ESPN and others to help fill the live TV schedule. The attendance seems to me to be dropping, even for the bigger bowls. Thinking back to 2 bowls that I attended in St Pete and New Orleans, the attendance seemed abysmal, but I guess it had some value for the local economy. Somebody had to lose money on the t shirts that were made for the bowl with Troy and Ohio on them. I doubt they sold 20 of those. Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,442 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/14/2022 9:41:51 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: L.C. wrote: GoCats105 wrote: ... An expanded playoff hopefully fixes this, but if not, I think they should change the water mark for bowl eligibility to at least eight wins. Bowls are sponsored by cities to promote tourism. Note that the lowest tier bowl games don't generate the same attendance, however, so there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't see a lot of cities with bowl games that desire to halt them, so I don't see them reducing the number of bowl teams. On the other hand, I don't see a flood of cities applying to host bowls, so I don't think we will move the other way (even more schools going to bowls), either. It seems to me that the an important driver now is the need of ESPN and others to help fill the live TV schedule. The attendance seems to me to be dropping, even for the bigger bowls. Thinking back to 2 bowls that I attended in St Pete and New Orleans, the attendance seemed abysmal, but I guess it had some value for the local economy. Somebody had to lose money on the t shirts that were made for the bowl with Troy and Ohio on them. I doubt they sold 20 of those. A lot of the bowls (especially the lower tier bowls) are outright owned by ESPN. I’m sure they have local bowl committees using them to either promote tourism or business, but the tourism is definitely a secondary (or even tertiary) concern for ESPN owned games Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,642 Status: Offline     RE: How did the Sunbelt “lap” the MAC    Posted: 10/14/2022 11:18:38 AM  mf279801 wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: L.C. wrote: GoCats105 wrote: ... An expanded playoff hopefully fixes this, but if not, I think they should change the water mark for bowl eligibility to at least eight wins. Bowls are sponsored by cities to promote tourism. Note that the lowest tier bowl games don't generate the same attendance, however, so there is a point of diminishing returns. I don't see a lot of cities with bowl games that desire to halt them, so I don't see them reducing the number of bowl teams. On the other hand, I don't see a flood of cities applying to host bowls, so I don't think we will move the other way (even more schools going to bowls), either. It seems to me that the an important driver now is the need of ESPN and others to help fill the live TV schedule. The attendance seems to me to be dropping, even for the bigger bowls. Thinking back to 2 bowls that I attended in St Pete and New Orleans, the attendance seemed abysmal, but I guess it had some value for the local economy. Somebody had to lose money on the t shirts that were made for the bowl with Troy and Ohio on them. I doubt they sold 20 of those. A lot of the bowls (especially the lower tier bowls) are outright owned by ESPN. I’m sure they have local bowl committees using them to either promote tourism or business, but the tourism is definitely a secondary (or even tertiary) concern for ESPN owned games And this is the inherent problem. Because ESPN controls the bowl system, but the NCAA makes the rules on bowl eligibility. And the NCAA like the money greedy w*ores that they are aren't going to turn down extra money in their pocket, even if they don't even control their own sport's top level playoff. If the NCAA changed the standard for bowl eligibility, you could get rid of at least 10 bowls right now, but they're never going to do that. Or get rid of them completely with a playoff system similar to the FCS or lower divisions. 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