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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 3/1/2023 4:09:50 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Here's where the university is not smart.

https://www.ohio.edu/student-affairs/parents/ohio-family-...

Parents weekend is set for September 8-10. But the football team is playing at FAU that weekend. With it being a non conference game, I imagine this date has been on the books for a few years. So we're going to have Parents weekend with no BIG campus event? Do the department of student affairs and the athletics department not communicate with one another?

This five-Saturday home slate offers an opportunity to capitalize on extra audience for every game if the university had some more forward thinking. What about this?

LIU: Band Day
Iowa State: P5 team in town, should be a big crowd anyway
Kent State: Homecoming
Western Michigan: Parents Weekend
Miami: Halloween - each student gets one guest in free as long as that guest has a valid college ID





From a revenue standpoint, hosting parents weekend on an off football weekend actually makes more sense for the city of Athens. I wonder if that's part of the thinking.


You'll have to explain that one to me. Without a game, many students, whose parents just dropped them off 14 days earlier, aren't going to have their parents coming to town.

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   Posted: 3/1/2023 6:18:51 PM 
Pete Chouteau wrote:


Third thought: Hey, why doesn't ESPN want us 4 times?



When you look at starting it a week late or ending it a week early probably half the teams or more don't play 4 mid-week games. The last time we didn't, if my quick research is correct, was 2014, excluding 2020. That's 7 years in a row. So the odds of that happening at random are about the same as getting seven head in a row on a coin flip or maybe even worse. That's less than a 1% chance. So I was beginning to wonder if ESPN wanted us or if we wanted Tuesday and Wednesday games.

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 7:18:47 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Here's where the university is not smart.

https://www.ohio.edu/student-affairs/parents/ohio-family-...

Parents weekend is set for September 8-10. But the football team is playing at FAU that weekend. With it being a non conference game, I imagine this date has been on the books for a few years. So we're going to have Parents weekend with no BIG campus event? Do the department of student affairs and the athletics department not communicate with one another?

This five-Saturday home slate offers an opportunity to capitalize on extra audience for every game if the university had some more forward thinking. What about this?

LIU: Band Day
Iowa State: P5 team in town, should be a big crowd anyway
Kent State: Homecoming
Western Michigan: Parents Weekend
Miami: Halloween - each student gets one guest in free as long as that guest has a valid college ID





From a revenue standpoint, hosting parents weekend on an off football weekend actually makes more sense for the city of Athens. I wonder if that's part of the thinking.


You'll have to explain that one to me. Without a game, many students, whose parents just dropped them off 14 days earlier, aren't going to have their parents coming to town.



You'll have to provide me the same evidence that the secret draw of parents weekend was Ohio football. When I was there, lots of parents came. None that I knew went to the football game.

From a revenue standpoint, hotel rooms and restaurants fill up from football games. Each home game is a reliable weekend of spending.

By hosting parents weekend on on off weekend, you create a new new weekend of spending.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 8:38:24 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
[QUOTE=shabamon] Here's where the university is not smart.

https://www.ohio.edu/student-affairs/parents/ohio-family-...

Parents weekend is set for September 8-10. But the football team is playing at FAU that weekend. With it being a non conference game, I imagine this date has been on the books for a few years. So we're going to have Parents weekend with no BIG campus event? Do the department of student affairs and the athletics department not communicate with one another?

This five-Saturday home slate offers an opportunity to capitalize on extra audience for every game if the university had some more forward thinking. What about this?

LIU: Band Day
Iowa State: P5 team in town, should be a big crowd anyway
Kent State: Homecoming
Western Michigan: Parents Weekend
Miami: Halloween - each student gets one guest in free as long as that guest has a valid college ID

[/QUOTE



From a revenue standpoint, hosting parents weekend on an off football weekend actually makes more sense for the city of Athens. I wonder if that's part of the thinking.


You'll have to explain that one to me. Without a game, many students, whose parents just dropped them off 14 days earlier, aren't going to have their parents coming to town.



You'll have to provide me the same evidence that the secret draw of parents weekend was Ohio football. When I was there, lots of parents came. None that I knew went to the football game.

From a revenue standpoint, hotel rooms and restaurants fill up from football games. Each home game is a reliable weekend of spending.

By hosting parents weekend on on off weekend, you create a new new weekend of spending.


Didn't say it was a secret draw but it is something to do with your parents when they come to town only two weeks after dropping you off. It will be impossible to prove but I would bet that more parents would come if there was a game that if there wasn't. On the athletics department side, not having a parents weekend game is clearly a hit on revenue for the department.

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 10:34:08 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:

Didn't say it was a secret draw but it is something to do with your parents when they come to town only two weeks after dropping you off. It will be impossible to prove but I would bet that more parents would come if there was a game that if there wasn't. On the athletics department side, not having a parents weekend game is clearly a hit on revenue for the department.


May well be.

I think the relevant question from a revenue standpoint is whether you net more visitors and spend in Athens by coupling parents weekend with a football game, or separating the two. How much excess capacity at Peden are we suggesting would be filled by parents? What are there -- 2000 empty seats? I would hope that's a drop in the bucket relative to what parents weekend draws independently.

My sense of it is the objective should be to fill the calendar with as many reasons to attract visitors to Athens as possible.
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   Posted: 3/2/2023 10:52:14 AM 
Reminds me of why no wrestling companies ever put the world title belt around the waist of Andre the Giant. It wasn't because his waist was too big for the belt. Instead, they figured he alone sold tickets to live events as does the world title holder. Why waist one of those draws by combining them with one wrestler?
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   Posted: 3/2/2023 12:38:18 PM 
Victory wrote:
.... But I also think what you want to avoid is playing on short rest, especially when your opponent isn't. We go Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday for MACtion. That helps a little too. There is no Wednesday then Tuesday which I am sure has happened to a couple of teams even though I haven't looked to see who.
...

Besides being good for Ohio in this regards, this is a very fair MAC schedule for all MAC teams. Six teams have no short week (Kent, Miami, Ohio, CMU, NIU, and WMU). Four teams have a single game that is on 6 days rest, but against an opponent also on a six day week (Akron-EMU and BG-Toledo will be on a six day week for all teams). Only two teams will play on a six day week against an opponent on a seven day week, those been Buffalo (against EMU) and Ball State (against NIU). Even better, no teams play on a 5 day week, ever.

Kudos to the MAC for their scheduling. I hope they have finally figured out how to do this, and can be this fair to everyone from now on.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 1:39:05 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Reminds me of why no wrestling companies ever put the world title belt around the waist of Andre the Giant. It wasn't because his waist was too big for the belt. Instead, they figured he alone sold tickets to live events as does the world title holder. Why waist one of those draws by combining them with one wrestler?


The spelling pun of the year post.

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 1:42:09 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Reminds me of why no wrestling companies ever put the world title belt around the waist of Andre the Giant. It wasn't because his waist was too big for the belt. Instead, they figured he alone sold tickets to live events as does the world title holder. Why waist one of those draws by combining them with one wrestler?


The spelling pun of the year post.



Do you think it was intentional?


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   Posted: 3/2/2023 1:43:21 PM 
shabamon wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio has the ultimate DREAM schedule in the MAC! Holy $hit is this a favorable format for the Bobcats. I can't recall ever seeing this favorable of a schedule format ever for Ohio! Look at these bullet points::

- Ohio does not play an away game at a Power Five school (every other team does, some even multiple times).
- Ohio only plays one Power Five school and it's a home game (Ohio is the only MAC team that will host a Power Five school).
- Ohio has not one but two byes in the conference schedule (no other MAC team has two).
- Ohio does not have to play consecutive away games at any point during the season (every other MAC school has consecutive road games, some even multiple times).

I mean, the carpet isn't just laid out for Ohio back to Detroit, the limo has all but picked the Bobcats up already and has them standing out in front of Ford Field with this schedule! It's ridiculously beneficial for Ohio. I mean, our own AD couldn't have designed a better schedule layout than this! This is incredible!!!


I'll throw on even more.

-Ohio's last two games are against teams that together went 6-18 in 2022
-Ohio will not play any game on less than a full week's rest


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   Posted: 3/2/2023 2:09:08 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Victory wrote:
.... But I also think what you want to avoid is playing on short rest, especially when your opponent isn't. We go Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday for MACtion. That helps a little too. There is no Wednesday then Tuesday which I am sure has happened to a couple of teams even though I haven't looked to see who.
...

Besides being good for Ohio in this regards, this is a very fair MAC schedule for all MAC teams. Six teams have no short week (Kent, Miami, Ohio, CMU, NIU, and WMU). Four teams have a single game that is on 6 days rest, but against an opponent also on a six day week (Akron-EMU and BG-Toledo will be on a six day week for all teams). Only two teams will play on a six day week against an opponent on a seven day week, those been Buffalo (against EMU) and Ball State (against NIU). Even better, no teams play on a 5 day week, ever.

Kudos to the MAC for their scheduling. I hope they have finally figured out how to do this, and can be this fair to everyone from now on.


Yes, I always thought this was very possible to achieve. I wonder if ESPN stepped in at times and made it a lot more difficult.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2023 Schedule
   Posted: 3/2/2023 2:19:09 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio has the ultimate DREAM schedule in the MAC! Holy $hit is this a favorable format for the Bobcats. I can't recall ever seeing this favorable of a schedule format ever for Ohio! Look at these bullet points::

- Ohio does not play an away game at a Power Five school (every other team does, some even multiple times).
- Ohio only plays one Power Five school and it's a home game (Ohio is the only MAC team that will host a Power Five school).
- Ohio has not one but two byes in the conference schedule (no other MAC team has two).
- Ohio does not have to play consecutive away games at any point during the season (every other MAC school has consecutive road games, some even multiple times).

I mean, the carpet isn't just laid out for Ohio back to Detroit, the limo has all but picked the Bobcats up already and has them standing out in front of Ford Field with this schedule! It's ridiculously beneficial for Ohio. I mean, our own AD couldn't have designed a better schedule layout than this! This is incredible!!!


I'll throw on even more.

-Ohio's last two games are against teams that together went 6-18 in 2022
-Ohio will not play any game on less than a full week's rest


Stars are aligning, gentleman. The stars are aligning.


Sheesh. CMU is on the schedule and they own us. We play @ Buffalo, which is a house of horrors. If NIU stays healthy this year, they'll be much better and we're at their place. Schedule is fan friendly but hardly a formula for an easy repeat. and every year after an East title has been a big letdown generally. Maybe we can end multiple jinxes this year, but who knows.
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   Posted: 3/2/2023 3:48:27 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio has the ultimate DREAM schedule in the MAC! Holy $hit is this a favorable format for the Bobcats. I can't recall ever seeing this favorable of a schedule format ever for Ohio! Look at these bullet points::

- Ohio does not play an away game at a Power Five school (every other team does, some even multiple times).
- Ohio only plays one Power Five school and it's a home game (Ohio is the only MAC team that will host a Power Five school).
- Ohio has not one but two byes in the conference schedule (no other MAC team has two).
- Ohio does not have to play consecutive away games at any point during the season (every other MAC school has consecutive road games, some even multiple times).

I mean, the carpet isn't just laid out for Ohio back to Detroit, the limo has all but picked the Bobcats up already and has them standing out in front of Ford Field with this schedule! It's ridiculously beneficial for Ohio. I mean, our own AD couldn't have designed a better schedule layout than this! This is incredible!!!


I'll throw on even more.

-Ohio's last two games are against teams that together went 6-18 in 2022
-Ohio will not play any game on less than a full week's rest


Stars are aligning, gentleman. The stars are aligning.


Sheesh. CMU is on the schedule and they own us. We play @ Buffalo, which is a house of horrors. If NIU stays healthy this year, they'll be much better and we're at their place. Schedule is fan friendly but hardly a formula for an easy repeat. and every year after an East title has been a big letdown generally. Maybe we can end multiple jinxes this year, but who knows.


Your biggest fears are beating teams that had a combined 14 wins.

Stars are aligning.
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   Posted: 3/2/2023 8:06:50 PM 
Akron has a very good coach, and they improved a lot from the beginning of the year to the end. Ohio was the only MAC game where Akron lost by much. I expect Akron to be much better this fall, and in the top half of the MAC. The final game will be no gimmee.


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   Posted: 3/3/2023 8:53:55 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio has the ultimate DREAM schedule in the MAC! Holy $hit is this a favorable format for the Bobcats. I can't recall ever seeing this favorable of a schedule format ever for Ohio! Look at these bullet points::

- Ohio does not play an away game at a Power Five school (every other team does, some even multiple times).
- Ohio only plays one Power Five school and it's a home game (Ohio is the only MAC team that will host a Power Five school).
- Ohio has not one but two byes in the conference schedule (no other MAC team has two).
- Ohio does not have to play consecutive away games at any point during the season (every other MAC school has consecutive road games, some even multiple times).

I mean, the carpet isn't just laid out for Ohio back to Detroit, the limo has all but picked the Bobcats up already and has them standing out in front of Ford Field with this schedule! It's ridiculously beneficial for Ohio. I mean, our own AD couldn't have designed a better schedule layout than this! This is incredible!!!


I'll throw on even more.

-Ohio's last two games are against teams that together went 6-18 in 2022
-Ohio will not play any game on less than a full week's rest


Stars are aligning, gentleman. The stars are aligning.


Sheesh. CMU is on the schedule and they own us. We play @ Buffalo, which is a house of horrors. If NIU stays healthy this year, they'll be much better and we're at their place. Schedule is fan friendly but hardly a formula for an easy repeat. and every year after an East title has been a big letdown generally. Maybe we can end multiple jinxes this year, but who knows.


Your biggest fears are beating teams that had a combined 14 wins.

Stars are aligning.


this is a gross oversimplification. After all, based on 2021, we should have been a pushover for anyone in 2022, right?

Last Edited: 3/3/2023 8:54:17 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat

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   Posted: 3/3/2023 12:55:01 PM 
The above statement is correct. NI went winless in the conference the year before they won the MAC a couple of seasons ago. Ohio was 3-5 in 2021 in the league, but ended up 7-1 and with the best overall record in the conference during the regular season in 2022. Toledo will be picked to win the West again in 2023, but most conference schools are pretty even, especially when the transfer portal is considered.

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   Posted: 3/5/2023 1:24:12 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The above statement is correct. NI went winless in the conference the year before they won the MAC a couple of seasons ago. Ohio was 3-5 in 2021 in the league, but ended up 7-1 and with the best overall record in the conference during the regular season in 2022. Toledo will be picked to win the West again in 2023, but most conference schools are pretty even, especially when the transfer portal is considered.


I think Toledo will be a near unanimous pick to win the conference and not just the West. But you would have said the same thing Northern Illinois after the 2021 season when they had most contributors back. We saw what happened to the 2022 Huskies. But that was also a team that was affected by injuries in a way that happens maybe once in a generation. They probably think of 2022 the way we think of 2012. I agree with the notion that they should be one of the best teams in the MAC and there is a good chance we will be an underdog on the road.

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   Posted: 5/23/2023 5:36:59 PM 
Does anybody know why we're perennially starting MAC play on the road? Russ complained about last season making 11(?) straight years that we opened MAC play on the road, and sure enough here we are again this season starting at BG. I'm not sure if it matters much but you'd think the law of averages would get us a home opener in MAC play at least once a decade. (My eyesight isn't very good these days, so I just skim over the longer posts and threads. If this has already been discussed, I apologize.)


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   Posted: 5/23/2023 5:51:39 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio has the ultimate DREAM schedule in the MAC! Holy $hit is this a favorable format for the Bobcats. I can't recall ever seeing this favorable of a schedule format ever for Ohio! Look at these bullet points::

- Ohio does not play an away game at a Power Five school (every other team does, some even multiple times).
- Ohio only plays one Power Five school and it's a home game (Ohio is the only MAC team that will host a Power Five school).
- Ohio has not one but two byes in the conference schedule (no other MAC team has two).
- Ohio does not have to play consecutive away games at any point during the season (every other MAC school has consecutive road games, some even multiple times).

I mean, the carpet isn't just laid out for Ohio back to Detroit, the limo has all but picked the Bobcats up already and has them standing out in front of Ford Field with this schedule! It's ridiculously beneficial for Ohio. I mean, our own AD couldn't have designed a better schedule layout than this! This is incredible!!!


I'll throw on even more.

-Ohio's last two games are against teams that together went 6-18 in 2022
-Ohio will not play any game on less than a full week's rest


Stars are aligning, gentleman. The stars are aligning.


Sheesh. CMU is on the schedule and they own us. We play @ Buffalo, which is a house of horrors. If NIU stays healthy this year, they'll be much better and we're at their place. Schedule is fan friendly but hardly a formula for an easy repeat. and every year after an East title has been a big letdown generally. Maybe we can end multiple jinxes this year, but who knows.


Your biggest fears are beating teams that had a combined 14 wins.

Stars are aligning.


OhioBobcat is that you?
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   Posted: 5/23/2023 7:22:25 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
Does anybody know why we're perennially starting MAC play on the road? Russ complained about last season making 11(?) straight years that we opened MAC play on the road, and sure enough here we are again this season starting at BG. I'm not sure if it matters much but you'd think the law of averages would get us a home opener in MAC play at least once a decade. (My eyesight isn't very good these days, so I just skim over the longer posts and threads. If this has already been discussed, I apologize.)


Probably because homecoming is almost always week 6, so we probably open the conference season on the road in week 5... most years. just a guess.
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   Posted: 5/23/2023 10:41:55 PM 
6-6
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   Posted: 5/24/2023 9:50:32 AM 
Casper71 wrote:
6-6


Is this OhioBobcat's evil twin?


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   Posted: 5/24/2023 2:45:46 PM 
OCF you know me. If I say 6-6 we will go 8-4. Let’s hope the defense comes through.
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   Posted: 5/24/2023 2:59:04 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
OCF you know me. If I say 6-6 we will go 8-4. Let’s hope the defense comes through.


Just kidding you, Casper71. But, I'm waiting for OhioBobcat to predict 14-0, including beating Wisconsin in a NY6 bowl. Personally, I think this team is going to be very good -- maybe 11-3 or 10-4 is possible.


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   Posted: 5/31/2023 3:58:15 PM 
https://ohiobobcats.com/news/2023/5/31/mac-announces-sele...

Game times are mostly set. Big news is the home game with Iowa State is a noon kick broadcast on ESPN2 or U.
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