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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/13/2023 11:12:34 AM 

Just looked at some more posts on CycloneFanatic. I had limited access to the other ISU boards because they require subscriptions.

The consensus now is that they will dominate us, and that our team is little more than a glorified UNI. One wag said that our defensive record was against the little sisters of the poor and should be discounted. Another opined that if they had any offensive issues in the game it would not be due to OHIO's defense but due to their patchwork offense (I suppose alluding to the shuffling due to the gambling scandal).

There were a few comments on Twitter X that went like this:

"Jon Heacock says that Ohio will be the 'steepest' competition his team has played against this year, citing the Bobcats' scheme and amount of returning starters & veterans on the team."

This was quickly followed by comments like these:

"Ohio is horrible. Lost to a bad SDS team and only beat Long Island & Florida Atlantic. Cyclones should win easily, although it was stupid to play this game on the road."

"Coach speak. If Ohio scores 10 on offense our defense is questionable. If the offense scores less than 20, they are a weakness."

Then an Iowa fan taunted them with this:

"Yall playing a road game against a DIII opponent?"

The general tone among the Cyclone faithful, as L.C. documented earlier, is that this will be a walk in the park and that the only reason they are playing in Athens is to help with the recruiting of Ohio high school players.

Let's hope some of this can end up on the locker room walls in Peden!

Last Edited: 9/13/2023 11:20:18 AM by OhioCatFan

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/13/2023 11:23:26 AM 
As I said in the other thread: They know nothing, but let's hope they're not right in spite of themselves.

Last Edited: 9/13/2023 1:32:58 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/13/2023 11:40:12 AM 
Iowa State is on speed dial with Syracuse, Pitt, Indiana, Kansas, and Mizzou when G5 teams want to host a P5. Do those fans know who they are? They've visited Akron, Toledo, and Tulsa in the last decade.

As for that Iowa fan, I don't think any fanbase whose team has lost to an FCS opponent in the not too distant past has any space to scoff at "lesser" levels of college sports.

Complete ignorance of what happens in a college sports season and you see it every year from P5 fans. As if an upset doesn't happen every week. "No, not us! That could never happen to us. Didn't you hear?? We're IOWA STATE!"
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/13/2023 11:42:49 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
... Let's hope some of this can end up on the locker room walls in Peden!

There are always fans that say stupid, disrespectful things. You can find plenty of that on BA as well. What ends up on the locker room walls is when opposing player or coaches say disrespectful things. An example that comes to mind for me was when a video came out in the week before the Ohio-Penn State game of Bill O'Brien preparing for the Bobcats.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/13/2023 11:48:04 AM 
shabamon wrote:
Iowa State is on speed dial with Syracuse, Pitt, Indiana, Kansas, and Mizzou when G5 teams want to host a P5. Do those fans know who they are? They've visited Akron, Toledo, and Tulsa in the last decade.

As for that Iowa fan, I don't think any fanbase whose team has lost to an FCS opponent in the not too distant past has any space to scoff at "lesser" levels of college sports.

Complete ignorance of what happens in a college sports season and you see it every year from P5 fans. As if an upset doesn't happen every week. "No, not us! That could never happen to us. Didn't you hear?? We're IOWA STATE!"


Reminds me of joke that friend of mine in Columbus, a big BuckNut, played on me the year that Toledo beat Michigan. The week of the Michigan game, which was in Columbus that year, he called me on the phone with an excited voice,

"Did you hear that they had to cancel the Michigan game?"

Me, "No, you got to be kidding."

"Yes, it's true, the Michigan team bus is stuck on the road, they couldn't get past Toledo."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/15/2023 3:36:05 PM 
I can at least respect an opinion like this:

Why I hate these games w/ a passion.

~There is ZERO residual net value playing a MAC team on the road
~ Why spend $$ to travel to a 18,000 attended game?
~ There is ZERO national appeal
~ Losing a devastating possibility......We're 3-pt favorites?
~ Recruiting a 3-star while in Ohio worth this?
~ Lost $revenue for the city of Ames, for the university
~ Giving up a home game @Trice for a MAC away game, makes ZERO sense

memo to Jamie:
1) Pay$$ the g#d-damn MAC team to play in Ames--
-We should NEVER have a home & home series w/ the MAC or any other non P5 school
2) Seven home games in Ames helps recruiting
3) Start acting like a P5 team. good lord..

I loathe Iowa, but I respect their arrogance in this.
They ALWAYS have 7 home games....and would never stoop so low to travel to Athens, Ohio
In fact, Iowa not only schedules 7 home games annually, they have (2) more I consider 'neutral' sites this season:
Ames--via proximity and recent success
Wrigley Field vs N/Western.
In 2023, Iowa has 7 home games, 2 neutral site games, and only THREE legitimate road games

Pay the fking teams to come to Ames, Jamie
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/15/2023 3:46:03 PM 
shabamon wrote:
I can at least respect an opinion like this:

Why I hate these games w/ a passion.

~There is ZERO residual net value playing a MAC team on the road
~ Why spend $$ to travel to a 18,000 attended game?
~ There is ZERO national appeal
~ Losing a devastating possibility......We're 3-pt favorites?
~ Recruiting a 3-star while in Ohio worth this?
~ Lost $revenue for the city of Ames, for the university
~ Giving up a home game @Trice for a MAC away game, makes ZERO sense

memo to Jamie:
1) Pay$$ the g#d-damn MAC team to play in Ames--
-We should NEVER have a home & home series w/ the MAC or any other non P5 school
2) Seven home games in Ames helps recruiting
3) Start acting like a P5 team. good lord..

I loathe Iowa, but I respect their arrogance in this.
They ALWAYS have 7 home games....and would never stoop so low to travel to Athens, Ohio
In fact, Iowa not only schedules 7 home games annually, they have (2) more I consider 'neutral' sites this season:
Ames--via proximity and recent success
Wrigley Field vs N/Western.
In 2023, Iowa has 7 home games, 2 neutral site games, and only THREE legitimate road games

Pay the fking teams to come to Ames, Jamie


Meh. whoever wrote this sounds like a whiny little bitch. You don't get to just never go on the road.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/15/2023 5:08:50 PM 
As an Iowa fan and Ohio graduate ...

* Iowa played in Oxford in 2002. Managed a 29-24 win

* Pollard did't want to pay $2.5 million for Ohio to return to Ames this year. You can argue one home game would make up the difference but I understand Ohio wouldn't pack Trice after ANOTHER loss to Iowa

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/io... /

* I hope the 'Cats rise up and beat Inferior State. Not expecting it but will be disappointed with a showing like last year in Ames

* Inferior State has never won 10 games in a season. That always makes me laugh

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/15/2023 5:18:19 PM 
shabamon wrote:
I can at least respect an opinion like this:

Why I hate these games w/ a passion.

~There is ZERO residual net value playing a MAC team on the road
~ Why spend $$ to travel to a 18,000 attended game?
~ There is ZERO national appeal
~ Losing a devastating possibility......We're 3-pt favorites?
~ Recruiting a 3-star while in Ohio worth this?
~ Lost $revenue for the city of Ames, for the university
~ Giving up a home game @Trice for a MAC away game, makes ZERO sense

memo to Jamie:
1) Pay$$ the g#d-damn MAC team to play in Ames--
-We should NEVER have a home & home series w/ the MAC or any other non-P5 school
2) Seven home games in Ames help recruiting
3) Start acting like a P5 team. good lord..

I loathe Iowa, but I respect their arrogance in this.
They ALWAYS have 7 home games....and would never stoop so low to travel to Athens, Ohio

In fact, Iowa not only schedules 7 home games annually, they have (2) more I consider 'neutral' sites this season:
Ames--via proximity and recent success
Wrigley Field vs N/Western.
In 2023, Iowa has 7 home games, 2 neutral site games, and only THREE legitimate road games

Pay the fking teams to come to Ames, Jamie



Not to go too deep into it but the only reason ISU is playing in Athens is that it is a return game on a home-and-home series. This isn't a new thing as ISU has played road games at Group of 5 schools before and will continue into the future as they already have an H/H set up with BGSU in 26/27.

Just look around CFB the next two weeks, Alabama is at USF this weekend, and it is the same situation, the back end of a home and home.

For Ohio, it is a rare thing becoming more popular in scheduling these days (H/H), Ohio has P5 teams in Cincinnati and WVU both set to visit Athens in the future and Syracuse has already come to Athens and Ohio will travel to NYC for a backend of that H/H.

The Game is on ESPN U - a national TV channel and nowadays everything is streamed and can be seen everywhere.

On the topic of recruiting - while it is harder to play games in areas where you recruit unlike some other sports where you can promise to play a game near a player's hometown, (football schedules are made 8-10 years out.) an example of this is that the Ohio field hockey team played in Maine to open the season and it was a game made during the recruiting process of two sisters from Maine. While the Bobcats football team recruits Flordia well, it is hard to tell recruits that they can get a game down there, so last week's trip to Florida was special for those guys.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/16/2023 6:34:11 PM 
Swagger has turned to stagger, as ISU fans are now uncertain what the rest of their season might look like. They figure that if they can't even beat Ohio, they won't win another game.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/16/2023 11:44:50 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Swagger has turned to stagger, as ISU fans are now uncertain what the rest of their season might look like. They figure that if they can't even beat Ohio, they won't win another game.


Kind of a turn about from last year when the defense struggled through the first four games, then gelled together to get to a 10-win season...if the offense can turn around (as I think it will), Katie, bar the door!

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/17/2023 9:02:46 PM 
Jeff Johnson wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Swagger has turned to stagger, as ISU fans are now uncertain what the rest of their season might look like. They figure that if they can't even beat Ohio, they won't win another game.


Kind of a turn about from last year when the defense struggled through the first four games, then gelled together to get to a 10-win season...if the offense can turn around (as I think it will), Katie, bar the door!


New system and lots of learning.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 7:30:24 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Swagger has turned to stagger, as ISU fans are now uncertain what the rest of their season might look like. They figure that if they can't even beat Ohio, they won't win another game.


Kind of a turn about from last year when the defense struggled through the first four games, then gelled together to get to a 10-win season...if the offense can turn around (as I think it will), Katie, bar the door!


New system and lots of learning.

I may be confused here, but are you saying that the offense has been slow this year because they put in a new system? Considering the success last year, and the fact that the key coaches are still the same, it's surprising to me that they would have made radical changes to the offensive system.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 9:44:32 AM 
Speaking for BTC might be the last thing I want to do, but I'm thinking he meant last year's defense. Not this year's offense.

Last Edited: 9/18/2023 9:44:47 AM by bobcatsquared
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 11:03:26 AM 

This kind of went viral on the ISU fan boards:

https://x.com/HawksChronicles/status/1703157743878541761?s=20

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 12:02:57 PM 
As L.C. said, swagger has turned to stagger. A number of posts on CycloneFanatic have asked, "When does basketball season start?" And, one even advocated dropping football and recognizing that ISU is really a basketball school. Sound familiar?

And, of course, there is now a thread about firing the coach, and a poll on the same subject. I can't see the results of the poll because one has to have an account, login and vote to see the results.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 2:21:13 PM 
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Swagger has turned to stagger, as ISU fans are now uncertain what the rest of their season might look like. They figure that if they can't even beat Ohio, they won't win another game.


Kind of a turn about from last year when the defense struggled through the first four games, then gelled together to get to a 10-win season...if the offense can turn around (as I think it will), Katie, bar the door!


New system and lots of learning.

I may be confused here, but are you saying that the offense has been slow this year because they put in a new system? Considering the success last year, and the fact that the key coaches are still the same, it's surprising to me that they would have made radical changes to the offensive system.


No the defense last year.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Iowa State Swagger
   Posted: 9/18/2023 4:54:30 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
No the defense last year.

OK, thanks. Really the mystery is why the offense has started so slowly. I attribute it partially to injuries, and partially to some good defenses.

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