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IceCat76
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   Posted: 1/11/2024 11:55:39 AM 
thehawg27 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Mike Coleman wrote:
Idaho OL Tijada Cisse (Oakland, CA) transfers to Ohio. Nice looking tape. Bright kid who had offers from Yale, Columbia and Princeton out of high school.



Imagine telling your parents you were turning down a scholarship to Yale to play FCS football in Idaho.


Problem is the Ivy League schools come with a giant price tag and no athletic scholarships. The ROI at those schools is off the chart but some kids can't afford them regardless of the "offer" that may have been presented.


A former coaching colleague of mine went on to coach at an Ivy League school. I had the opportunity to get to know the coaching staff and become familiar with the program. I can assure you with 99.9% certainty that any athlete the Ivies want won't have to say no because they can't afford it. The schools are dripping with money and concluding that a recruit has a "need" is routine for these guys.
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   Posted: 1/13/2024 11:50:32 AM 
IceCat76 wrote:
thehawg27 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Mike Coleman wrote:
Idaho OL Tijada Cisse (Oakland, CA) transfers to Ohio. Nice looking tape. Bright kid who had offers from Yale, Columbia and Princeton out of high school.



Imagine telling your parents you were turning down a scholarship to Yale to play FCS football in Idaho.


Problem is the Ivy League schools come with a giant price tag and no athletic scholarships. The ROI at those schools is off the chart but some kids can't afford them regardless of the "offer" that may have been presented.


A former coaching colleague of mine went on to coach at an Ivy League school. I had the opportunity to get to know the coaching staff and become familiar with the program. I can assure you with 99.9% certainty that any athlete the Ivies want won't have to say no because they can't afford it. The schools are dripping with money and concluding that a recruit has a "need" is routine for these guys.


Exactly! Most everyone here would be jaw dropped if they looked up what the average out of pocket is for the student that attends Harvard or Yale. You can also at for several Ivy educations before you pay for ONE OHIO education.
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   Posted: 1/13/2024 6:33:59 PM 
https://x.com/b_mc18/status/1746305911658823937?s=46&t=CN...
Another one and done but in a much needed department. DE
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   Posted: 1/13/2024 7:25:50 PM 
Cats5 wrote:
https://x.com/b_mc18/status/1746305911658823937?s=46&t=CN...
Another one and done but in a much needed department. DE


Ben McNaboe…..transfer from North Dakota and Minnesota….All Academic Big 10
while at Minnesota and Campbell Award finalist while at North Dakota.
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   Posted: 1/14/2024 1:26:27 PM 
Another one.

CJ Doggette Jr from Cincinnati. Listed as a DE. Three years of eligiblity left. Played HS ball at Pickerington Central

https://twitter.com/dawggette/status/1746595455260049766/...
https://twitter.com/dawggette/status/1746595381956292994/...
https://gobearcats.com/sports/football/roster/cj--doggett...
https://247sports.com/Player/cj-doggette-46098539/high-sc... /

Last Edited: 1/14/2024 1:30:06 PM by RufusCat09
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L.C.
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   Posted: 1/14/2024 1:49:10 PM 
Ohio now stands at 10 in, 18 out, so there we are far from done. I'm wondering if they will add another JUCO two this month to get away from having too many 1 and done players, which would mean doing this all over next year.

It will be interesting, come Spring practice, to see how well they have chosen. From what I have seen so far, I think they have added some guys that can play.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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   Posted: 1/14/2024 1:52:04 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Ohio now stands at 10 in, 18 out, so there we are far from done. I'm wondering if they will add another JUCO two this month to get away from having too many 1 and done players, which would mean doing this all over next year.

It will be interesting, come Spring practice, to see how well they have chosen. From what I have seen so far, I think they have added some guys that can play.


I'm counting 11 transfers in so far.

P5--> 2
G5 --> 2
FCS --> 5
D-II --> 1
JUCO --> 1

Gunnar Gundy - QB - Oklahoma State
Trent Allen - OL - Davenport University
Tigana Cisse - OL - University of Idaho
Jake Bruno - TE - St Francis University
Max Rodarte - WR - City College of San Francisco
Charles Ross - WR - San Jose State

Blake Leake - LB - Bucknell
Dustin Johnson - DB - Northern Colorado
Jacob Proche - CB - Coastal Carolina
Ben McNaboe - DE - North Dakota
CJ Doggette - DE/DT - Cincinnati

Last Edited: 1/14/2024 1:53:28 PM by RufusCat09
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   Posted: 1/14/2024 2:57:52 PM 
RufusCat09 wrote:

CJ Doggette - DE/DT - Cincinnati


Cecil Junior’s dad played for the Columbus Destroyers back in the day.

What’s really funny is he was listed at 5’8” 180.

CJ is 6’2” 280.

Mom must be as big as Aaron Donald.

Last Edited: 1/14/2024 3:00:17 PM by M.D.W.S.T
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L.C.
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   Posted: 1/14/2024 4:04:24 PM 
RufusCat09 wrote:
...I'm counting 11 transfers in so far.

P5 - 2
G5 - 2
FCS - 5
D-II - 1
JUCO - 1

I wasn't including JUCOs, but I agree, JUCO is another way to replace the players that left via the portal. Even then, the numbers are changing as we speak, with another addition, a LS from Charlotte.

Last Edited: 1/14/2024 4:07:12 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 1/14/2024 4:08:51 PM 
Here is an updated list:

Transfer Commits:
Blake Leake LB (Bucknell)
Dustin Johnson DB (Northern Colorado)
Jacob Proche CB (Coastal Carolina)
Ben Mcnaboe DE (North Dakota)
DJ Doggette Jr. DL (Cincinnati)

Tigana Cisse OL (Idaho)
Jake Bruno TE (St. Francis PA)
Charles Ross WR (San Jose St.)
Coleman Owen WR (Northern Arizona)
Anthony Tyus III RB (Northwestern)

Colby Garfield LS (ECU)
Jacob Lewis K (Minnesota)


Transferred Elsewhere:
Luke Murphy LB (Kent State)—>EMU
Kendren Smith CB (Penn)—>UVA
Elijah Metcalf WR (MTSU)—> Marshall
Charles Looes DL (Dartmouth)—>Rice
Nick Norris DL (Northern Colorado)—>Oregon State
Kris Davis DB (Southern)—>Houston
Keagen Trost OL (Indiana St.)—>Wake Forest
Reid Carrico LB (Ohio State)—>WVU
Ken Seals QB (Vanderbilt)—>TCU
DT Sheffield WR (WSU)—>North Texas
Parker McKenna LB (Portland St.)—>Washington State
Dylan Downing RB (Purdue)—>Miami Ohio
Tavion Woodard DE (Ball St.)—>Boise St.
Jaylon Jackson RB (EMU)—>Iowa State
Zach Marcheselli LB (TCU)—>Tulsa
Terez Traynor WR (Idaho)—>Tulane
Richard Toney Jr. DB (Nevada)—>TCU
Tellek Lockette OL (UL Monroe) —>Texas St.
Ryan Barnes DB (Notre Dame)—>UMASS
DJ Wesolak LB/DE (Missouri)—>Oregon State
Donovan Ollie WR (Cincinnati)—>Colorado St.
Siosifa Leota DE (North Texas) —>LA Tech

Still in Portal:

Last Edited: 1/30/2024 2:57:13 PM by MMGrad2022
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L.C.
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   Posted: 1/14/2024 7:09:01 PM 
The list of outstanding offers is interesting, especially when you compare outgoing portal players to incoming ones on a position by position basis:
QB - 1 out, 1 in
RB - 4 out, 0 in
WR - 4 out, 1 in, 2 remaining offers
TE - 3 out, 1 in
OL - 1 out, 2 in
DE - 1 out, 2 in, 2 remaining offers
LB - 2 out, 1 in
S - 1 out, 1 in, 1 remaining offer
CB - 1 out, 1 in
LS - 0 out, 1 in

In some cases, Ohio has taken in more players than they have lost (OL, DE). At the other extreme, there are several positions where Ohio has lost a lot of players, and doesn't seem to be adding more, notably RB and TE. At WR, they have lost more than they have taken in, but are still trying to add more. At TE they do have a couple of Freshmen coming in, Segarra and AJ Miller, so maybe they are confident with those, but at RB there is only one Freshman, Brune.

Edit- I Tried to update the above with graduations and incoming Freshmen, and I get:
QB - net 0: 1 out portal, 1 in portal
RB - net -3: 4 out portal, none in portal, no grad, 1 in freshman
WR - net 0: 4 out portal, 1 in portal 1 grad, 1 JUCO, 3 Freshmen
TE - net 0: 3 out portal, 1 in portal, no grad, 2 freshmen
OL - net +2: 1 out portal, 2 in portal, 2 grad, 3 freshmen
DE - net 0: 1 out portal, 2 in portal, 3 grad, 2 freshmen
DT - net -1: 1 grad
LB - net +1: 2 out portal, 1 in portal, 1 grad, 3 freshmen
S - net +2: 1 out portal, 1 in portal, 1 grad, 3 freshmen
CB - net -1: 1 out portal, 1 in portal, 1 grad, no freshmen
LS - net 0: 0 out portal, 1 in portal, 1 grad
P - net -1: 1 grad

Most of the positions seem to be in balance, though some, like WR, OL, TE, and LB will be a lot younger. The three places that I would welcome more from the portal (or additional JUCOs) are RB, DT, and CB.

Last Edited: 1/14/2024 8:11:22 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 1/15/2024 12:13:57 AM 
L.C. wrote:
RufusCat09 wrote:
...I'm counting 11 transfers in so far.

P5 - 2
G5 - 2
FCS - 5
D-II - 1
JUCO - 1

I wasn't including JUCOs, but I agree, JUCO is another way to replace the players that left via the portal. Even then, the numbers are changing as we speak, with another addition, a LS from Charlotte.

Technically a LS from East Carolina. He started out at Charlotte and made the all-CUSA freshman team before transferring to Charlotte. Charlotte actually beat East Carolina this year, 10-7. It sounds like he is tired of losing and lost the job at ECU. Grad transfer with two years left.

Last Edited: 1/15/2024 12:31:58 AM by WxM
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   Posted: 1/15/2024 9:41:01 AM 
WxM wrote:
L.C. wrote:
RufusCat09 wrote:
...I'm counting 11 transfers in so far.

P5 - 2
G5 - 2
FCS - 5
D-II - 1
JUCO - 1

I wasn't including JUCOs, but I agree, JUCO is another way to replace the players that left via the portal. Even then, the numbers are changing as we speak, with another addition, a LS from Charlotte.

Technically a LS from East Carolina. He started out at Charlotte and made the all-CUSA freshman team before transferring to Charlotte. Charlotte actually beat East Carolina this year, 10-7. It sounds like he is tired of losing and lost the job at ECU. Grad transfer with two years left.


A LONG SNAPPER?

Teams can't even keep a long snapper out of the portal. What a time to be alive.
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   Posted: 1/15/2024 10:43:42 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
A LONG SNAPPER?

Teams can't even keep a long snapper out of the portal. What a time to be alive.

It seems to me that Ohio has had long snappers before who were transfers, and I remember them finding one who wasn't even playing football. As it happens, Ohio's long snapper graduated, so they need a new one. They didn't recruit a Freshman for the position, so the portal provides an easy solution.

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   Posted: 1/15/2024 10:38:05 PM 
On3 has Torrie Cox Jr. returning to Ohio.
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   Posted: 1/15/2024 10:49:50 PM 
MMGrad2022 wrote:
On3 has Torrie Cox Jr. returning to Ohio.

Excellent news! As I said, the three positions I was hoping for additional players are RB, DT, and CB. What better corner could we get than one we already know can do the job?

I'm actually not worried about DT now, either, as I realized that Doggette is 270, and played DT in high school. I suspect he wasn't comfortable at DE at UC, and will move back to his natural position at Ohio. That leaves me hoping for another RB, a position where Ohio will be short of depth. If they aren't able to add another RB from the portal, hopefully they can get a couple walkons to provide depth.

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   Posted: 1/16/2024 8:54:05 AM 
Brian Metz tweeted this morning there are 12 Four year college transfers, 8 early enrollee freshmen, and 1 two-year college transfer all on campus today. He also added "and maybe a few more!!"

So I think that means we're missing a couple transfers from the count.

Last Edited: 1/16/2024 8:54:41 AM by OUs LONG Driver
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 12:28:05 PM 
MMGrad2022 wrote:
On3 has Torrie Cox Jr. returning to Ohio.


That's BIG.

I hope that inspires a few others to withdraw. Would like to see Cox stay and compete. Quintell Quinn, another one I feel like just got some bad position advice early on. Move him back to LB and let him run around and hit some people.
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 12:39:50 PM 
I guess I'm confused. Wasn't it suggested here that Albin is not one to welcome back players that entered the portal? Or perhaps it's a case-by-case basis?

I know it's allowable. And I know of instances where football/basketball coaches allowed players to rejoin the team after entering the portal. But I think someone on here suggested Albin is not one to do such a thing.
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 12:46:39 PM 
Albin was adamant that you can't come back if you skipped the bowl game. Did Cox play in Myrtle Beach?
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 1:11:45 PM 
Ohio now has a whopping 27 transfers on what will be the 2024 roster to the best of my knowledge. I didn't realize the number was so high and I really wouldn't mind seeing Ohio pump the brakes on this. That's the size of an entire recruiting class in itself. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that Ohio doesn't use the transfer portal. It is part of the game now and everyone is doing it in some capacity. I'm just very concerned about the spike in numbers and the message it send to recruiting targets, recent recruits and players already on the roster as Ohio has done a tremendous job with player development over the years. And as recent history has shown, teams that heavily use the portal seeing an increase in players also leaving in the portal. I really like the way Ohio has selectively used it in recent years. I believe that selectivity and player development has gone hand in hand with how Ohio has always been a consistent contender in the MAC. Yes, I know this was the first year that Ohio truly experienced a number of quality players entering the portal. But Ohio is now carefully walking a tight rope with bringing in all these guys to potentially lose more guys on the back end because of it. It's one thing to plug holes with the portal like Ohio used to do. It's another to fill a roster with it like Ohio has done for the first time this year with it.

Here's the list of transfers IN on the current roster that I know of at this point:

QB Gunnar Gundy - Oklahoma State
QB Parker Navarro - UCF
RB Devon Hunter - Ball State
WR Jacoby Jones - JUCO
WR Charles Ross - Nevada/San Jose State
WR Christian Hilton - The Citadel
WR Max Rodarte - JUCO
WR KJ Howard - JUCO
OL Tigana Cisse - Idaho
OL Dane Jackson - North Texas
OL Trent Allen - Rhode Island/Davenport
OL Hark Sohi - Long Island
DL Dontay Hunter - Purdue
DL Chris Mayfield - Michigan State
DL Rayyan Buell - JUCO/Rutgers
DL CJ Doggett - Cincinnati
DL Ben McNaboe - Minnesota/North Dakota
LB Kaci Seegars - Liberty
LB Kadin Schmitz - Navy
LB Blake Leake - Bucknell
DB Adonis Williams - Navy
DB Miles Fleming - Minnesota
DB Jacob Proche - JUCO/Coastal Carolina
DB Dustin Johnson - Colorado/Northern Colorado
DB Tank Pearson - JUCO
P Jared Wheatley - Vanderbilt
LS Colby Garfield - East Carolina
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 1:16:06 PM 
SBH wrote:
Albin was adamant that you can't come back if you skipped the bowl game. Did Cox play in Myrtle Beach?


He did play. And had a decent game if I remember correctly.
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 1:24:13 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
I guess I'm confused. Wasn't it suggested here that Albin is not one to welcome back players that entered the portal? Or perhaps it's a case-by-case basis?

I know it's allowable. And I know of instances where football/basketball coaches allowed players to rejoin the team after entering the portal. But I think someone on here suggested Albin is not one to do such a thing.


I'm sure it's *always* a case-by-case basis. For every coach.

What you're probably referring to is how UNLIKELY it is for anyone to be welcomed back to the team they tried to transfer away from.

This year has the largest % of players withdrawing from the portal and returning... 3%... last year just 1.8% returned.

of 2K+

Last Edited: 1/16/2024 1:27:21 PM by M.D.W.S.T
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 5:57:09 PM 
LS Justin Holloway entered the portal. I guess it all makes sense why we picked up Colby Garfield from ECU/Charlotte.
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   Posted: 1/16/2024 9:57:36 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio now has a whopping 27 transfers on what will be the 2024 roster to the best of my knowledge....

I don't think Ohio has an unusual number. Ohio recruited about 17 Freshmen, and only lost about 11 to end of eligibility. Thus, they will add less players from the portal than they lose to the portal.

Yes, Ohio could have skipped the portal, and tried to find another 10 Freshmen before the Feb. signing date, but that would have left Ohio with a very, very young team. Even worse, a couple years later, many of those would transfer out, and following that method, Ohio would have a very young team, not just next year, but every year from now on.

In my opinion, Ohio is handling it about right. They are taking a few extra freshmen, but also adding some players from the portal to fill in experience where needed. All teams are in this boat. It's a new system, and complaining about the rough waters isn't helpful. We need to let the captain steer the boat, and hope he finds a reasonably safe passage.

I actually think the portal will calm down a bit over the next couple of years. First, with everyone having an extra year from Covid, that means 6 years at the same school, more than enough time to graduate, and even do some grad school. People may want to try programs at another institution. Wilburn may be an example of that. Second, with such a wild portal year this year, there are a lot of people in the portal right now who are not getting the offers they expected. It's like a game of musical chairs, and the music is shutting down. People need to find a place to sit before all the chairs are gone. Some, who thought they were going to move up, may end up moving sideways or down. Others may end up left out, and not have any offer at all. If that happens, people next year may be more satisfied with where they are, and less willing to risk the portal unless they are a sure thing, someone with an expectation of good NIL money.

Last Edited: 1/16/2024 11:05:38 PM by L.C.

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