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TWT
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 7:04:37 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I'm one of the more "seasoned citizens" on this board. I downloaded the barstool app yesterday on my iPhone and created an account; next, I'll download it on my AppleTV. I don't expect any problem viewing the game. I'm, however, skeptical about the quality of the broadcast. For some reason I'm expecting something between the quality of FB on C-USA games and Flosports when they did the women's post-season tournament a few years ago. In essense, I'm not anticipating a very polished and professional job. I stand ready to eat my words, if this broadcast is anywhere near as professional as ESPNU.


That FB agreement by CUSA all but killed the conference.

In my opinion 2015 was the year where the mainstream flipped over to the modern technology. iPhone 6/Galaxy 6 became something more than another phone out there. Cost of phone plans dropped and unlimited voice became standard. New TVs all built with smart apps. Before that streaming Netflix on Roku was for people in the know.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 7:17:57 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Tyler wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:

While its 100% true that we will get more exposure ONLINE, I'm not sure this will translate to viewership of the actual event.

I don't see Ohio University as a hugely attractive program to the younger audience that Barstool tries to engage with. So this could ultimately backfire by cutting out a lot of old school viewers that make up Ohio's fanbase that just want to flip on ESPN2.

While streaming isn't that difficult to figure out, I guarantee folks won't even try to figure it out and will watch something else or just listen to Russ.

Personally, I don't really want to have to stream our bowl game. Do streaming devices even carry the Barstool app? If not then you will have to watch the game on a portable device and connect that device to a monitor in order to replicate the standard television broadcast.


A beautiful college town with a main street full of bars? Yeah, what young person wants to hear about that?

The @barstooloh instagram account (a Barstool affiliate account focused just on Athens) has 45k followers. That's more than the official Ohio Bobcats (15.4k) and Ohio Football (12.8k) accounts combined. Plus another 11.1 followers on @ohiouchicks (another Barstool affiliate account).

The Barstool app is available on Apple TV, Android TV, Amazon Fire and Roku. It's 2022. There are more options to watch this than any ESPN bowl.


Nearly as many people watched the Bowl ANNOUNCEMENT (185K) on Barstool’s Twitter account as watched every OU game on ESPN this year. (225-250K)

It’s 2022.

People are looking for positives to the second and third tier bowls, well, you are looking at it.

OHIO has already gotten millions of dollars in publicity from one of the most popular social media companies on the planet. And it will continue. They’re competing for eyes with some major teams right now, and they’re more than keeping up. Barstool is the KEY Ohio University demo for both athletes and students. They have the 8th most listened to podcast in the world right now. I’m sorry to the Athens historical society members that fear they cannot just flip it over to ESPNU on Tuesday at 2 PM, but millions of eyes are already on our great University that wouldn’t have already seen it.


I'm not sure I'm following you. Where have you seen the numbers on the publicity we've gotten from Barstool Sports?

Also, if Barstool is capable of generating that much revenue for this game, why is the payout only $350k? The lowest payout I'm seeing other than this bowl is the Bahamas Bowl at $225k.

BGSU is playing for $2 mill, FWIW.

https://businessofcollegesports.com/college-football-play... /


My best guess is that payout is due to the tie-in of the Big Ten. In other words the Big Ten would not agree to the tie unless the payout is decent.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 8:34:21 PM 
It blows my mind how many people still want to willingly be tethered to something as anachronistic as cable tv. It wouldn’t surprise me if these aren’t the very same people who bellyache about those very same networks being the reason the second half of the season is played on Tuesday nights in front of crowds of dozens.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 9:01:54 PM 
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 9:22:47 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Barstool seems to be a shoddy outfit. They don't have any info on accessing it or the cost.


It’s streamed for free - on the internet, old sport.

“Nothings free, young whippersnapper!” You yell back shaking your fist.

It will be shown on a website. Just like how you got to BA.com.

Barstool.tv

The WWE style announcement on Twitter has - 200K views.
@BarstoolSports: 5.5K likes on Instagram
@BarstoolBigCat: 9K likes (by comparison, @OhioFB: 2K likes)

BocaRaton instagram: They set their likes to private, because it got less than 50. Fifty. 5-0.

The announcement from the Boca Raton Bowl for Toledo: 137 likes.

Like I said in October, this is a GOOD thing. They’re already getting more eyes on Ohio Football than would’ve seen them otherwise. It’s not close. I don’t particularly like Dave, but their marketing prowess and reach can’t be denied. This is the future. Happy to be 1/1 in their world - vs 1/30 for ESPN.


I want to wait until I see the ratings before I crown this bowl a winner. Not sure we will even see the ratings? Does Barstool have to release those numbers?

While its 100% true that we will get more exposure ONLINE, I'm not sure this will translate to viewership of the actual event.

I don't see Ohio University as a hugely attractive program to the younger audience that Barstool tries to engage with. So this could ultimately backfire by cutting out a lot of old school viewers that make up Ohio's fanbase that just want to flip on ESPN2.

While streaming isn't that difficult to figure out, I guarantee folks won't even try to figure it out and will watch something else or just listen to Russ.

Personally, I don't really want to have to stream our bowl game. Do streaming devices even carry the Barstool app? If not then you will have to watch the game on a portable device and connect that device to a monitor in order to replicate the standard television broadcast.


"backfire" implies it was an active choice on our part. While I won't argue that we had NO input, I don't think we had the requisite agency for this to be said to have backfired
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 9:49:38 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.


Isn't one of the goals of college athletics to serve as the "front porch" for the university? What better way to reach the next generation of potential students than to be heavily featured on platforms they're already using and being talked about by personalities they follow?

A random boomer with no affiliation isn't likely to start enrolling in classes or make a donation to the school because they saw our game while flipping channels on a Friday afternoon. There's a higher chance a Gen Z Barstool follower learns about us either by watching the game itself or following the hype on social media, puts us on a list of schools to apply to, and potentially becomes a student.

Reaching more potential students should be a marketing goal of every bowl game. Barstool puts us where those students already are. ESPN doesn't.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:07:33 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.


If this was a genuine concern, wouldn’t you want ESPN and the giant monopolistic cable empires out of the way? Shouldn’t all the bowls be on over-the-air tv? I don’t pay for the Super Bowl, World Series, or NBA Finals, why should be college bowls be PPV? You’re lumping cord cutters into one group and forgetting that many of us figured out that if you do a simple scan on your tv settings these magic television waves are still in the air. I get 27 of them for free.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:12:05 PM 
Holy cow, flight times/prices are bad. I suppose millions of people fly home on Dec. 31 or Jan. 1 after taking trips somewhere, and so there sure isn't much left to choose from at this point. Yuck.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:32:08 PM 
Tymaster wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.


If this was a genuine concern, wouldn’t you want ESPN and the giant monopolistic cable empires out of the way? Shouldn’t all the bowls be on over-the-air tv? I don’t pay for the Super Bowl, World Series, or NBA Finals, why should be college bowls be PPV? You’re lumping cord cutters into one group and forgetting that many of us figured out that if you do a simple scan on your tv settings these magic television waves are still in the air. I get 27 of them for free.


You can look at a math problem and want 2+2=5, but if it doesn't you have to admit it. I mean one can do some basic research to figure out that a game on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU is going to draw lots more viewers than Barstool sports. I would hazard to guess that many alums (new and old) may not have ever heard of Barstool sports.

I can't tell you how many times within the last five years, I have been in Athens either with a group of friends or even alone and found a number of area watering holes where students are known to drop in watching another game (both football and basketball) on TV when the Bobcats were on, or about to be shown. If they aren't watching it there, they certainly aren't going to stream Barstool sports and watch the Cats. My point being, young people just aren't into it as much as middle age or older people. My kids play a variety of sports; football, soccer, basketball, tennis and track and they and their friends, while athletic and into sports, hardly watching with the same frequency as my friends and I did back in the day. I am not making a judgement, just stating facts. The idea that young people would say, "Hey the games on Barstool, that sounds great," seems alomst laughable. With that in mind, why not make it available to the widest audience possible?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:40:38 PM 
Tymaster wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.


If this was a genuine concern, wouldn’t you want ESPN and the giant monopolistic cable empires out of the way? Shouldn’t all the bowls be on over-the-air tv? I don’t pay for the Super Bowl, World Series, or NBA Finals, why should be college bowls be PPV? You’re lumping cord cutters into one group and forgetting that many of us figured out that if you do a simple scan on your tv settings these magic television waves are still in the air. I get 27 of them for free.


I agree. The mentality of some seems to be:

"Young people aren't watching sports on the archaic platforms their parents and grandparents have been using for decades. We might as well not bother trying to reach them in any new ways."

Catering to an aging demographic is not the way to bring in new fans, and more importantly, new students and student-athletes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:54:06 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
You can look at a math problem and want 2+2=5, but if it doesn't you have to admit it. I mean one can do some basic research to figure out that a game on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU is going to draw lots more viewers than Barstool sports. I would hazard to guess that many alums (new and old) may not have ever heard of Barstool sports.

I can't tell you how many times within the last five years, I have been in Athens either with a group of friends or even alone and found a number of area watering holes where students are known to drop in watching another game (both football and basketball) on TV when the Bobcats were on, or about to be shown. If they aren't watching it there, they certainly aren't going to stream Barstool sports and watch the Cats. My point being, young people just aren't into it as much as middle age or older people. My kids play a variety of sports; football, soccer, basketball, tennis and track and they and their friends, while athletic and into sports, hardly watching with the same frequency as my friends and I did back in the day. I am not making a judgement, just stating facts. The idea that young people would say, "Hey the games on Barstool, that sounds great," seems alomst laughable. With that in mind, why not make it available to the widest audience possible?


I don't think the issue is younger generations aren't watching sports. It's that the way they consume sports is completely different than previous generations. I'll agree that we aren't watching entire games on cable like our parents and grandparents do/did. Instead, we're seeing highlights on social media, sharing them with friends, and talking about them on reddit and discord.

This is where Barstool's advantage comes into play. They'll share more about this game on their social feeds than ESPN will all of the other MAC bowls combined. Those are the eyes we need to focus on reaching.

Any Bobcat or Cowboy fan from 18 to 80 will find a way to stream the game. It's not hard and I'm not concerned about that. I'd much rather have an unaffiliated 16-year-old see our highlights on Barstool's instagram or watch for a bit to hear the commentary, than an unaffiliated 60-year-old watch the entire game on ESPN.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 10:59:47 PM 
Tyler wrote:
Tymaster wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
It is simply a function of numbers. Kinda like people who can't understand how one part of the country, demographic etc likes a certain kind of food, or votes a certain way. There are still a helluva lot of people who aren't going to cut the cord because of a variety of reasons. Younger people just have a lower percentage of watching sports to begin with, let alone watching a game via Barstool sports.

Ask any football coach in America who has been coaching for a number of years, the percentage of their players who watch college or NFL football compared to 10, 20 or 30+ years ago is much lower. One can mock people for not doing it the way you and your Generztion Z friends do it, but the numbers don't lie; younger folks just don't watch sports like middle age or older folks do. The point being middle age and older voters tend to use streaming services at a much lower rate than those who don't have a propensity to watch in the first place. Therefore, the Bobcats would have had a much higher viewership had the game been on one of the ESPN channels.


If this was a genuine concern, wouldn’t you want ESPN and the giant monopolistic cable empires out of the way? Shouldn’t all the bowls be on over-the-air tv? I don’t pay for the Super Bowl, World Series, or NBA Finals, why should be college bowls be PPV? You’re lumping cord cutters into one group and forgetting that many of us figured out that if you do a simple scan on your tv settings these magic television waves are still in the air. I get 27 of them for free.


I agree. The mentality of some seems to be:

"Young people aren't watching sports on the archaic platforms their parents and grandparents have been using for decades. We might as well not bother trying to reach them in any new ways."

Catering to an aging demographic is not the way to bring in new fans, and more importantly, new students and student-athletes


Tyler what does it matter if they aren't watching using your streaming services? This is just a function of numbers and data. If it is already available and they aren't watching what makes you think they will somehow decide to watch it on Barstool sports, something many casual sports fans have probably never heard of and wouldn't even know that they might have it? Why not offer it to the widest audience available? This is basic marketing and how companies that cater to young people like social media companies advertise their products. They certainly don't avoid ESPN and other more widely known networks.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:02:37 PM 
lovebobcat wrote:
Holy cow, flight times/prices are bad. I suppose millions of people fly home on Dec. 31 or Jan. 1 after taking trips somewhere, and so there sure isn't much left to choose from at this point. Yuck.


I hadn't thought about holiday flight prices. I hope some people are able to make it down here for the game. AZ is perfect this time of year, and there are plenty of other events and activities. Coyotes at home in the NHL's smallest arena on the 29th. Arizona vs. ASU basketball on the 31st. Fiesta Bowl also on the 31st and standing room tickets are only $100.

Not to mention all of the outdoor recreation, museums, etc.
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   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:18:57 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
Tyler what does it matter if they aren't watching using your streaming services? This is just a function of numbers and data. If it is already available and they aren't watching what makes you think they will somehow decide to watch it on Barstool sports, something many casual sports fans have probably never heard of and wouldn't even know that they might have it? Why not offer it to the widest audience available? This is basic marketing and how companies that cater to young people like social media companies advertise their products. They certainly don't avoid ESPN and other more widely known networks.


I work in marketing, and most of what I do is aimed at a 16-24 year old demographic. It shouldn't be about how many total people see the game. It should be about the right people seeing the game/content surrounding the game.

Yes, a traditional broadcast on ESPN would undoubtedly have more viewers than a Barstool stream. But how much value are those largely apathetic viewers bringing to the university? Compare that to people who are viewing, liking, commenting and sharing the content Barstool and its affiliates have already posted, plus the content they will continue to post before, during and after the game.

We're getting millions more digital impressions than any other non-NY6 bowl. Those are far more important to me than a few thousand more people half-paying attention to our bowl game on ESPN

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:22:04 PM 
Tymaster wrote:
It blows my mind how many people still want to willingly be tethered to something as anachronistic as cable tv. It wouldn’t surprise me if these aren’t the very same people who bellyache about those very same networks being the reason the second half of the season is played on Tuesday nights in front of crowds of dozens.


Well, since I live in SE Ohio - where OHIO is located - And where reliable internet connection is not....reliable....It blows my mind that you don't get the frustration

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   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:22:57 PM 
what’s laughable is thinking young people care if it’s on barstool or espn since most of them pirated a recent fight or game on crackstream. they do laugh however at anyone who hasn’t cut the cord. if you can’t figure out how to get the game on barstool just go on reddit.
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   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:27:45 PM 
Will it be available in Sports bars?

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:38:32 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Will it be available in Sports bars?


Of course If they have the connection to the stream capability - and If they then actually connect and stream....

And then when someone wants to watch and asks them to stream it they get this response - "Who - What game - Where - How" then goes nowhere as the bartender knows less about how to make a proper Old Fashioned as does how to get that done . Most certainly in the Peoria's and Paducah's type localities and prolly just as much so in the top markets in the country....


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:44:57 PM 
Tyler wrote:
boydhallbobcat wrote:
Wowzer! Those plane ticket costs 😳


Check Phoenix too. The Tucson airport is tiny


Phoenix will require the additional cost of getting down to Tucson. Flight prices are better if returning on the 31st. Phoenix has more resorts to stay at if making a week out of it. Check skyscanner for prices.

https://www.skyscanner.com /

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   Posted: 12/5/2022 11:56:24 PM 
RSBobcat wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Will it be available in Sports bars?


Of course If they have the connection to the stream capability - and If they then actually connect and stream....


I've been trying to ask bars to put on streams since the advent of ESPN3 and its always a lost cause. The bartenders never know anything about college sports as they didn't go to college and hardly are aware of what's even in their sports TV package as far as the channel lineup goes.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/6/2022 12:26:56 AM 
I’m glad we got the barstool bowl just so we could see this debate laid out on bobcatattack. In all seriousness think we will get less bar viewership/ channel surfer viewship and maybe more younger viewers and internet streamers. Is that good idk. Think will get more internet marketing with barstool and less traditional cable marketing with ESPN. Again is this good idk but let’s give it a try and see. Creed was supposed to perform last Lear or two years ago? And it got canceled for covid if could them for halftime show again think would be cool. There is a term for led zepline let the lead out. What is the creed equivalent. Let the creed out. Let the Holy Ghost out? Let the bobcat out/ let’s get agitated bobcat fans. Greek philosophers in Athens are debating this as I post.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/6/2022 8:11:58 AM 
RSBobcat wrote:
Tymaster wrote:
It blows my mind how many people still want to willingly be tethered to something as anachronistic as cable tv. It wouldn’t surprise me if these aren’t the very same people who bellyache about those very same networks being the reason the second half of the season is played on Tuesday nights in front of crowds of dozens.


Well, since I live in SE Ohio - where OHIO is located - And where reliable internet connection is not....reliable....It blows my mind that you don't get the frustration



That's a valid point. But get used to other methods of obtaining television. Cable/Satellite is going the way of the 8-track and laser disc - rapidly. Streaming isn't the only thing taking over though. ATSC is growing quickly and I believe you'll see that being deliverable through cell phone towers so people won't have to have a bulky rooftop antenna to receive broadcasts from major networks. Ironically, it's sports buffs that are keeping cable alive. ESPN and the regional sports networks are just about the only things you can't find elsewhere for free or super cheap. Those and Faux News.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/6/2022 8:44:16 AM 
mf279801 wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Barstool seems to be a shoddy outfit. They don't have any info on accessing it or the cost.


It’s streamed for free - on the internet, old sport.

“Nothings free, young whippersnapper!” You yell back shaking your fist.

It will be shown on a website. Just like how you got to BA.com.

Barstool.tv

The WWE style announcement on Twitter has - 200K views.
@BarstoolSports: 5.5K likes on Instagram
@BarstoolBigCat: 9K likes (by comparison, @OhioFB: 2K likes)

BocaRaton instagram: They set their likes to private, because it got less than 50. Fifty. 5-0.

The announcement from the Boca Raton Bowl for Toledo: 137 likes.

Like I said in October, this is a GOOD thing. They’re already getting more eyes on Ohio Football than would’ve seen them otherwise. It’s not close. I don’t particularly like Dave, but their marketing prowess and reach can’t be denied. This is the future. Happy to be 1/1 in their world - vs 1/30 for ESPN.


I want to wait until I see the ratings before I crown this bowl a winner. Not sure we will even see the ratings? Does Barstool have to release those numbers?

While its 100% true that we will get more exposure ONLINE, I'm not sure this will translate to viewership of the actual event.

I don't see Ohio University as a hugely attractive program to the younger audience that Barstool tries to engage with. So this could ultimately backfire by cutting out a lot of old school viewers that make up Ohio's fanbase that just want to flip on ESPN2.

While streaming isn't that difficult to figure out, I guarantee folks won't even try to figure it out and will watch something else or just listen to Russ.

Personally, I don't really want to have to stream our bowl game. Do streaming devices even carry the Barstool app? If not then you will have to watch the game on a portable device and connect that device to a monitor in order to replicate the standard television broadcast.


"backfire" implies it was an active choice on our part. While I won't argue that we had NO input, I don't think we had the requisite agency for this to be said to have backfired


LOL that's what you chose to comment on? Ok thank you for your input...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/6/2022 9:09:29 AM 
I have read through all the comments surrounding our bowl game and still have some questions/comments.

1) How are the invitations decided upon?
2) Do schools have a choice to accept or reject an invitation?
3) Is the payout listed per school or to be split between the 2 schools?
4) Are there other monies that the schools can have access to?

Comments: Our bowl game is the only one not on TV. I have read numerous comments on this issue. Most seem to point to the audience being skewed to a certain age group. I am just using common sense and common sense tells me that anyone looking to watch this game would expect it to be on TV. When they realize it's not on TV they will be confused and could think this game is not respected enough by the networks to be broadcasted.
Finally, I am at a real loss as to why we would have accepted this invite knowing the game is not broadcasted on a traditional TV network?

GO BOBCATS
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio vs. Wyoming in the Arizona Bowl
   Posted: 12/6/2022 10:01:47 AM 
Wait until some of these folks learn that you don't need to have your newspaper delivered to your driveway or buy compact discs any longer...
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