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Topic:  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/12/2022 12:43:31 PM 
Currently, ESPN lists Sears as the #5 nationally in the portal (out of over 1200) and BVP as #23. To have two guys in the top 25 that will likely both end up at high-majors makes me think that this could be used as a recruiting pitch. Boals gets his players drafted or set up for opportunities at bigger schools. Come to OHIO and fall in love or come to OHIO and build your resume for the next step, wherever that may be.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/12/2022 1:23:09 PM 
Kevin Finnegan wrote:
Currently, ESPN lists Sears as the #5 nationally in the portal (out of over 1200) and BVP as #23. To have two guys in the top 25 that will likely both end up at high-majors makes me think that this could be used as a recruiting pitch. Boals gets his players drafted or set up for opportunities at bigger schools. Come to OHIO and fall in love or come to OHIO and build your resume for the next step, wherever that may be.


True. Might as well make the best of the new reality. That's pretty damn cool we have two players in the top 25 nationally and really shows we aren't messing around here in Athens. Just hurts to see comments of "Why can't they keep players there?"

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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/12/2022 3:07:44 PM 
From Zach Fleer @270hoops

There's still a lot of dominoes to fall, but here's how the transfer portal has impacted HS recruiting in Columbus

In 2018:

10 guys went D1, 20 went D2, 14 went D3, 17 went NAIA

In 2022, so far:

5 going D1, 5 going D2, 13 going D3 and 3 going NAIA

The landscape has changed
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/12/2022 3:36:38 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
From Zach Fleer @270hoops

There's still a lot of dominoes to fall, but here's how the transfer portal has impacted HS recruiting in Columbus

In 2018:

10 guys went D1, 20 went D2, 14 went D3, 17 went NAIA

In 2022, so far:

5 going D1, 5 going D2, 13 going D3 and 3 going NAIA

The landscape has changed


Sad state of affairs.
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   Posted: 4/12/2022 3:38:30 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
From Zach Fleer @270hoops

There's still a lot of dominoes to fall, but here's how the transfer portal has impacted HS recruiting in Columbus

In 2018:

10 guys went D1, 20 went D2, 14 went D3, 17 went NAIA

In 2022, so far:

5 going D1, 5 going D2, 13 going D3 and 3 going NAIA

The landscape has changed


Sad state of affairs.


It is, but itís not an unintended consequence that many didnít see coming.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/12/2022 3:46:16 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
From Zach Fleer @270hoops

There's still a lot of dominoes to fall, but here's how the transfer portal has impacted HS recruiting in Columbus

In 2018:

10 guys went D1, 20 went D2, 14 went D3, 17 went NAIA

In 2022, so far:

5 going D1, 5 going D2, 13 going D3 and 3 going NAIA

The landscape has changed


Sad state of affairs.


It is, but itís not an unintended consequence that many didnít see coming.


The portal is gonna look like a train that stopped on a dime and all the cars slammed into each other. It's gonna take a few years to get the cars undone from each other and get the train moving right again, especially with that extra year of eligibility. That will really take some time to undo. Last kid could easily be playing into 2025 or 2026 if I'm not mistaken due to the COVID year.....
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/13/2022 8:49:57 AM 
The Portal was a train wreck pre-covid. Until kids quit listening to people who serve as their "career" advisors and AAU coaches (this will never happen), the portal will continue to be a train wreck. Every one of these kids have people telling them they can do better over here, get more over there, and kids are naturally (like all of us), want to hear our value, and believe we are being under appreciated.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/13/2022 10:32:16 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
The Portal was a train wreck pre-covid. Until kids quit listening to people who serve as their "career" advisors and AAU coaches (this will never happen), the portal will continue to be a train wreck. Every one of these kids have people telling them they can do better over here, get more over there, and kids are naturally (like all of us), want to hear our value, and believe we are being under appreciated.


What baffles me is how walk-ons that hardly played are putting their names in the portal. One guy (I won't name names) in two seasons appeared briefly in 8 games during mop-up minutes. He's 0-2 shooting for zero points in two years with zero rebounds and one steal. Even the lowest of the low D-1 programs won't be offering the guy a schollie. Maybe NAIA if he's lucky. Most likely scenario: Next stop - intramurals.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/13/2022 10:34:01 AM 
greencat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
The Portal was a train wreck pre-covid. Until kids quit listening to people who serve as their "career" advisors and AAU coaches (this will never happen), the portal will continue to be a train wreck. Every one of these kids have people telling them they can do better over here, get more over there, and kids are naturally (like all of us), want to hear our value, and believe we are being under appreciated.


What baffles me is how walk-ons that hardly played are putting their names in the portal. One guy (I won't name names) in two seasons appeared briefly in 8 games during mop-up minutes. He's 0-2 shooting for zero points in two years with zero rebounds and one steal. Even the lowest of the low D-1 programs won't be offering the guy a schollie. Maybe NAIA if he's lucky. Most likely scenario: Next stop - intramurals.


What's baffling about that? Presumably he likes playing basketball?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/13/2022 11:41:24 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
greencat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
The Portal was a train wreck pre-covid. Until kids quit listening to people who serve as their "career" advisors and AAU coaches (this will never happen), the portal will continue to be a train wreck. Every one of these kids have people telling them they can do better over here, get more over there, and kids are naturally (like all of us), want to hear our value, and believe we are being under appreciated.


What baffles me is how walk-ons that hardly played are putting their names in the portal. One guy (I won't name names) in two seasons appeared briefly in 8 games during mop-up minutes. He's 0-2 shooting for zero points in two years with zero rebounds and one steal. Even the lowest of the low D-1 programs won't be offering the guy a schollie. Maybe NAIA if he's lucky. Most likely scenario: Next stop - intramurals.


What's baffling about that? Presumably he likes playing basketball?


Exactly! For a person like him there are couple things. One placing themselves into the portal allows all schools that he is available and looking. Makes his job so much easier than before the portal if he wanted to change schools. Two, like most kids who do not play or are walk-on's, he probably sees that he is as good as others who have a scholarship and some who are playing. Three, as BLSS says, kid may just want to play!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/13/2022 5:16:09 PM 
As long as they are not settling for questionable academics by transferring.

They need to beware of college versions of "Bishop Sycamore"
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/14/2022 11:16:26 AM 
greencat wrote:
As long as they are not settling for questionable academics by transferring.

They need to beware of college versions of "Bishop Sycamore"


You assume that education is a priority?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/14/2022 12:19:41 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
greencat wrote:
As long as they are not settling for questionable academics by transferring.

They need to beware of college versions of "Bishop Sycamore"


You assume that education is a priority?


Perish the thought.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/14/2022 1:29:53 PM 
SBH wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
greencat wrote:
As long as they are not settling for questionable academics by transferring.

They need to beware of college versions of "Bishop Sycamore"


You assume that education is a priority?


Perish the thought.



Why is it only college athletes that get sh*t for not prioritizing education? How many current OU students do you think are prioritizing their education right now vs. their social lives, hobbies, etc. How many are sitting in classes right now, f*cking around on their phones, just trying to skirt by with a B or whatever, and placing no emphasis whatsoever on retaining what they're learning? How many go out when they should be studying? How many are skipping classes, etc? A ton, of course.

But because a whole bunch of people ate up the NCAA's student athlete propaganda for years, it's only the student athletes who have millions of fans applying moralizing nonsense to them about the importance of an education. And a huge chunk of those very fans went to college and emphasized a whole bunch of things that weren't related to their education. I know I did. In fact, if I were to attempt to articulate the actual value of my time at OU, I'd probably weigh social growth just as heavily as my actual, hard academic experience.

That so many people feel like they can look at transfer portal activity and infer anything at all useful about how an individual feels about education is silly. You all are just carrying water for the NCAA.

If there's one thing I've learned about an education, it's that the only people get much out of it are people who are open to doing so. These kids either are or they aren't, and where they happen to be enrolled is pretty much irrelevant to the outcome in a majority of cases.

Last Edited: 4/14/2022 4:38:50 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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   Posted: 4/14/2022 5:25:30 PM 
I've noticed guys transferring from large schools with big social life to places like Point Loma Nazarene. Can't say I'm overly familiar with Point Loma Nazarene but might take a wild guess that it's not the place to get high/get laid like Athens Ohio or Athens Georgia or whatever. As far as Concordia of St. Paul, Bethel College, Stonehill College, Evangel University, Cowley College and some of the other obscure places guys seem to be ending up... they might indeed be bastions of social life and the word just hasn't got out yet.

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   Posted: 4/14/2022 9:05:09 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
SBH wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
greencat wrote:
As long as they are not settling for questionable academics by transferring.

They need to beware of college versions of "Bishop Sycamore"


You assume that education is a priority?


Perish the thought.



Why is it only college athletes that get sh*t for not prioritizing education? How many current OU students do you think are prioritizing their education right now vs. their social lives, hobbies, etc. How many are sitting in classes right now, f*cking around on their phones, just trying to skirt by with a B or whatever, and placing no emphasis whatsoever on retaining what they're learning? How many go out when they should be studying? How many are skipping classes, etc? A ton, of course.

But because a whole bunch of people ate up the NCAA's student athlete propaganda for years, it's only the student athletes who have millions of fans applying moralizing nonsense to them about the importance of an education. And a huge chunk of those very fans went to college and emphasized a whole bunch of things that weren't related to their education. I know I did. In fact, if I were to attempt to articulate the actual value of my time at OU, I'd probably weigh social growth just as heavily as my actual, hard academic experience.

That so many people feel like they can look at transfer portal activity and infer anything at all useful about how an individual feels about education is silly. You all are just carrying water for the NCAA.

If there's one thing I've learned about an education, it's that the only people get much out of it are people who are open to doing so. These kids either are or they aren't, and where they happen to be enrolled is pretty much irrelevant to the outcome in a majority of cases.


You are truly insufferable.
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   Posted: 4/15/2022 8:40:59 AM 
SBH wrote:


You are truly insufferable.


Apologies for disagreeing with your weird need to moralize the decisions of 19 year olds. Please feel free to carry on criticizing players Moms. Didn't mean to get in the way. Keep fighting the good fight.


Last Edited: 4/15/2022 8:44:33 AM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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   Posted: 4/15/2022 6:29:18 PM 
NM

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Last Edited: 4/15/2022 6:33:10 PM by bornacatfan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/19/2022 3:02:54 PM 
Here's some input on where BVP and Sears figure in the national scene.

https://watchstadium.com/the-top-75-college-basketball-tr... /
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  Message Not Read  RE: Portal. on steroifds.
   Posted: 4/27/2022 12:14:05 PM 
I haven't seen any data yet on b-ball (probably later in the year) but the NCAA has released portal data for the last years for football. Interesting that 59% of D1A (aka FBS) transfers on scholarship found a schollie at a new school while 18% of those not on scholarship got one at a new school. It might actually be worthwhile for walk-ons to get in the portal; they'd be no worse off. A third of scholarship players in the portal are still looking for a new school or may have transferred to a non-NCAA school. Eight percent that were on scholarship at a D1A school transferred to a new school as a walk-on. Numbers for D1AA (aka FCS) were even worse: 34% got a schollie somewhere and 11% transferred as walk-ons. Players at larger schools have a better shot at landing a schollie somewhere, although they have less than a 60% chance at getting one. Given the number of players in the portal, the numbers for b-ball will likely be similar.


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