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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/10/2018 8:29:54 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:


Clueless!!! At that level, it’s who you know and not what you know. We have players with General Studies degrees that make mid to low 6 figures who got jobs based on the fact they played at OHIO and can carry themselves very well.


You said "players".

Any idea how many of our former players,with GS degrees, were able to get 6 figure jobs because they played at O.U. and "carry themselves very well" ?


Also,what exactly do they do to get that kind on money ?


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   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:07:06 AM 
MedinaCat wrote:
Yeah, with his degree he is likely to end up being a teacher or selling yearbooks for a living.


Lot's of career bashing on here. Many teachers in central Ohio are now making 100K a year and if they stay till the prescribed retirement age, will make close to six figures for life. As for selling yearbooks, the good ones do quite well. I can personally attest to that and the good ones also do more than just sell, they teach advanced journalism to thousands of students and teachers each year.

I'd rather be in a profession doing what I like to do than in one where I'm not happy. Lots of folks in the latter category making big money but not really happy.
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:28:49 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
MedinaCat wrote:
Yeah, with his degree he is likely to end up being a teacher or selling yearbooks for a living.


Lot's of career bashing on here. Many teachers in central Ohio are now making 100K a year and if they stay till the prescribed retirement age, will make close to six figures for life. As for selling yearbooks, the good ones do quite well. I can personally attest to that and the good ones also do more than just sell, they teach advanced journalism to thousands of students and teachers each year.

I'd rather be in a profession doing what I like to do than in one where I'm not happy. Lots of folks in the latter category making big money but not really happy.


The GS degree is basically for people who haven't decided what to do with their lives while in college. It gives them an opportunity to get a broad education the figure out what they'd like to do later. Nothing wrong with that.


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   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:32:22 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
MedinaCat wrote:
Yeah, with his degree he is likely to end up being a teacher or selling yearbooks for a living.


Lot's of career bashing on here. Many teachers in central Ohio are now making 100K a year and if they stay till the prescribed retirement age, will make close to six figures for life. As for selling yearbooks, the good ones do quite well. I can personally attest to that and the good ones also do more than just sell, they teach advanced journalism to thousands of students and teachers each year.

I'd rather be in a profession doing what I like to do than in one where I'm not happy. Lots of folks in the latter category making big money but not really happy.


+1

The bottomline is this kid did it in 3 years. I dont care what major it is, because he got thru the 101s which eat most kids alive and then proceeded to do his degree work in two years instead of the standard 3 after the pre-requesites. How many on this board can say they did their undergrad in three? I readily admit I still have residue from $1 Toosdays and barwly graduated on time. My degree was in the same school his was and mine was a bigger joke (Sports and Leisure Studies) and yet have done fine for myself. I could give two craps what the person’s degree is on as long as he is a good person. I have seen as many crooks from Harvard’s Business School as Ohio or Ohio State. So again, congrats to the kid, his family, and those who helped him get to today. It stinks he dodnt come to OU but has always represented the area well.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:41:07 AM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:


The bottomline is this kid did it in 3 years. I dont care what major it is, because he got thru the 101s which eat most kids alive and then proceeded to do his degree work in two years instead of the standard 3 after the pre-requesites. How many on this board can say they did their undergrad in three? I readily admit I still have residue from $1 Toosdays and barwly graduated on time. My degree was in the same school his was and mine was a bigger joke (Sports and Leisure Studies) and yet have done fine for myself. I could give two craps what the person’s degree is on as long as he is a good person. I have seen as many crooks from Harvard’s Business School as Ohio or Ohio State. So again, congrats to the kid, his family, and those who helped him get to today. It stinks he dodnt come to OU but has always represented the area well.


Not going to comment on the quality/value of his degree.

As far as doing it in 3 years,I went to college and grad school before on-line courses existed.

You were also much more limited in what you could take in the summer.

Back then,there was virtually no way to get a degree in less then four years.

That being said,most students I went to school with did complete their BA/BS in four years.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:57:05 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:


The bottomline is this kid did it in 3 years. I dont care what major it is, because he got thru the 101s which eat most kids alive and then proceeded to do his degree work in two years instead of the standard 3 after the pre-requesites. How many on this board can say they did their undergrad in three? I readily admit I still have residue from $1 Toosdays and barwly graduated on time. My degree was in the same school his was and mine was a bigger joke (Sports and Leisure Studies) and yet have done fine for myself. I could give two craps what the person’s degree is on as long as he is a good person. I have seen as many crooks from Harvard’s Business School as Ohio or Ohio State. So again, congrats to the kid, his family, and those who helped him get to today. It stinks he dodnt come to OU but has always represented the area well.


Not going to comment on the quality/value of his degree.

As far as doing it in 3 years,I went to college and grad school before on-line courses existed.

You were also much more limited in what you could take in the summer.

Back then,there was virtually no way to get a degree in less then four years.

That being said,most students I went to school with did complete their BA/BS in four years.


Totally understand, and all valid points.

Just like I said, lets bury this horse, see where he goes, and go from there.
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 10:27:47 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Not going to comment on the quality/value of his degree.

As far as doing it in 3 years,I went to college and grad school before on-line courses existed.

You were also much more limited in what you could take in the summer.

Back then,there was virtually no way to get a degree in less then four years.

That being said,most students I went to school with did complete their BA/BS in four years.

I don't know - I graduated in three years without much difficulty, in engineering. Getting a head start with some AP work in high school was critical. Summer school may have been more limited, but it was also useful. Most important of all was to plan it in advance, and get all the prerequisite courses done in the right order.

To put it in perspective, consider a friend of mine who graduated from engineering from the India Institute of Technology. They required 240 credit hours to graduate, not the 120 that is required in the US. The credit hours were essentially the same as in the US, except that they also finished the entire textbook, whereas in the US, courses stopped wherever they were when the time ran out. To get those 240 hours done in five years required an average of 16 credit hours Fall, Spring, and Summer. Compared to that, my graduating in 3 years was no big deal, and I've never considered it a big deal, just a tuition saver.

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   Posted: 5/10/2018 10:35:49 AM 
C Money wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
. . . Sorry, but this seems like just another curriculum that incorporates the course coursework need to keep athletes eligible.


That was my first thought, also. Now, if it lead to a CPA, I might be impressed. Without naming names I had a situation recently where a CFP gave me wrong advice on a tax matter that a CPA had to correct.


CFPs are salespeople. I know many that are good people, but I always take any "advice" from them with several tablespoons of NaCl.


Definitely true. They can be helpful in certain situations with certain people but let's not confuse anything they do with a CPA whatsoever.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/10/2018 11:11:34 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
C Money wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
. . . Sorry, but this seems like just another curriculum that incorporates the course coursework need to keep athletes eligible.


That was my first thought, also. Now, if it lead to a CPA, I might be impressed. Without naming names I had a situation recently where a CFP gave me wrong advice on a tax matter that a CPA had to correct.


CFPs are salespeople. I know many that are good people, but I always take any "advice" from them with several tablespoons of NaCl.


Definitely true. They can be helpful in certain situations with certain people but let's not confuse anything they do with a CPA whatsoever.


As someone who works with CFPs, CPAs and CFAs every day on a regular basis...I can agree with both of you. Our CFPs actually recommend CPAs for things such as taxes, and other stuff THEY were trained for. And the CFAs tell the CFPs what to invest in. So really, what are they doing? Selling.

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   Posted: 5/10/2018 11:32:06 AM 
L.C. wrote:


I don't know - I graduated in three years without much difficulty, in engineering. Getting a head start with some AP work in high school was critical. Summer school may have been more limited, but it was also useful. Most important of all was to plan it in advance, and get all the prerequisite courses done in the right order.

To put it in perspective, consider a friend of mine who graduated from engineering from the India Institute of Technology. They required 240 credit hours to graduate, not the 120 that is required in the US. The credit hours were essentially the same as in the US, except that they also finished the entire textbook, whereas in the US, courses stopped wherever they were when the time ran out. To get those 240 hours done in five years required an average of 16 credit hours Fall, Spring, and Summer. Compared to that, my graduating in 3 years was no big deal, and I've never considered it a big deal, just a tuition saver.


I've said it before.
I'm a dinosaur.

So my experience in getting my engineering degrees is probably a lot different then yours.

Our idea of a computer was the old main frame in I believe Clippinger Hall.

There weren't any A.P. classes when I went to high school.

We also had very few "core" classes in college.
2 English classes,2 government or history classes and 1 P.E. class.

Everything else was either a required course or technical elective.

Schools did offer classes like calc.,chemistry,physics in the summer.
But those were all classes you had to take,during the school year, as a Freshman.

Most people were happy to graduate in 4 years.
Especially with the games they used to play with scheduling certian courses.

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   Posted: 5/10/2018 12:28:20 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:

Most people were happy to graduate in 4 years.
Especially with the games they used to play with scheduling certian courses.


Not to mention games like "sink the sub" / Trivia (at uptown bar) / 99 (card game) / "Hi Bob" / I'm sure there are many more
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 2:05:43 PM 
Ok now I'm really not sure why this thread still exists. I was on board while we were speculating where his next destination was going to be. Now we're talking about what type of job his degree will get him and tax filing advice. Please tell me how his degree relates to Ohio football...I'll wait. At least bash the kid for leaving osu instead of how much money he will/will not make with his degree.
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 2:27:54 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Ok now I'm really not sure why this thread still exists. I was on board while we were speculating where his next destination was going to be. Now we're talking about what type of job his degree will get him and tax filing advice. Please tell me how his degree relates to Ohio football...I'll wait. At least bash the kid for leaving osu instead of how much money he will/will not make with his degree.


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   Posted: 5/10/2018 2:45:00 PM 
C Money wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Ok now I'm really not sure why this thread still exists. I was on board while we were speculating where his next destination was going to be. Now we're talking about what type of job his degree will get him and tax filing advice. Please tell me how his degree relates to Ohio football...I'll wait. At least bash the kid for leaving osu instead of how much money he will/will not make with his degree.


Welcome to Bobcat Attack, where the thoughts are made up and the subject doesn't matter.


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   Posted: 5/10/2018 4:00:17 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Ok now I'm really not sure why this thread still exists. I was on board while we were speculating where his next destination was going to be. Now we're talking about what type of job his degree will get him and tax filing advice.....


Chill. Its still early. We haven't even gotten to civil war references yet. :)



C Money wrote:
Welcome to Bobcat Attack, where the thoughts are made up and the subject doesn't matter.


LOL. That should be a motto for a pub somewhere....

Last Edited: 5/10/2018 4:01:36 PM by Ohio69


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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   Posted: 5/10/2018 4:45:34 PM 
As we all thought, its happening. It's about where though? He isn't even considering Nebraska but Frost likes mobile QBs so that makes sense. LSU would be the perfect fit. May even have a championship run with LSU's returning defense. LSU always lacks a passing QB. Believe or not Matt Flynn was not a great passer nor Jemarcus Russell. I hope he doesnt go to Cincy. They just don't have the offensive line to protect him. But wouldn't it be fun that Coach Burrows would have to game plan and send blitzes against his son. That would be a great talking point for commentators. C'mon guys, tell me your not atleast a little bit excited about the possibility of facing him now.


And for all those who hate Burrows post, once again I watched this kid grow up on the sidelines and he got balls, towels and water for us. So I'll be a fan of the kid regardless if he didn't choose OU.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/09/ohio... /

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   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:02:41 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
MedinaCat wrote:
Yeah, with his degree he is likely to end up being a teacher or selling yearbooks for a living.


Lot's of career bashing on here. Many teachers in central Ohio are now making 100K a year and if they stay till the prescribed retirement age, will make close to six figures for life. As for selling yearbooks, the good ones do quite well. I can personally attest to that and the good ones also do more than just sell, they teach advanced journalism to thousands of students and teachers each year.

I'd rather be in a profession doing what I like to do than in one where I'm not happy. Lots of folks in the latter category making big money but not really happy.


Not bashing the career Alan, bashing those on here that are looking down their noses at the degree Burrow chose to pursue.
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 9:31:44 PM 
MedinaCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
MedinaCat wrote:
Yeah, with his degree he is likely to end up being a teacher or selling yearbooks for a living.


Lot's of career bashing on here. Many teachers in central Ohio are now making 100K a year and if they stay till the prescribed retirement age, will make close to six figures for life. As for selling yearbooks, the good ones do quite well. I can personally attest to that and the good ones also do more than just sell, they teach advanced journalism to thousands of students and teachers each year.

I'd rather be in a profession doing what I like to do than in one where I'm not happy. Lots of folks in the latter category making big money but not really happy.


Not bashing the career Alan, bashing those on here that are looking down their noses at the degree Burrow chose to pursue.


My bad because you pointed out the two careers that I've had and I must have mistook that for belittling those careers.
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   Posted: 5/10/2018 10:07:24 PM 
So some of you criticize Burrow for his major, how many of the same people cheered for a Ohio University QB that was busted for being involved selling the drug “Molly”?

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   Posted: 5/11/2018 12:03:16 AM 
Ohio69 wrote:
Chill. Its still early. We haven't even gotten to civil war references yet. :)


I will happily oblige. ;-)

If Burrow ends up at LSU, he will be at a school where Lancaster, Ohio, native Wm. Tecumseh Sherman was the first president. (The head position was called superintendent at the time, but he's recognized as the first president by LSU.) A little over a year later, the rebellion starts and WTS resigns and rejoins the U.S. Army. The rest . . . as they say . . . is history.


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   Posted: 5/11/2018 8:17:11 AM 
You are correct OCF. Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy first opened in 1853 in Pineville, Louisiana. It was later moved to Baton Rouge and is now known as Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College or LSU and A&M.
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   Posted: 5/11/2018 10:46:45 AM 
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:
So some of you criticize Burrow for his major, how many of the same people cheered for a Ohio University QB that was busted for being involved selling the drug “Molly”?



At least he was an Ohio University quarterback. So I would have cheered for him over Burrow.
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   Posted: 5/11/2018 12:27:31 PM 
ou79 wrote:
You are correct OCF. Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy first opened in 1853 in Pineville, Louisiana. It was later moved to Baton Rouge and is now known as Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College or LSU and A&M.


Awesome info. I did not know that!
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   Posted: 5/11/2018 10:47:41 PM 
ExCat21 wrote:
ou79 wrote:
You are correct OCF. Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy first opened in 1853 in Pineville, Louisiana. It was later moved to Baton Rouge and is now known as Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College or LSU and A&M.


Awesome info. I did not know that!


I was told that Sherman's portrait used to be in the basement of the administration building next to the women's restroom, but that a few black members of the Board of Supervisors (like our trustees) have managed to get it moved to more prominent location in recent years.


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   Posted: 5/11/2018 10:51:41 PM 
FYI: https://www.lsu.edu/president/history.php


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