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SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/9/2022 10:44:21 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Donuts wrote:
This isnít official, because, well, most people arenít checking the rule books for how the state divides up.


Betcha BTC is checking the rule books.


Donít need to check a rule book. Because thatís actually part of my job. But, hatred is a form of envy, which I take as a compliment. And yeah, when it comes to my profession and side hustles, I know that rule book.


The campus parking rule book, though, right?

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/9/2022 10:46:33 AM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Anybody else notice that @OhioUniversity has now updated their profile picture to a Bengals themed Forever Ohio graphic?

The connection to the university is through his father, Joe isn't exactly "Forever Ohio". He is more like "Never Ohio and a little bit of OSU"

Curious to hear thoughts on this. We already get confused for OSU in other parts of the country.


He is from the community, a community that is proud of one of their own. Currently on Court Street there is a LARGE banner going across the street of Joe and the Bengals. Joe has been pushed out by University media as a kid being at OHIO games. Nothing wrong with the University getting behind Joe. Guaranteed, many students of the University are paying attention due to Joe being from the town.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/9/2022 11:05:47 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Anybody else notice that @OhioUniversity has now updated their profile picture to a Bengals themed Forever Ohio graphic?

The connection to the university is through his father, Joe isn't exactly "Forever Ohio". He is more like "Never Ohio and a little bit of OSU"

Curious to hear thoughts on this. We already get confused for OSU in other parts of the country.


He is from the community, a community that is proud of one of their own. Currently on Court Street there is a LARGE banner going across the street of Joe and the Bengals. Joe has been pushed out by University media as a kid being at OHIO games. Nothing wrong with the University getting behind Joe. Guaranteed, many students of the University are paying attention due to Joe being from the town.


I get it to an extent. Getting behind him and trying to draw a clear line between the university's brand and Joe are two different things.

To an outsider, one could draw the conclusion that Joe played football at Ohio University from the branding that they are putting out there on social media.

Love what Joe has done for the Athens community, he's a superhero for that.

Would love to hear the things he's done for Ohio University.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/9/2022 11:43:10 AM 

Traditionally, both Lancaster and Zanesville have been considered part of Southeastern Ohio.  For years the Zanesville Times Recorder carried various slogans on its nameplate indicating the location of Zanesville as being in Southeatern Ohio. Perhaps, Southeastern Ohio is more a state of mind than geographically location! smiley

Seriously, I consider all of our branch loctions as being in SEO -- Lancaster, Zanesville, St. Clairsville, Ironton and Chillicothe.  In this area, I'll put my rule book up against BTC's any day..  enlightened

Now, when it comes to football and basketball rules, I'll always defer to Billy.  He's kind of like BA's version of Professor Jack Rhodes, from whom I took an athletic officiating class back in the day.  When it came to football rules, Professor Rhodes was right, even when he was wrong, because he was the chairman of the OHSAA's football rules committee.  He was the final authority.  His interpretation was, by definition, correct.  BTC is like that on BA: He's right even when he's wrong! wink

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 5:13:00 AM 
"Bengals is the new Athens" comment from a Yahoo story giving a brief history of Joe Burrows time as QB of the Bulldogs and more. Even mentions OUr twins.

So, who in town is going to the game?


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   Posted: 2/10/2022 7:18:04 AM 
I heard a syndicated radio show last Saturday in which a Bengals writer who studied at OU claimed Athens is "well within the Cincinnati universe."

"Southern Ohio is one distinct region."

When the host asked how far Athens is from Cincy, he replied, "An hour and a half at most."

Last Edited: 2/10/2022 7:18:48 AM by SBH

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 9:00:51 AM 
SBH wrote:
I heard a syndicated radio show last Saturday in which a Bengals writer who studied at OU claimed Athens is "well within the Cincinnati universe."

"Southern Ohio is one distinct region."

When the host asked how far Athens is from Cincy, he replied, "An hour and a half at most."



Well in fairness to this person, this thread and others has shown that geography is clearly ones own opinion and not actually defined by geography or government classifications. ;-)
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 9:26:33 AM 
SBH wrote:
I heard a syndicated radio show last Saturday in which a Bengals writer who studied at OU claimed Athens is "well within the Cincinnati universe."

"Southern Ohio is one distinct region."

When the host asked how far Athens is from Cincy, he replied, "An hour and a half at most."



Mt. Orab in Brown County is what I would consider to be the easternmost fringe of Greater Cincinnati and even that is a bit of a stretch IMHO. They have a LaRosa's Pizza, Skyline Chili etc. as some suburban sprawl has inched that way. They are certainly covered by Cincinnati media. It's still a solid 2 hour drive to Athens from there.

Paul Brown Stadium to Mt. Orab is a good 40-45 minutes.

Last Edited: 2/10/2022 9:27:04 AM by OUcats82


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 10:35:17 AM 
SBH wrote:
I heard a syndicated radio show last Saturday in which a Bengals writer who studied at OU claimed Athens is "well within the Cincinnati universe."

"Southern Ohio is one distinct region."

When the host asked how far Athens is from Cincy, he replied, "An hour and a half at most."



I've seen folks pass me on Rt. 32 who probably make it all the way to Parkersburg in that time, but the Ohio State Highway Patrol frowns on this behavior and I'm sure no BAer has ever made it this time.

BTW, I have a road map that is of "Southeastern Ohio," and it includes Tuscarawas County as the most northern part of our region. That, even to me, is a real stretch. This map was printed in the 1990s, so it's not ancient. To some people SEO is any of the non-glaciated parts of Ohio east of the Scioto, I think.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 10:57:49 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
SBH wrote:
I heard a syndicated radio show last Saturday in which a Bengals writer who studied at OU claimed Athens is "well within the Cincinnati universe."

"Southern Ohio is one distinct region."

When the host asked how far Athens is from Cincy, he replied, "An hour and a half at most."



I've seen folks pass me on Rt. 32 who probably make it all the way to Parkersburg in that time, but the Ohio State Highway Patrol frowns on this behavior and I'm sure no BAer has ever made it this time.

BTW, I have a road map that is of "Southeastern Ohio," and it includes Tuscarawas County as the most northern part of our region. That, even to me, is a real stretch. This map was printed in the 1990s, so it's not ancient. To some people SEO is any of the non-glaciated parts of Ohio east of the Scioto, I think.


Actually faster to get to Cincinnati going to Columbus and down 71 than down 32.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 12:01:28 PM 
https://twitter.com/acsd_athletics/status/149181224792819...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 2:15:57 PM 
I make the Cincinnati to Athens trip all the time. I live in the Mason-Loveland area. 2 hrs 20 minutes. I think the best route is 32 from Athens to Jackson, 35 from Jackson to Octa/Jeffersonville, then 71 to Cincinnati. The Columbus route is good, but not quite as good as the route I just described.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 6:29:52 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Donuts wrote:
This isnít official, because, well, most people arenít checking the rule books for how the state divides up.


Betcha BTC is checking the rule books.


Donít need to check a rule book. Because thatís actually part of my job. But, hatred is a form of envy, which I take as a compliment. And yeah, when it comes to my profession and side hustles, I know that rule book.


Fairfield Union, a school northeast of Lancaster, is in the SE District for high school sports. Circleville is in the SE District. Someone alert officials that they are rule breakers.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/10/2022 9:47:22 PM 
Donuts wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Donuts wrote:
This isnít official, because, well, most people arenít checking the rule books for how the state divides up.


Betcha BTC is checking the rule books.


Donít need to check a rule book. Because thatís actually part of my job. But, hatred is a form of envy, which I take as a compliment. And yeah, when it comes to my profession and side hustles, I know that rule book.


Fairfield Union, a school northeast of Lancaster, is in the SE District for high school sports. Circleville is in the SE District. Someone alert officials that they are rule breakers.


Both were in the Central District and petitioned to leave the Central. Nice try though. Eastern Brown is in the SE as well by petition. Maybe you should understand the history of the actual borders of the OHSAA and itís petition policy. Sheridan, Crooksville, Marietta, Warren, Waterford are all East District teams that came to the SE because they wanted to hang with the cool kids.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/11/2022 9:31:33 AM 
Not really sure what you get out of wondering why people would think any area south of Columbus (separated from urban sprawl) and east of Cincinnati (separated from urban sprawl) is the same general area. Since this whole argument stemmed from schools, there's no such thing as South Central Ohio. So bringing that up was pointless.

All these cities, towns, and villages have similar positives and negatives. This is why these areas identify with Burrow. Go to the nearest Kroger to Circleville, Eastern Brown, Marietta, and Lancaster HS and tell me that isn't SE Ohio (or whatever made up name you want to use since you're a stickler for the real definition). Lancaster HS is in the Central because there is a lack of D1 teams in the SE.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/11/2022 11:02:16 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Actually faster to get to Cincinnati going to Columbus and down 71 than down 32.


Not in my experience. Probably depends on the part of Cincy you are headed for. Also, may depend on how closely you follow the posted speed limits. ;-)


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/13/2022 2:50:23 PM 
Donuts wrote:
Not really sure what you get out of wondering why people would think any area south of Columbus (separated from urban sprawl) and east of Cincinnati (separated from urban sprawl) is the same general area. Since this whole argument stemmed from schools, there's no such thing as South Central Ohio. So bringing that up was pointless.

All these cities, towns, and villages have similar positives and negatives. This is why these areas identify with Burrow. Go to the nearest Kroger to Circleville, Eastern Brown, Marietta, and Lancaster HS and tell me that isn't SE Ohio (or whatever made up name you want to use since you're a stickler for the real definition). Lancaster HS is in the Central because there is a lack of D1 teams in the SE.


SE Ohio can be interpreted to include anything south of I-71 and I-76 outside of the immediate metros of Cincinnati, Columbus, Akron/Canton. Lancaster was historically a SE Ohio community but it has slowly tilted toward central Ohio the last 50 years or so. The population declines of the industrial towns of SE Ohio have made DI even DII no longer viable so it makes sense for Lancaster to latch on to a central ohio athletic conference.

The definitions of other places play an impact here. SW Ohio is Cincinnati, Dayton, Miami Valley. Ironton and Chillicothe even if geographically in SW Ohio are never considered in this grouping. Northeast Ohio doesn't include areas south of Canton and if anything trends west rather than south toward Sandusky to claim much of the Lake Erie coastline in its orbit. Towns such as Norwalk and Tiffin which are too far north for central Ohio but not west enough for NW Ohio.

For NW Ohio Port Clinton is solidly NW though nearby Sandusky isn't. Findlay is too far north to be in Central Ohio but Marion is. Limaland is NW but anything south is the start of the Miami Valley.


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   Posted: 2/15/2022 12:33:28 AM 
Club Hyatt wrote:
. . .Ironton and Chillicothe even if geographically in SW Ohio are never considered in this grouping. . . .


I'm not sure what kind of map you are looking at but Ironton is the county seat of Lawrence County. I lived for four years in the Lawrence County village of Chesapeake. Geographically you don't get more Southeastern Ohio than Lawrence County. And Chillicothe, geographically, is right on the edge of the line between SW and SE Ohio, but culturally and historically, it's part of SEO.

You might not know this but back in the late 1700s Athens was known as Middletown, because it was halfway by horse from Marietta, the first permanent settlement, and the Chillicothe the territorial capital. It was one day's ride from Marietta to Middletown and another day's ride to Chillicothe. The segment from Middletown (Athens) to Chillicothe is a little farther as the crow flies than from Marietta to Middletown, but apparently the terrain is such, or the routes taken due to the terrain, that the riding time is about equal. These kinds of historical detail are important in assessing the historical bonds between various locations and the cultural similarities.


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   Posted: 2/15/2022 11:05:20 AM 
I'll leave the geographical distinctions to others.

But I am never disappointed when it comes to the variety of topics this group can conjure up.


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   Posted: 2/15/2022 11:10:38 AM 
Not only was Athens first called Middletown for the Marietta to Chillicothe connection, but the route that was used was labeled as the first state route for awhile. What is cool is that while there is no longer a highway bearing that name, the designation lives on in Athen's East and West State Street names.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/15/2022 6:02:42 PM 
I hope Joe Burrow has a long NFL career but it won't be with that offensive line playing as they have the past two seasons. Who dey, who dey gonna get to protect JB?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/15/2022 10:12:53 PM 
Been thinking that it's probably just as well that the Bengals lost. A win would've been tainted by the missed facemask penalty on Higgins's TD catch in the third quarter. Yeah, there were some other blown calls but none of the them were so obvious and so game-changing as that one.


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   Posted: 2/16/2022 12:10:24 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
I hope Joe Burrow has a long NFL career but it won't be with that offensive line playing as they have the past two seasons. Who dey, who dey gonna get to protect JB?


Exactly my thoughts as I watched the Bengals in the playoffs. In one game Joe was sacked nine times -- setting an NFL record for the most number of times a winning QB has been sacked. With that OL, it's absolutely amazing that the Bengals even made it to the Super Bowl. I think I know what the Bengals priorities will be in terms of the draft and free agent signings.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/16/2022 11:10:45 AM 
I drive the speed limit. Haven't had a speeding ticket since 1985. From my driveway to the stadium area in Cincinnati is exactly 2:40 minutes via route 32 - a road that has little to no traffic until you get to the area just east of the 32/I 275 junction.

As for SE Ohio, that was my yearbook territory for over 30 years. It started in Portsmouth (Scioto County) and went north on 23 to the northern edge of Ross County (Chillicothe) and then northeast on a diagonal toward Lancaster (Fairfield County) and then on to Zanesville (Muskingum County) and then east along 70 the the Ohio River. That area between NE Ohio and SE Ohio is/was commonly referred to as East Central Ohio. The folks in the New Philly area are less than an hour from downtown Akron.

As for folks switching OHSAA districts, league affiliation, number of teams of similar division size, travel, and a chance to advance further in post season tournaments all figured into those petitions to change.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/16/2022 11:42:31 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
[QUOTE=MonroeClassmate]

Exactly my thoughts as I watched the Bengals in the playoffs. In one game Joe was sacked nine times -- setting an NFL record for the most number of times a winning QB has been sacked. With that OL, it's absolutely amazing that the Bengals even made it to the Super Bowl. I think I know what the Bengals priorities will be in terms of the draft and free agent signings.


The Bengals are lucky Burrow only got a "sprain" when he went down in the fourth quarter.

According to ESPN the Bengals have the most "Cap Space" of any NFL team.

Of course, ESPN also said they have the cheapest owner.

They don't even have an IPF.
(They "borrow" University of Cincinnati's when they need to practice indoors.



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