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Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 734 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/23/2022 7:27:01 PM  Burn bridge! Burn! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/23/2022 10:45:13 PM  Wonder if this will bring back talk of WKU and some other partner to the MAC. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,045 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/23/2022 11:47:29 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Wonder if this will bring back talk of WKU and some other partner to the MAC. I'm not seeing any connection. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 12:32:57 AM  Jeff McKinney wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Wonder if this will bring back talk of WKU and some other partner to the MAC. I'm not seeing any connection. Seems a clear connection to me. What kind of a conference will WKU and MTSU, etc. have if the departing teams leave immediately. Seems it likely it will renew discussions about further departures. No? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top astr083 General User Member Since: 3/21/2018 Location: Atlanta, GA Post Count: 5 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 9:48:25 AM  To be honest, I have no desire to bring in WKU... Like Marshall they are not a fit with much of the league culturally (southern team), they are not in a major media market (do not say they bring Nashville because OU is not considered to be in the Columbus market and they are about the same distance in relation to WKU-Nash) and while their sports have improved drastically over the last decade, their academics leave a lot to be desired. I think the MAC could do better going East with UMass, Temple, Army, or Delaware. I know the likelihood of getting Army or Temple is not great at the moment, but I would much rather hold out for one of those schools than settle for WKU. I really do not think they bring much to the league other than another mouth to feed. Might as well just stay at 12 unless a team that can help move the needle via television (big market - Temple or great following - Army), or a state flagship like UMass or Delaware come calling. Last Edited: 2/24/2022 10:09:57 AM by astr083 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 10:24:16 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Wonder if this will bring back talk of WKU and some other partner to the MAC. I'm not seeing any connection. Seems a clear connection to me. What kind of a conference will WKU and MTSU, etc. have if the departing teams leave immediately. Seems it likely it will renew discussions about further departures. No? Doubt it. If they were going to move it would've been last fall when the schools were in the grip of conference-change fever. WKU didn't choose to stay with CUSA because of T'erd; to the contrary, they knew that T'erd was leaving. Instead, they chose to stay because of MTSU, knowing full well that the new CUSA will be a lot weaker for quite some time. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,749 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 2:38:51 PM  WKSU didn't choose to stay; they were told it was a two-team deal with the MAC or else. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 2:51:37 PM  Marshall should have never left the MAC the second time, let alone the first. I wonder how much money they plowed through seeking greener pastures. A lesson for us. Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,452 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/24/2022 9:20:49 PM  astr083 wrote: To be honest, I have no desire to bring in WKU... Like Marshall they are not a fit with much of the league culturally (southern team), they are not in a major media market (do not say they bring Nashville because OU is not considered to be in the Columbus market and they are about the same distance in relation to WKU-Nash) and while their sports have improved drastically over the last decade, their academics leave a lot to be desired. I think the MAC could do better going East with UMass, Temple, Army, or Delaware. I know the likelihood of getting Army or Temple is not great at the moment, but I would much rather hold out for one of those schools than settle for WKU. I really do not think they bring much to the league other than another mouth to feed. Might as well just stay at 12 unless a team that can help move the needle via television (big market - Temple or great following - Army), or a state flagship like UMass or Delaware come calling. Zero. The odds of getting Army are zero. Not slim, not a long shot, but literally zero Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,471 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/25/2022 7:29:03 AM  giacomo wrote: Marshall should have never left the MAC the second time, let alone the first. I wonder how much money they plowed through seeking greener pastures. A lesson for us. Marshall had little choice the first time as they were suspended indefinitely for committing over 140 recruiting violations. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/27/2022 1:24:38 PM  mf279801 wrote: astr083 wrote: To be honest, I have no desire to bring in WKU... Like Marshall they are not a fit with much of the league culturally (southern team), they are not in a major media market (do not say they bring Nashville because OU is not considered to be in the Columbus market and they are about the same distance in relation to WKU-Nash) and while their sports have improved drastically over the last decade, their academics leave a lot to be desired. I think the MAC could do better going East with UMass, Temple, Army, or Delaware. I know the likelihood of getting Army or Temple is not great at the moment, but I would much rather hold out for one of those schools than settle for WKU. I really do not think they bring much to the league other than another mouth to feed. Might as well just stay at 12 unless a team that can help move the needle via television (big market - Temple or great following - Army), or a state flagship like UMass or Delaware come calling. Zero. The odds of getting Army are zero. Not slim, not a long shot, but literally zero Temps and UMass have already been and gone, so they won't be coming back. Neither really added anything to the MAC; we knew that Temps was merely biding its time for a better offer (which it got but has failed miserably as a contender, much like its stint in the Big East) and UMass won't be full-time MAC. Delaware, while having a perennially decent program, probably doesn't have sex appeal for the average fan. I think what eventually will happen with the MAC is to pick up a couple 1AA schools that want to transition up (like what's happened with many current MAC teams). Maybe EKU (which is sort of an outlier in the ASUN) or a couple MVC teams. Last Edited: 2/27/2022 1:25:36 PM by Pataskala We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,452 Status: Offline     RE: Marshall    Posted: 2/27/2022 10:44:17 PM  Pataskala wrote: mf279801 wrote: astr083 wrote: To be honest, I have no desire to bring in WKU... Like Marshall they are not a fit with much of the league culturally (southern team), they are not in a major media market (do not say they bring Nashville because OU is not considered to be in the Columbus market and they are about the same distance in relation to WKU-Nash) and while their sports have improved drastically over the last decade, their academics leave a lot to be desired. I think the MAC could do better going East with UMass, Temple, Army, or Delaware. I know the likelihood of getting Army or Temple is not great at the moment, but I would much rather hold out for one of those schools than settle for WKU. I really do not think they bring much to the league other than another mouth to feed. Might as well just stay at 12 unless a team that can help move the needle via television (big market - Temple or great following - Army), or a state flagship like UMass or Delaware come calling. Zero. The odds of getting Army are zero. Not slim, not a long shot, but literally zero Temps and UMass have already been and gone, so they won't be coming back. Neither really added anything to the MAC; we knew that Temps was merely biding its time for a better offer (which it got but has failed miserably as a contender, much like its stint in the Big East) and UMass won't be full-time MAC. Delaware, while having a perennially decent program, probably doesn't have sex appeal for the average fan. I think what eventually will happen with the MAC is to pick up a couple 1AA schools that want to transition up (like what's happened with many current MAC teams). Maybe EKU (which is sort of an outlier in the ASUN) or a couple MVC teams. I live less than 3 miles from U.Delaware's stadium, I'd love for them to join the MAC. That said, I'm not going to claim that I'm well connected to the program, but I don't think they have any interest in transitioning to FBS. Intellectually I know that they must have had home games this past year, but I never once knew when they were taking place based on traffic or on-campus activity. (Which, to be fair, is an argument that they'd fit in perfectly in the MAC) Also, they're not close to anyone in the MAC. 7-hour drive to Athens, about the same to Buffalo and Ken-kron, and further to the rest. Football and basketball you could fly into Philadelphia or New Castle, but that's a long bus ride for the field hockey, baseball, et al. 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