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It feels like a far less subjective goal, and bowl games are basically just the NIT at this point. If you're not in the playoff, nobody cares, and as a member of one of the 2 lowest ranked FBS conferences, we're unlikely to be in the playoff. You, sir, are not alone. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,353 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 8:49:00 PM  From the standpoint of getting to see more Ohio football in a season, I'd pick the FCS option. In a CFP world we'd likely be one and done. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top El Gato Roberto General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Buffalo Grove, IL Post Count: 1,218 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 9:01:07 PM  brucecuth wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I may be alone in this, but the FCS option's more appealing to me. It feels like a far less subjective goal, and bowl games are basically just the NIT at this point. If you're not in the playoff, nobody cares, and as a member of one of the 2 lowest ranked FBS conferences, we're unlikely to be in the playoff. You, sir, are not alone. I think if some of the G6 conferences opt into the FCS it will gain a following. I’d rather make a run rather than go 11-1 with the 1 loss being 57-2 against Oregon. "The name's Ohio University, but everybody calls me Ohio. Any of you guys call me Ohio U, and I'll kill you." Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,137 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 9:36:51 PM  El Gato Roberto wrote: brucecuth wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I may be alone in this, but the FCS option's more appealing to me. It feels like a far less subjective goal, and bowl games are basically just the NIT at this point. If you're not in the playoff, nobody cares, and as a member of one of the 2 lowest ranked FBS conferences, we're unlikely to be in the playoff. You, sir, are not alone. I think if some of the G6 conferences opt into the FCS it will gain a following. I’d rather make a run rather than go 11-1 with the 1 loss being 57-2 against Oregon. Why would the G6 want to merge with FCS conferences? Wouldn't they want to keep them out to keep their advantages over conferences that most of the G6 membership left behind? Back in the 80's when it was the MAC and Big West as redheaded stepchildren I would say that would be the course of action if the 70 plus big boys decided to take their ball and go elsewhere. But now with six conferences comprising 67 schools its enough for their own subdivision. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,208 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 10:12:32 PM  Pataskala wrote: From the standpoint of getting to see more Ohio football in a season, I'd pick the FCS option. In a CFP world we'd likely be one and done. You have to make the FCS first. That’s not a given. You lose scholarships and you lose funding, you’d lose coaches. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,137 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 10:53:10 PM  I could see where Akron might want to move down as the ceiling appears to be low for that program. They've only won 8 games one time ever. Only 9,250 undergraduates on campus this fall. 13,633 total and this number is counting 1,967 High School students taking classes on campus. Ohio though has won 11 games, 10 games 3x, 9 games 5x, 8 games 3x over the last 20 seasons. 12 years out of the last 20 have been 8+ win seasons. That includes the COVID year, Frank & TA's first seasons. Then you have a situation where the undergraduate is 19,700 plus another 5,900 graduate. Counting regional students Ohio is 29,625 this year. If I were an Akron fan I'd be wanting FCS but I do not get why any Ohio fans would want that when it means a reduction in TV exposure and revenues. Worse recruiting and lower quality of product on the field. Payday games against G5 programs for 350k instead of 2.35 mil and off national TV. FCS playoff games on ESPN+. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top NashvilleKat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Nashville, TN Post Count: 93 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/20/2024 11:02:01 PM  TWT, Thanks for your smart analysis. Maybe we could put these delusional out of touch FCS morons to bed. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,324 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/21/2024 12:45:16 PM  All of this conversation is probably moot in the next 5-10 years when the Top 20-30 schools break away from the rest. Then the real question becomes what happens after that? Maybe then top FCS schools would be absorbed into the rest and we could play for a real national championship. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,181 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/21/2024 12:52:03 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I may be alone in this, but the FCS option's more appealing to me. It feels like a far less subjective goal, and bowl games are basically just the NIT at this point. If you're not in the playoff, nobody cares, and as a member of one of the 2 lowest ranked FBS conferences, we're unlikely to be in the playoff. I could go either way but I'm afraid that with revenue sharing, the gap is going to only get bigger. It would bet nice to have all the games on Saturday though. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,208 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/21/2024 12:54:46 PM  GoCats105 wrote: All of this conversation is probably moot in the next 5-10 years when the Top 20-30 schools break away from the rest. Then the real question becomes what happens after that? Maybe then top FCS schools would be absorbed into the rest and we could play for a real national championship. Sounds like the NIT of football. The basketball model was so successful, I’m not sure how that one couldn’t work. Back to Top BSC 91 General User Member Since: 4/22/2022 Post Count: 27 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/21/2024 2:53:19 PM  Option 1, and it's not close Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,181 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/22/2024 11:32:19 AM  TWT wrote: I could see where Akron might want to move down as the ceiling appears to be low for that program. They've only won 8 games one time ever. Only 9,250 undergraduates on campus this fall. 13,633 total and this number is counting 1,967 High School students taking classes on campus. Ohio though has won 11 games, 10 games 3x, 9 games 5x, 8 games 3x over the last 20 seasons. 12 years out of the last 20 have been 8+ win seasons. That includes the COVID year, Frank & TA's first seasons. Then you have a situation where the undergraduate is 19,700 plus another 5,900 graduate. Counting regional students Ohio is 29,625 this year. If I were an Akron fan I'd be wanting FCS but I do not get why any Ohio fans would want that when it means a reduction in TV exposure and revenues. Worse recruiting and lower quality of product on the field. Payday games against G5 programs for 350k instead of 2.35 mil and off national TV. FCS playoff games on ESPN+. Not sure where you got that 19,700 figure from. Granted 2024 is missing but these numbers look much different. https://www.ohio.edu/iea/student-data/enrollment/fallenroll Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,137 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/22/2024 12:53:37 PM  Alan Swank wrote: TWT wrote: I could see where Akron might want to move down as the ceiling appears to be low for that program. They've only won 8 games one time ever. Only 9,250 undergraduates on campus this fall. 13,633 total and this number is counting 1,967 High School students taking classes on campus. Ohio though has won 11 games, 10 games 3x, 9 games 5x, 8 games 3x over the last 20 seasons. 12 years out of the last 20 have been 8+ win seasons. That includes the COVID year, Frank & TA's first seasons. Then you have a situation where the undergraduate is 19,700 plus another 5,900 graduate. Counting regional students Ohio is 29,625 this year. If I were an Akron fan I'd be wanting FCS but I do not get why any Ohio fans would want that when it means a reduction in TV exposure and revenues. Worse recruiting and lower quality of product on the field. Payday games against G5 programs for 350k instead of 2.35 mil and off national TV. FCS playoff games on ESPN+. Not sure where you got that 19,700 figure from. Granted 2024 is missing but these numbers look much different. https://www.ohio.edu/iea/student-data/enrollment/fallenroll I was surprised to see the numbers that high but it was the 15th day headcount numbers for fall term 2024 from the Ohio Department of Education. It requires downloading the file. https://highered.ohio.gov/data-reports/data-and-reports-s... The inclusion of HS students I have never found before. Discounting those Ohio has a larger main campus enrollment than Kent State. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top JimLurker34 General User Member Since: 12/7/2023 Location: McArthur, OH Post Count: 244 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/25/2024 12:26:12 AM  I'm an Option #1 man myself. Seems most other posters agree. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,133 Status: Offline     RE: Would You Rather….    Posted: 12/26/2024 3:58:34 PM  If there was an option C, where a separate division/playoff/championship is created for the G5 but the P4 & G5 still intermingle OOC & bowls, I would take that option. If the whole G5 "dropped down" together, from a sheer numbers standpoint there would still be national interest in it. If the conversation is just us as 1 program, going to FCS would just be signing up for irrelevance and as LC points out, with minimal cost savings. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Showing Replies:   26 - 40  of 40 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 397 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 397 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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