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Topic: RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

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M.D.W.S.T
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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 10/22/2023 9:09:18 PM

Trevor Stephens wrote:

After WMU game (Week 8)

CFN: Bahamas Bowl vs New Mexico State (Game been moved stateside at a location TBD)

The Lower.com Bahamas Bowl�?

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 10/23/2023 8:42:54 AM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Trevor Stephens wrote:

After WMU game (Week 8)

CFN: Bahamas Bowl vs New Mexico State (Game been moved stateside at a location TBD)

The Lower.com Bahamas Bowl�?

Cincinnati was pretty crestfallen that they were denied The Chili Bowl at their new soccer stadium. They even had a tv deal lined up with The CW. Here's their chance to step up to the plate (of chili!)

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 10/29/2023 1:38:24 PM

Bowl Eligible (42):Air Force, Alabama, Florida St, Fresno St, GA Southern, Georgia, Georgia St, Iowa, Kansas, Kansas St, Liberty, Louisville, LSU, Memphis, Miami, Miami (OH), Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, N Carolina, N Mex State, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Oregon, Oregon St, Penn St, Rutgers, S Methodist, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Toledo, Troy, Tulane, UCLA, UNLV, USC, Utah, Washington

Ineligible (14): Akron, Arizona St, Connecticut, E Carolina, James Mad, Jksnville St, Kent St, Michigan St, S Mississippi, Sam Hous St, Stanford, U Mass, UL Monroe, Vanderbilt

That includes James Madison, Jacksonville St. and Sam Houston State. JMU and JSU will probably play in a bowl anyway because it looks like there will be a shortage of eligible teams.

Others:
Duke 99.70%
Louisiana 99.70%
Wisconsin 99.60%
Wyoming 99.40%
UTSA 98.60%
Coastal Car 98.40%
W Kentucky 97.00%
W Virginia 96.50%
Arizona 96.10%
S Alabama 95.00%
N Illinois 93.50%
Auburn 89.30%
Minnesota 88.30%
Nebraska 88.30%
NC State 88.10%
Texas St 87.50%
Bowling Grn 85.80%
Clemson 84.00%
Maryland 82.20%
Syracuse 79.70%
Boise St 78.90%
Iowa St 78.90%
Kentucky 78.30%
Wash State 77.00%
Boston Col 76.60%
BYU 73.90%
Florida 71.90%
Fla Atlantic 70.20%
VA Tech 68.70%
San Jose St 67.20%
Miss State 65.70%
Marshall 61.20%
S Florida 59.10%
Utah St 56.40%
Navy 55.60%
Rice 55.10%
TX Christian 54.70%
App State 51.10%
Colorado St 45.90%
UCF 40.70%
GA Tech 39.00%
Central Mich 30.80%
E Michigan 30.70%
Northwestern 30.70%
Illinois 29.90%
Colorado 28.60%
Old Dominion 28.60%
Wake Forest 24.90%
Houston 20.50%
Texas Tech 20.50%
Arkansas St 17.50%
Middle Tenn 15.00%
Arkansas 13.30%
North Texas 13.30%
S Carolina 13.20%
California 12.20%
Tulsa 10.60%
W Michigan 10.40%
Buffalo 9.50%
San Diego St 9.00%
UAB 7.40%
Baylor 5.10%
Florida Intl 4.70%
LA Tech 3.70%
Indiana 1.70%
New Mexico 1.70%
Cincinnati 1.60%
Army 1.50%
Charlotte 1.20%
Nevada 1.00%
Ball St 0.90%
TX El Paso 0.80%
Virginia 0.40%
Pittsburgh 0.30%
Purdue 0.20%
Hawaii 0.10%
Temple 0.10%

Sum is 77.7

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 10/29/2023 3:47:13 PM

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 9 - Updated 10/29/23

USA Today: Camellia Bowl vs Troy

Athlon Sports: 68 Ventures Bowl vs Coastal Carolina

CFN: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming

Action Sports/ Brett McMurphy: Camellia Bowl vs App State

CBS Sports: Cure Bowl vs Tulane

ESPN Bonagura: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs UNLV

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Nebraska

College Sports Madness: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming

FOX Sports: Bahamas Bowl vs Western Kentucky (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/4/2023 6:13:39 PM

Three weeks to go and here's how it's shaping up for the MAC (six bowl affiliations this season):

In: Toledo, MOFO, Ohio

Need a win:
BG (plays at Kent, home vs Toledo, and at WMU)
CMU (plays at WMU, at Ohio, and home vs Toledo)

Need 2 wins:
NIU (plays at home vs BSU, home vs WMU, and at Kent)
EMU (plays at Toledo, home vs Akron, and at Buffalo)

Need to win out:
WMU (plays at home vs CMU, at NIU, and home vs BG)
Buffalo (plays at home vs Ohio, at MOFO, and home vs EMU)

out: Akron, BSU, Kent

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/4/2023 7:46:23 PM

Band was getting ready for the Bahamas Bowl

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/6/2023 7:49:42 PM

TeamRankings sum is 76.7 which is the lowest it has been. James Madison, Jacksonville State and then some 7 loss teams will probably go bowling.

Bowl Eligible (52):Air Force, Alabama, Arizona, Boston Col, Coastal Car, Duke, Florida St, Fresno St, GA Southern, Georgia, Georgia St, Iowa, Kansas, Kansas St, Kentucky, Liberty, Louisville, LSU, Memphis, Miami, Miami (OH), Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, N Carolina, N Mex State, NC State, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Oregon, Oregon St, Penn St, Rutgers, S Methodist, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas St, Toledo, Troy, Tulane, UCLA, UNLV, USC, Utah, UTSA, W Virginia, Washington

Ineligible (22):Akron, Arizona St, Ball St, Cincinnati, Connecticut, E Carolina, James Mad, Jksnville St, Kent St, LA Tech, Michigan St, Middle Tenn, Nevada, Pittsburgh, Purdue, S Mississippi, Sam Hous St, TX El Paso, U Mass, UL Monroe, Vanderbilt, Virginia

W Kentucky 99.30%
Louisiana 97.90%
Wisconsin 97.70%
Clemson 97.50%
Auburn 96.60%
Bowling Grn 93.90%
S Alabama 89.70%
N Illinois 84.70%
App State 79.40%
Utah St 79.30%
Maryland 75.90%
Nebraska 74.00%
Boise St 73.30%
Minnesota 71.30%
GA Tech 69.10%
Iowa St 64.60%
San Jose St 62.20%
Central Mich 59.30%
BYU 57.40%
Illinois 57.00%
VA Tech 56.20%
Arkansas St 55.50%
S Florida 54.00%
Rice 53.70%
UCF 50.30%
Syracuse 49.00%
Fla Atlantic 45.30%
Florida 45.10%
Marshall 39.80%
Texas Tech 36.00%
Houston 34.70%
Colorado St 33.30%
Wash State 32.60%
E Michigan 31.40%
TX Christian 25.80%
Arkansas 25.10%
Miss State 24.90%
Northwestern 24.10%
Wake Forest 21.80%
Old Dominion 21.30%
Army 19.60%
Colorado 19.00%
UAB 18.40%
Navy 13.70%
S Carolina 12.90%
W Michigan 10.60%
California 9.00%
Indiana 9.00%
Buffalo 4.70%
Florida Intl 4.50%
Charlotte 2.20%
North Texas 1.70%
San Diego St 1.70%
Tulsa 0.90%
Temple 0.60%
Hawaii 0.40%
Baylor 0.30%
New Mexico 0.10%
Stanford 0.10%

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/7/2023 10:26:47 AM

Trevor Stephens wrote:

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 9 - Updated 10/29/23

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Nebraska

Would take that every day of the week and twice on Saturday. And in Detroit? Lets go smack Nebraska for Frank.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/7/2023 1:47:55 PM

It'll be interesting to see who replaces Air Force in the CFP ranking tonight. They were unbeaten but ranked below one-loss Tulane last week, then lost to Army so they''re probably going to drop out. Liberty and JMU are unbeaten but Toledo is 8-1 and could be in the mix.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/7/2023 2:48:55 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Trevor Stephens wrote:

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 9 - Updated 10/29/23

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Nebraska

Would take that every day of the week and twice on Saturday. And in Detroit? Lets go smack Nebraska for Frank.

People mock this one but it's probably the easiest and best one for the fanbase. Detroit the day after Xmas is relatively inexpensive. My in-laws are in Akron; easy place to leave the kids. Downtown Detroit is much nicer these days than most Ohioans (unless they live in the NW corner) realize and there is actually plenty to do. Sure, the Bahamas or Orlando is great, but it's really hard to plan that out given the two week notice and turn around on those bowls.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/7/2023 4:02:12 PM

Tymaster wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Trevor Stephens wrote:

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 9 - Updated 10/29/23

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Nebraska

Would take that every day of the week and twice on Saturday. And in Detroit? Lets go smack Nebraska for Frank.

I was there for the Pizza Bowl loss to T'erd in 2009. We bused up from Columbus at sunup, got there abut a half-hour before game time and bused back afterwards with a dinner stop in Findlay. A fun trip. At the time downtown Detroit was undergoing a lot of renovation but still looked better than when I was there in the '70s to take an FCC exam. Of course, that only five or six year after the '68 riots. In 2009 there were neat shops and the Fox Theater. It doesn't really matter where your original seats are located because they usually move everyone to the lower bowl to make the crowd look bigger for TV.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/7/2023 4:50:34 PM

Tymaster wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Trevor Stephens wrote:

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 9 - Updated 10/29/23

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Nebraska

Would take that every day of the week and twice on Saturday. And in Detroit? Lets go smack Nebraska for Frank.

Was at Ford Field for the MACC and it was a lot of fun. Detroit has come a long way. We walked all over the city. Tons of OU alums in the Eastern Market area of town before the game. Basically took over Tin Roof near the stadium after and had a great time despite the loss.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/8/2023 8:31:10 AM

Historically they take a team that did NOT play in the MACC in Detroit for that bowl, right? I would say there is a very high chance we are in that one.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/8/2023 11:53:49 AM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Historically they take a team that did NOT play in the MACC in Detroit for that bowl, right? I would say there is a very high chance we are in that one.

Pretty much - there really doesn't seem to be a huge rhyme or reason to who winds up where relative to MAC Bowls. I truly believe the ESPN/Bowl folks get on the horn with the MAC offices and arrange things that Sunday morning. The next two weeks you will see peeps from the various bowls at the MAC Stadiums.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/8/2023 12:18:56 PM

Tymaster wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Historically they take a team that did NOT play in the MACC in Detroit for that bowl, right? I would say there is a very high chance we are in that one.

For Quick Lane they usually want one of the three MAC Michigans, Toledo, or BG because it's easier to get butts in the seats with them. Ohio does pretty well bringing fans in, but not nearly as well as those five schools do.

Who goes where is usually a matter of whether a team has been to a given bowl and how long it's been. We hadn't been to the Arizona/Barstool Bowl prior to last year, so the MAC sent us there.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/8/2023 11:39:01 PM

Two ee weeks to go and here's how it's shaping up for the MAC (six bowl affiliations this season):

In: Toledo, MOFO, Ohio, BG

Needs a win:
CMU (plays at Ohio and home vs Toledo)

Need to win out:
WMU (plays at NIU and home vs BG)
NIU (plays at home vs WMU and at Kent)
EMU (plays at home vs Akron and at Buffalo)

Out: Kent, Akron, BSU. Buffalo has seven losses but could still be bowl eligible by getting to the MACCG; it would need to win out and have Ohio, BG and MOFO all lose out. Not bloody well likely.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/9/2023 2:42:36 PM

Pataskala wrote:

I'd guess that NIU and EMU have the best shots. Let's hope that it's not CMU, unless they get that other victory against UT!

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/12/2023 4:44:51 PM

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 11 - Updated 11/12/23

USA Today: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming

Athlon Sports: 68 Ventures Bowl vs Coastal Carolina

CFN: Bahamas Bowl vs Western Kentucky (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)

Action Sports/ Brett McMurphy: Boca Raton Bowl vs Georgia Southern (Ohio listed as 1 pt fav)

CBS Sports: Bahamas Bowl vs Jacksonville State (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)

ESPN Bonagura: Arizona Bowl vs UNLV

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois

College Sports Madness: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming

FOX Sports: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Boise State (aka true road game at Boise St as a bowl game)

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/16/2023 9:19:09 PM

How it's shaping up for the MAC into the final week of the regular season (six bowl affiliations this season):

In: Toledo, MOFO, Ohio, BG

Must win:
CMU (plays at home vs Toledo)
NIU (plays at Kent)
EMU (plays at Buffalo)

Out: Kent, Akron, BSU. Buffalo, WMU

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/17/2023 11:45:01 AM

Trevor Stephens wrote:

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 11 - Updated 11/12/23

USA Today: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming
Athlon Sports: 68 Ventures Bowl vs Coastal Carolina
CFN: Bahamas Bowl vs Western Kentucky (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)
Action Sports/ Brett McMurphy: Boca Raton Bowl vs Georgia Southern (Ohio listed as 1 pt fav)
CBS Sports: Bahamas Bowl vs Jacksonville State (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)
ESPN Bonagura: Arizona Bowl vs UNLV
ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois
College Sports Madness: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming
FOX Sports: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Boise State (aka true road game at Boise St as a bowl game)

My rankings:
ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois
-Detroit is a hop kip and a jump for most us + playing a big 10 team also close would be fun

ESPN Bonagura: Arizona Bowl vs UNLV
-I thought Barstool did a great job last year, we were all over social media, the players I know loved it, it was a spectacle for such a small mac bowl game

CFN: Bahamas Bowl vs Western Kentucky (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)
- Charlotte + WKU... I like it.

USA Today: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming
College Sports Madness: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming
-Rematch?

Athlon Sports: 68 Ventures Bowl vs Coastal Carolina
-Say NO to the GMAC bowl, but I do like the match-up with Coastal

I might watch if its on TV where I'm at...

CBS Sports: Bahamas Bowl vs Jacksonville State (Game been moved stateside to Charlotte, N.C.)
FOX Sports: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Boise State (aka true road game at Boise St as a bowl game)
Action Sports/ Brett McMurphy: Boca Raton Bowl vs Georgia Southern (Ohio listed as 1 pt fav)

Last Edited: 11/17/2023 11:45:29 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/17/2023 2:31:01 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

My rankings: ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois
-Detroit is a hop kip and a jump for most us + playing a big 10 team also close would be fun

Trivia point: Illinois is the only B10-18 team we have an all-time winning record against -- 3-2. Peden was 2-2 against his alma mater. Frank was 1-0 against the Illini.

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/17/2023 4:15:09 PM

11/18 UPDATE
Teamrankings sum is 78.8 which went up 2 full teams on Saturday. I was watching yesterday with a few upsets of ineligible teams vs. eligible I was expecting it to.

Eligible (67):Air Force, Alabama, App State, Arizona, Arkansas St, Auburn, Boise St, Boston Col, Bowling Grn, Clemson, Coastal Car, Duke, Florida St, Fresno St, GA Southern, GA Tech, Georgia, Georgia St, Iowa, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Kentucky, Liberty, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Memphis, Miami, Miami (OH), Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, N Carolina, N Mex State, NC State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Oregon, Oregon St, Penn St, Rutgers, S Alabama, S Methodist, San Jose St, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas St, Texas Tech, Toledo, Troy, Tulane, UCLA, UNLV, USC, Utah, UTSA, W Kentucky, W Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Ineligible (41):Akron, Arizona St, Arkansas, Ball St, Baylor, Buffalo, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Colorado, Connecticut, E Carolina, Fla Atlantic, Florida Intl, Hawaii, Houston, Indiana, James Mad, Jksnville St, Kent St, LA Tech, Michigan St, Middle Tenn, Nevada, New Mexico, North Texas, Pittsburgh, Purdue, S Mississippi, Sam Hous St, San Diego St, Stanford, Temple, Tulsa, TX El Paso, U Mass, UAB, UL Monroe, Vanderbilt, Virginia, W Michigan, Wake Forest

Again, that list includes JMU and Jax St. who already have more than six wins and will get to play if the bowls are short of eligible team. With the sum a 78.8 and there being 82 spots that looks very likely though not as sure as it did a few days ago

N Illinois 89.70%
Louisiana 86.20%
UCF 82.10%
Utah St 66.90%
Syracuse 65.70%
Colorado St 64.00%
Rice 63.20%
Illinois 61.60%
VA Tech 61.40%
S Florida 59.60%
Marshall 57.50%
Old Dominion 55.60%
Army 52.70%
Navy 49.60%
Minnesota 39.90%
Nebraska 39.20%
E Michigan 34.40%
S Carolina 33.60%
BYU 23.70%
California 21.70%
Miss State 17.10%
Florida 16.30%
Central Mich 15.20%
TX Christian 13.60%
Wash State 10.60%

Last Edited: 11/19/2023 10:31:17 AM by Victory

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/19/2023 3:37:19 PM

Another aspect of placing teams in bowl games is the number of bowl affiliations and bowl eligible teams in each conference. The MAC has six primary(Bahamas, Camellia, 68 Ventures,, Spud, Barstool and Quick Lane) and five secondary (Cure, Myrtle Beach, Frisco, New Mexico and Boca Raton) affiliations. There's no particular order of selection for the bowls. Secondary affiliations are filled only if slots aren't filled by other conferences as primary selections. Four MAC teams are already in and three others could be.

The number of bowl eligible teams in the other conferences could have an affect on where MAC teams go. Here's where the other conferences stand:

American (4 primary, 8 secondary) -- four teams are in, three others (Navy, USF, Rice could be.
ACC/Notre Dame (9 primary, 3 secondary) -- eight teams are in, three others (GaTecch, VaTech, Syracuse) could be.
B10 (8 primary, 0 secondary) -- eight teams are in, three others (Illinois, Neb, Minn) could be.
B12 (7 primary, 2 secondary) -- eight teams are in, three others (BYU, UCF, TCU) could be.
CUSA (4 primary, 6 secondary) -- four teams are in, no others could be.
MWC (5 primary, 4 secondary) -- five teams are in, two others (CSU, Utah St) could be.
Pac 12 (6 primary, 3 secondary) --seven teams are in, two others (WashSt, Cal) could be.
SEC (8 primary, 2 secondary) -- nine teams are in, three others (Fla, MissSt, SoCar) could be.
Sun Belt (2 primary, 7 secondary) -- nine teams are in, three others (Louisiana, T'erd, ODU) could be.
Other than Notre Dame, no independents are or could become bowl eligible this season.

No two teams that could become bowl eligible play one another this week.

Last Edited: 11/19/2023 3:38:58 PM by Pataskala

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/20/2023 11:04:45 PM

Ohio Bowl Projections - After Week 12 - Updated 11/20/2023

USA Today: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs Wyoming - Dec 23 (Boise, Idaho)

Athlon Sports: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois - Dec 26 (Detroit, Mich)

CFN: Quick Lane Bowl vs Northwestern - Dec 26 (Detroit, Mich)

Action Sports/ Brett McMurphy: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois - Dec 26 (Detroit, Mich) (Ohio line would be +7 )

CBS Sports: Famous Toastery Bowl - vs Jacksonville Statel (aka Bahamas Bowl - Dec 18 Charlotte, NC)

ESPN Bonagura: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs Air Force - Dec 23 (Boise, Idaho)

ESPN Schlabach: Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois - Dec 26 (Detroit, Mich)

FOX Sports: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs Boise State - Dec 23 (Boise, Idaho) (aka True Road Game)

24/7 Sports - Quick Lane Bowl vs Illinois - Dec 26 (Detroit, Mich)

FOX Sports: Idaho Potato Bowl vs Boise State - Dec 23 (Boise, Idaho) (aka true road game)

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RE: Bowl Projections 2023-24

Posted: 11/21/2023 9:37:57 AM

Trevor Stephens wrote:

The Athletic (which is essentially the New York Times) has us in the Myrtle Beach Bowl against James Madison

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