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If this is true then our chances of winning the game will be dramatically decreased. 71 BOBCATS Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/6/2023 8:28:28 AM  As another poster suggested when it came to Rourke, even if the transferring player could play in the bowl game, would they want to risk injury playing in a meaningless game (to some) for a team they will never play for again? Doubtful. They're not going to risk getting hurt playing in the MBB. Back to Top 71 BOBCAT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,854 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/6/2023 8:31:29 AM  I just noticed that the spread changed today from Ohio -2.5 to Ohio +3.5. Obviously, the portal announcements is the cause for this change. 71 BOBCATS Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,290 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/6/2023 9:44:22 AM  I think I read where they expect up to 75% of bowl participants to have their QBs in the transfer portal. Just in Ohio, it’s 80%: OSU, Ohio, Miami and Toledo. Only BG doesn’t lose their QB to the portal and BG is already his THIRD TEAM! I imagine this will absolutely kill ticket sales and TV ratings. You kinda have to wonder if this isn’t the beginning of the end of bowls. Back to Top oubobcatjohn General User Member Since: 1/1/2005 Post Count: 803 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/6/2023 10:05:11 PM  Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/6/2023 11:52:23 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: I think I read where they expect up to 75% of bowl participants to have their QBs in the transfer portal. Just in Ohio, it’s 80%: OSU, Ohio, Miami and Toledo. Only BG doesn’t lose their QB to the portal and BG is already his THIRD TEAM! I imagine this will absolutely kill ticket sales and TV ratings. You kinda have to wonder if this isn’t the beginning of the end of bowls. but according to one poster, our QB leaving is all because of the coach. statistics have zero to do with it!!!! Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,290 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 10:24:09 AM  oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 948 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 10:33:57 AM  Mike Coleman wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. This is caused by the free one-time transfer rule. I still can't find a good reason why this rule was created. Somebody help me understand in terms other than "this is 'Merica" Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,797 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 11:10:42 AM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. This is caused by the free one-time transfer rule. I still can't find a good reason why this rule was created. Somebody help me understand in terms other than "this is 'Merica" The free one-time transfer rule, coupled with the free one-time grad transfer rule... Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,290 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 11:56:04 AM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. This is caused by the free one-time transfer rule. I still can't find a good reason why this rule was created. Somebody help me understand in terms other than "this is 'Merica" The free one-time transfer rule, coupled with the free one-time grad transfer rule... …plus the COVID year. A lot of 23-year-olds out there hitting the portal. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,797 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 12:13:22 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: M.D.W.S.T wrote: spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. This is caused by the free one-time transfer rule. I still can't find a good reason why this rule was created. Somebody help me understand in terms other than "this is 'Merica" The free one-time transfer rule, coupled with the free one-time grad transfer rule... …plus the COVID year. A lot of 23-year-olds out there hitting the portal. If they can find another year for Wigs, I promise to never complain about it again. Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 948 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/7/2023 3:00:45 PM  Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/8/2023 7:55:41 AM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Why bother watching the game. Why are we playing this game. Half our starting offense quit on this team. The TV networks wrecked college football with this semi pro crap. NCAA lost control of this. I refuse to watch any bowl games in protest. MAC needs to drop down to FCS where the post season still matters and players still care. This was last straw. Don't bother coming to Ohio if you aren't a bobcat forever. MAC has become a junior college league where it is 2 and done. The MAC? How about Oklahoma, Oregon State, K-State, and UCLA? It used to be you entered the portal if you didn't play. Now it's the opposite. And the crazy thing is, NIL’s are prohibited from limiting a player to a school. So someone like Dillon Gabriel could take his Oklahoma collective $, keep it, and double dip at his new school. This is caused by the free one-time transfer rule. I still can't find a good reason why this rule was created. Somebody help me understand in terms other than "this is 'Merica" the courts essentially started the transfer portal by consistently striking down the NCAA rule that required an athlete to sit. You can google Tom Mars, he is responsible for basically single handedly forcing this issue. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/8/2023 7:59:45 AM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Free as in NO limits, multiple free moves. This is where people get lost, not that the NCAA was perfect, but all of the current mess has been created by state politicians and the courts. Just like in high school, when people complain about kids moving at that level, that all comes at the hands of the state legislature. But you think about it, over the last 20 years of "school choice", we've created this culture among our young people. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,797 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/8/2023 11:29:16 AM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Honestly, the further this goes the more my mind is changed in the other direction. It always made me mad that kids couldn't transfer without penalty after a coach left or something, but then they got pretty lax with that and I thought it was fine. Kids jumping in and out every year is insane. There has to be some line. I don't think sitting a year is that bad of a penalty. It just makes you stop and think a little more, before you just give it up and move on. They still accept hardship waivers, so you're never truly stuck. There has to be SOME level of academics in this. There should be a responsibility of the NCAA to TRY even if faux-trying, to say you need to have at least 1 full year of transferable credits to transfer to another D1 institution. Something. I mean, Tristan Cox - I'm not sure what this kid is chasing, but he's getting bad advice from someone. At this point he's probably not going to graduate from anywhere before he runs out of eligibility. And that is absolutely tragic. You're getting free school, but not staying anywhere long enough to get credits. 3 colleges in 3 years is not what this should be about, and that's what it becomes. He came from Purdue. Probably thinks he should be the baddest dude on the block in the MAC. He gets here and can't get off the bench, because OU already has some bad dudes in front of him. Instead of staying and fighting - it's where can I go now? They disrespected me. Now where else can I go? Last Edited: 12/8/2023 11:32:02 AM by M.D.W.S.T Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 948 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/8/2023 2:41:44 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Honestly, the further this goes the more my mind is changed in the other direction. It always made me mad that kids couldn't transfer without penalty after a coach left or something, but then they got pretty lax with that and I thought it was fine. Kids jumping in and out every year is insane. There has to be some line. I don't think sitting a year is that bad of a penalty. It just makes you stop and think a little more, before you just give it up and move on. They still accept hardship waivers, so you're never truly stuck. There has to be SOME level of academics in this. There should be a responsibility of the NCAA to TRY even if faux-trying, to say you need to have at least 1 full year of transferable credits to transfer to another D1 institution. Something. I mean, Tristan Cox - I'm not sure what this kid is chasing, but he's getting bad advice from someone. At this point he's probably not going to graduate from anywhere before he runs out of eligibility. And that is absolutely tragic. You're getting free school, but not staying anywhere long enough to get credits. 3 colleges in 3 years is not what this should be about, and that's what it becomes. He came from Purdue. Probably thinks he should be the baddest dude on the block in the MAC. He gets here and can't get off the bench, because OU already has some bad dudes in front of him. Instead of staying and fighting - it's where can I go now? They disrespected me. Now where else can I go? If a coach leaves or is fired I believe the kids should be able to leave as well without penalty, I've always agreed with that. I wonder how far away negotiated contracts are? At this point, what sense does it make to slow-roll these changes? Might as well open it all the way up and just make the whole thing a minor-league like operation. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/8/2023 3:37:36 PM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: M.D.W.S.T wrote: spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Honestly, the further this goes the more my mind is changed in the other direction. It always made me mad that kids couldn't transfer without penalty after a coach left or something, but then they got pretty lax with that and I thought it was fine. Kids jumping in and out every year is insane. There has to be some line. I don't think sitting a year is that bad of a penalty. It just makes you stop and think a little more, before you just give it up and move on. They still accept hardship waivers, so you're never truly stuck. There has to be SOME level of academics in this. There should be a responsibility of the NCAA to TRY even if faux-trying, to say you need to have at least 1 full year of transferable credits to transfer to another D1 institution. Something. I mean, Tristan Cox - I'm not sure what this kid is chasing, but he's getting bad advice from someone. At this point he's probably not going to graduate from anywhere before he runs out of eligibility. And that is absolutely tragic. You're getting free school, but not staying anywhere long enough to get credits. 3 colleges in 3 years is not what this should be about, and that's what it becomes. He came from Purdue. Probably thinks he should be the baddest dude on the block in the MAC. He gets here and can't get off the bench, because OU already has some bad dudes in front of him. Instead of staying and fighting - it's where can I go now? They disrespected me. Now where else can I go? If a coach leaves or is fired I believe the kids should be able to leave as well without penalty, I've always agreed with that. I wonder how far away negotiated contracts are? At this point, what sense does it make to slow-roll these changes? Might as well open it all the way up and just make the whole thing a minor-league like operation. Yost wants to open this entire thing up, with unlimited transfers. Have to wonder with the timing of this, if he's being influcened by someone with some clout in the Akron area? Back to Top mid70sbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 656 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/9/2023 12:11:04 AM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Apparently Dave Yost is suing the NCAA to open it up to free transfers for everybody. I just don't know how I'm supposed to get on board with that lol. Honestly, the further this goes the more my mind is changed in the other direction. It always made me mad that kids couldn't transfer without penalty after a coach left or something, but then they got pretty lax with that and I thought it was fine. Kids jumping in and out every year is insane. There has to be some line. I don't think sitting a year is that bad of a penalty. It just makes you stop and think a little more, before you just give it up and move on. They still accept hardship waivers, so you're never truly stuck. There has to be SOME level of academics in this. There should be a responsibility of the NCAA to TRY even if faux-trying, to say you need to have at least 1 full year of transferable credits to transfer to another D1 institution. Something. I mean, Tristan Cox - I'm not sure what this kid is chasing, but he's getting bad advice from someone. At this point he's probably not going to graduate from anywhere before he runs out of eligibility. And that is absolutely tragic. You're getting free school, but not staying anywhere long enough to get credits. 3 colleges in 3 years is not what this should be about, and that's what it becomes. He came from Purdue. Probably thinks he should be the baddest dude on the block in the MAC. He gets here and can't get off the bench, because OU already has some bad dudes in front of him. Instead of staying and fighting - it's where can I go now? They disrespected me. Now where else can I go? Maybe because he graduated already, met all academic requirements here. LOL. 99.9 percent of these guys know they are not going pro. So, they get a degree. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: Myrtle Beach Bowl Game    Posted: 12/9/2023 9:32:28 AM  One thing that many of you probably do not know, is that these kids who graduate lose any Pell money that they were receiving. In some cases that is substantial, and that is why they enter the Portal, trying to make up what they lost by graduating. Sometimes, that loss is significant. 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