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SBH
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  Message Not Read  2 important MAC men's BB rankings
   Posted: 9/25/2025 9:02:07 AM 

"Player acquisition" budgets:

1. Akron
2. Kent
3. BGSU
4. Buffalo
5. WMU


MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio
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FJC31
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   Posted: 9/25/2025 10:20:24 AM 
SBH wrote:
"Player acquisition" budgets:

1. Akron
2. Kent
3. BGSU
4. Buffalo
5. WMU


MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio







Is there a source where the player acquisition budgets are coming from? One would think ours would be higher after this passed portal season that added Simmons and Breath. The market rate for skilled bigs as we know is at and around 6 figures.

Last Edited: 9/25/2025 10:20:56 AM by FJC31
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   Posted: 9/25/2025 5:16:52 PM 
SBH wrote:

MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio



I'd really like to know how much this plays into attracting and retaining talent. Also wondering if cost weren't an issue, how high on the priority list this would be for the AD.
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   Posted: 9/25/2025 7:14:22 PM 
Today's players want money and amenities. Having to share our court with volleyball and women's bball is a huge competitive disadvantage.
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MonroeClassmate
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   Posted: 9/25/2025 8:17:19 PM 
SBH wrote:
Today's players want money and amenities. Having to share our court with volleyball and women's bball is a huge competitive disadvantage.


Are saying a new practice facility wouldn't allow women? No need to share?
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Deciduous Forest Cat
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   Posted: 9/25/2025 8:20:49 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
SBH wrote:
Today's players want money and amenities. Having to share our court with volleyball and women's bball is a huge competitive disadvantage.


Are saying a new practice facility wouldn't allow women? No need to share?



several teams on one court is the issue. More courts mean more time for all teams.
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 10:25:06 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
SBH wrote:

MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio



I'd really like to know how much this plays into attracting and retaining talent. Also wondering if cost weren't an issue, how high on the priority list this would be for the AD.


Aside from potential scheduling conflicts, which they've been navigating for 100 years, I'd rather have a tricked out locker room, lounge areas, all that type of glitz and glamour you see with big programs. I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw. They'd end up practicing on the actual floor more often than not anyway. Maybe an entire facility like they're building for a couple WNBA teams these days, which they'd still likely share with the women. $15M (one I saw recently) is still a pretty tall order.
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 10:47:33 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
SBH wrote:

MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio



I'd really like to know how much this plays into attracting and retaining talent. Also wondering if cost weren't an issue, how high on the priority list this would be for the AD.


I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw.


I'm sure Jeff Boals and players will be in Peden tomorrow. Why not ask them? I can assure you Boals feels the lack of a practice facility has hurt him in recruiting and player development.


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   Posted: 9/26/2025 10:55:12 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
SBH wrote:

MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio



I'd really like to know how much this plays into attracting and retaining talent. Also wondering if cost weren't an issue, how high on the priority list this would be for the AD.


Aside from potential scheduling conflicts, which they've been navigating for 100 years, I'd rather have a tricked out locker room, lounge areas, all that type of glitz and glamour you see with big programs. I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw. They'd end up practicing on the actual floor more often than not anyway. Maybe an entire facility like they're building for a couple WNBA teams these days, which they'd still likely share with the women. $15M (one I saw recently) is still a pretty tall order.


With four sports (volleyball, wrestling, women's basketball, men's basketball) all using it for competition I can see the value of the practice courts. Also with the location of The Convo on the other side of Richland it makes sense to have more sport locker rooms there and its own weight room which would indirectly help the football team so they don't have to schedule usage of the weight room at Peden around all of the other sports.

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   Posted: 9/26/2025 11:59:27 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw.


Any and every new shiny thing that can be added is a big plus.

Mid-majors who add those will use them as a draw...

https://images.sidearmdev.com/convert?url=https%3a%2f%2fd...


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   Posted: 9/26/2025 3:25:01 PM 
greencat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw.


Any and every new shiny thing that can be added is a big plus.

Mid-majors who add those will use them as a draw...

https://images.sidearmdev.com/convert?url=https%3a%2f%2fd...




That's pretty snazzy. And if they had ability to make a sweet lounge area, I'm sure that would be draw. But if it came down to having a sweet practice floor, or injecting $15M into overall upgrades, and elevating the locker room at the Convo...?

I know what'd I'd choose. Though I'm 20 pounds overweight and have bad knees, so maybe I'm not the target market.
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 3:56:42 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
greencat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw.


Any and every new shiny thing that can be added is a big plus.

Mid-majors who add those will use them as a draw...

https://images.sidearmdev.com/convert?url=https%3a%2f%2fd...




That's pretty snazzy. And if they had ability to make a sweet lounge area, I'm sure that would be draw. But if it came down to having a sweet practice floor, or injecting $15M into overall upgrades, and elevating the locker room at the Convo...?

I know what'd I'd choose. Though I'm 20 pounds overweight and have bad knees, so maybe I'm not the target market.



How many of these mid-majors with practice facilities don't have an on-campus game facility?
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 7:11:10 PM 
If I'm not mistaken, EMU's practice facility is within its arena, same for BG. Not sure about Toledo but would guess SAvage has both under one roof. Akron and Kent practice facilities are essentially in adjoining rec buildings. Not sure about the rest of the MAC.
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 7:16:04 PM 
SBH wrote:
"Player acquisition" budgets:

1. Akron
2. Kent
3. BGSU
4. Buffalo
5. WMU


MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio


I'm not sure I buy these budgets, other than Akron's. Kent has cried for years about lack of funds. No way do I think WMU is Top 5, either. I've always suspected (under Oats and Hurley) the Buffalo had a much bigger budget that it appears to have now.

BG might be about right. They have had some talent, just haven't done much with it. I would hope Ball State and Miami would both be in the top tier, not to mention Umass.

Would love to know where this list originated, and what was the guidelines for making it.
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 7:32:28 PM 
IceCat76 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
greencat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
I can't imagine a dedicated "practice court" is too much of a draw.


Any and every new shiny thing that can be added is a big plus.

Mid-majors who add those will use them as a draw...

https://images.sidearmdev.com/convert?url=https%3a%2f%2fd...




That's pretty snazzy. And if they had ability to make a sweet lounge area, I'm sure that would be draw. But if it came down to having a sweet practice floor, or injecting $15M into overall upgrades, and elevating the locker room at the Convo...?

I know what'd I'd choose. Though I'm 20 pounds overweight and have bad knees, so maybe I'm not the target market.



How many of these mid-majors with practice facilities don't have an on-campus game facility?


The practice gym in that link is a 5 minute walk to their arena.

Which has locker rooms and all...

https://b1292217.smushcdn.com/1292217/wp-content/uploads/...


and yes, a lounge area...

https://b1292217.smushcdn.com/1292217/wp-content/uploads/...

Last Edited: 9/26/2025 7:42:16 PM by greencat
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   Posted: 9/26/2025 7:50:39 PM 
OUcat wrote:
SBH wrote:
"Player acquisition" budgets:

1. Akron
2. Kent
3. BGSU
4. Buffalo
5. WMU


MAC schools without a practice facility:

Ohio


I'm not sure I buy these budgets, other than Akron's. Kent has cried for years about lack of funds. No way do I think WMU is Top 5, either. I've always suspected (under Oats and Hurley) the Buffalo had a much bigger budget that it appears to have now.

BG might be about right. They have had some talent, just haven't done much with it. I would hope Ball State and Miami would both be in the top tier, not to mention Umass.

Would love to know where this list originated, and what was the guidelines for making it.







Western received a $100 million gift for athletics. They paid $90k for a big man who was headed to Athens a couple of years ago.

Last Edited: 9/26/2025 7:58:16 PM by SBH
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