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FJC31
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  Message Not Read  CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/15/2023 10:34:20 AM 
This was surprisingly more in-depth than I was expecting. The writer took the time to research and put us at 94 on the Top 100 CBB teams this upcoming season. Even has us projected with 1st place MAC finish.

He has Wiz starting, but I see the 4 and 5 spots being Ike’s and Clayton’s to lose.

https://cbbreview.com/2023/08/04/cbb-rank-2023-no-94-ohio... /

Last Edited: 8/15/2023 10:36:09 AM by FJC31
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/15/2023 10:50:25 AM 
Is the guy using high school recruiting profiles to get athletes' heights and weights? If you told me AJ Clayton was 6-10 230, I'd believe you. What's this 6-7 195 stuff?

I think with this roster makeup, it would not utilize the team's strengths to put two of Wiz, Clayton, and Ezuma on the floor at the same time. Use Cornish and Hadaway as your second height guys. Expand on your three point shooting and turnover rate strengths the article mentions.
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/15/2023 3:35:12 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Is the guy using high school recruiting profiles to get athletes' heights and weights? If you told me AJ Clayton was 6-10 230, I'd believe you. What's this 6-7 195 stuff?

I think with this roster makeup, it would not utilize the team's strengths to put two of Wiz, Clayton, and Ezuma on the floor at the same time. Use Cornish and Hadaway as your second height guys. Expand on your three point shooting and turnover rate strengths the article mentions.



For better or worse, Cornish is our starting 4 man.

Too many good shooters on this team and not enough height or toughness, I'm not mad about playing small ball as long as we can get a combination of STRONG rotational minutes from Clayton, Wiz, Hadaway, IJ. 20-15 out of those 4 would go a long way in taking the pressure of Hunter/AJB/Elmore/Miles to score 70 every night.

Last Season:
Clayton, Wiz, Hadaway: 13.3 pts + 9.3 rbs

Hopefully they can replicate DW3 (15.4 + 9.2) as best we can. If Clayton can take a giant leap forward, that could change the trajectory of the entire season.

Adding in Ike, I don't think it's a lot to expect 7/4 (Clayton's #). IJ some toughness and rebounding.

I think 1st will be tough - but the team should be *vastly* improved and able to score in bunches.
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Taiwan BC
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/17/2023 10:55:52 AM 
https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Bart Torvik’s 2024 projections. Ohio at 132. The only team he has ahead of us on our known schedule is Kent St. at 97… If we can play consistent D from the get go that eliminates some variability in overall performance, we should be looking at a LOT of wins.

Go Bobcats!!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/20/2023 12:46:11 PM 
Taiwan BC wrote:
https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Bart Torvik’s 2024 projections. Ohio at 132. The only team he has ahead of us on our known schedule is Kent St. at 97… If we can play consistent D from the get go that eliminates some variability in overall performance, we should be looking at a LOT of wins.

Go Bobcats!!!


Kent lost a lot but with a guy like Bass coming in there it feels like they should be the favorite. Toledo lost a lot too and you would think take a little step back but that is a step back from three in a row. Akron got Ali back in the fold after losing some other key players. Ball State isn't going to get into contention with what they have and you'd think it will take at least a year for George Halcovage at Buffalo. That's a really young team. This isn't the MAC from the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s. If a team other than Ohio, Kent State, Toledo, or Akron wins the regular season title I'd be pretty surprised. I'd look at a regular season championship as about 60% luck and 40% team quality. The tournament is more like 85%/15% so anything could happen there and I would not be nearly as surprised.
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FJC31
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/20/2023 2:06:48 PM 
Victory wrote:
Taiwan BC wrote:
https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

Bart Torvik’s 2024 projections. Ohio at 132. The only team he has ahead of us on our known schedule is Kent St. at 97… If we can play consistent D from the get go that eliminates some variability in overall performance, we should be looking at a LOT of wins.

Go Bobcats!!!


Kent lost a lot but with a guy like Bass coming in there it feels like they should be the favorite. Toledo lost a lot too and you would think take a little step back but that is a step back from three in a row. Akron got Ali back in the fold after losing some other key players. Ball State isn't going to get into contention with what they have and you'd think it will take at least a year for George Halcovage at Buffalo. That's a really young team. This isn't the MAC from the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s. If a team other than Ohio, Kent State, Toledo, or Akron wins the regular season title I'd be pretty surprised. I'd look at a regular season championship as about 60% luck and 40% team quality. The tournament is more like 85%/15% so anything could happen there and I would not be nearly as surprised.


Count me as more concerned with stopping Chris Payton than Bass. Payton was a beast once MAC play started. It’ll be interesting to see if Bass’ final 5 games were a mirage or improvement in terms of shooting %. Or, if he really is just a volume shooter.

Agreed on Toledo. I think it takes a step back. Especially since Dennis chose not to stick around.

I think you can split hairs between Akron, Kent, and ourselves this year.
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OUcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 8/31/2023 5:55:49 PM 
Carry and Jacobs toted a lot of Water for Kent State. So while I agree Payton can be a load ... the ??? is can he be the man. Even if he is, a new backcourt at Kent is still an unknown.

Akron w/Ali back at SF w/Hunter at PF makes the Zips the best baseline in the league, hand down. But like Kent, the ??? will be a new backcourt.

Between Ohio-Akron-Kent the most productive backcourt gets the nod.
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FJC31
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  Message Not Read  RE: CBB Review Article
   Posted: 9/1/2023 3:07:02 PM 
Blue Ribbon apparently thinks Payton can be the guy. Preseason 1st team All MAC with Jaylin, Maddox, Ali, and Freeman. Picks us 2nd to Akron. Slightly bias, but I’d choose AJB over Maddox.

Last Edited: 9/1/2023 3:07:25 PM by FJC31
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