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Maddog13
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  Message Not Read  Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/11/2023 12:19:40 AM 
The Hustle played their first game of the season and Jason looked great!!!

https://memphis.gleague.nba.com/roste
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/11/2023 2:57:31 PM 
I saw a few highlights, he looked steady as he always does. Efficient scoring. Letting the game come to him.

17-6-5

Problem is he's always going to be that 15-5-5 guy - a super smart, super steady player, with a high floor - getting outshined by the other guy who can go off for 30 every few games.

David Johnson, another guard, had 27 points in 26 minutes, to go along with 4 assists.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/12/2023 6:02:44 PM 
How can it be a "problem" to be a 15-5-5 guy?

From what I saw in Summer League, the guys who "go off" for 30 are usually volume shooters who need to fire up a ton of shots to get their points. Why is a player like that a better option for an NBA exec than a player like Preston?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/12/2023 8:36:02 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
How can it be a "problem" to be a 15-5-5 guy?

From what I saw in Summer League, the guys who "go off" for 30 are usually volume shooters who need to fire up a ton of shots to get their points. Why is a player like that a better option for an NBA exec than a player like Preston?


From my perspective that's a very good question, Jeff, and one I've wondered about myself, but since my BBIQ is not that high I thought it might be too stupid a question to ask on BA. Now that you've posed it, I await the answers of the high BBIQ BA intelligentsia.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/13/2023 2:40:12 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
How can it be a "problem" to be a 15-5-5 guy?

From what I saw in Summer League, the guys who "go off" for 30 are usually volume shooters who need to fire up a ton of shots to get their points. Why is a player like that a better option for an NBA exec than a player like Preston?


From my perspective that's a very good question, Jeff, and one I've wondered about myself, but since my BBIQ is not that high I thought it might be too stupid a question to ask on BA. Now that you've posed it, I await the answers of the high BBIQ BA intelligentsia.


From my perspective, it's similar to why you have 18 year olds who average 4 points and 3 rebounds in Bahrain getting drafted over seniors who average 25/10 at national powers.

Zach Edey is going to win National Player of the Year again. And he is projected to be the LAST pick of the 2024 NBA Draft. Armando Bacott isn't projected to be drafted at all.

You know who is 1st? Alexandre Sarr... he averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds in the Overtime Elite League last year. He's currently averaging 9/5 in Australia.

Why? His ceiling appears to be higher. 15-5-5 is probably JP's ceiling. If that's why you want, you'll probably get it almost every night. He's 24. He's a little older. He's a steady player. NBA GM's want someone who can also go above that. Thats why they kept BJ Boston, who was stuck in the g-league with JP all year. He's 21. Averaged 22. He's a volume shooter.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2024

Last Edited: 11/13/2023 2:40:50 PM by M.D.W.S.T

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/13/2023 5:06:41 PM 
I guess I'm asking how a volume shooter is more valuable to an NBA team than a 15-5-5 guy?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/13/2023 5:29:39 PM 
First glance at this thread title and I thought JP invented a new dance move.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/14/2023 12:14:19 PM 
Preston is solid. But he is not special or elite and his skills are not elite (except to us). 15-5-5 is a ceiling in g-league or summer league. He wouldn't sniff that in the NBA. He's not super athletic, nor lightening quick. Doesn't have an NBA knock down shot. And he is getting old (for NBA potential). His court vision is exceptional - but that has limited individual ceiling.

NBA drafts potential - and once you get past the first 16 picks it's often just to round out the bench and possibly find that rare hidden gem. His (potential), unfortunately is dwindling. Preston needs to be on the court to make his "steady" of value. The NBA doesn't look to G-league to find heavy minute folks. Looking more for explosive scorer, leaper or defender who can give them an occasional surge - not what he does.

College numbers and game does not translate to NBA - see Drew Timme (g-league now) and Eddy - headed same route. It's a small margin, but a huge valley between ok and good. The difference between a .250 hitter and a .300 is a hit a week. The difference between a Korn Ferry tour player and a PGA player is a shot a round. It keeps people chasing the dream, but athletes/players don't simply get better at that age.

He was in the wrong system/organization in LA - but it served him well financially. Memphis may be better - but it will most likely be the last NBA stop - too many others with potential coming out each year. The G-league is not financially structured to support hanging on year over year. However the G-league is a viable runway to the NBA. Overseas provides less the runway and more the financial gain (versus G-league). And his game translates well to the the game overseas (more fluid, passing, etc.). Hopefully he can stay on the Hustle roster all year with an occasional call-up (though his best shot at call up was probably with Morant on suspension), spark a little more interest and then see what happens. My guess is he pockets the LA money, gives it his all with the Hustle and then sets himself up for life playing overseas for 4-5 years.

Last Edited: 11/14/2023 12:14:48 PM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/14/2023 7:03:02 PM 
Thanks for the post. You could be correct.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/17/2023 10:43:20 PM 
Marcus Smart out 3-5 weeks. Does JP get the call up?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/19/2023 4:38:27 PM 
preston averaging 15.5 / 7.5 / 6.5

memphis is on next Sunday afternoon (26th) at 4:00 on the NBA Channel
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/26/2023 7:35:37 PM 
triple double

https://x.com/nbagleague/status/1728924334893461885?s=46&...

Last Edited: 11/26/2023 9:35:28 PM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 11/27/2023 2:22:36 PM 
Nice!


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 12/7/2023 11:04:51 AM 
If Jason is still with Memphis in March, I'll get to see him play against the Portland Remix. They play at the University of Portland gym (where a bunch of us OU alums watched D.J. and the boys beat UP in the 2012 season).

There is a pretty good G-League story in one of our weekly's:
https://www.wweek.com/sports/2023/12/05/the-nba-g-league-...

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 12/27/2023 9:02:04 PM 
Preston with a triple double tonight.

18 points / 14 assists / 12 rebounds

Hustle went from up 10 to down 4 when he sat in the 2nd half.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 12/28/2023 12:39:55 PM 
Wow what a line


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 12/31/2023 10:08:22 AM 
Came across this article on SI.

"Should Spurs Sign Jason Preston?"

https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/nba-free-agency-should-...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 1/8/2024 10:40:31 PM 
Ja Morant with torn labrum - will miss entire season.

No word yet if Preston gets called up.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 1/9/2024 8:11:24 AM 
Preston signed a two way deal with Utah last night. Good spot where he'll likely see NBA minutes.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 1/9/2024 10:27:48 AM 
Preston picked up by the Jazz. Yuck.

Utah is one of the worst spots he could go.

Unless there are a plethora of injuries Utah currently has FIVE guards averaging 4+ assists, and a lot of recent draft picks.

PG Dunn - former #5 pick on a guaranteed contract, has started about half of Utah's games this season because he's a great defender.
SG / PG Sexton - Other starting guard who shares the ball with Dunn.

PG Clarkson - 6th man legend, having a career year off the bench. Leads team in assists.
PG Keyonte George - was their 16th pick last season. Playing well.
SG Ochai Agbaji - lottery pick in 2022. Started about half the games before Dunn.
PG / SG Horten-Tucker - is great back-up. Averages 11/3/4 in 20 minutes.

SG Sensabaugh in the G League
SG Juzang on a two-way

I hope they give him an actual chance at some PT, but like Memphis it feels more like a G-League move to continue developing Juzang, Sensabaugh (1st rounder last year) and Micah Potter.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 1/9/2024 3:01:13 PM 
The Jazz'll move guys before the deadline. Clarkson is probably most likely to go, and they'll float Sexton, too. Horton-Tucker, too who is on an expiring deal.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 1/9/2024 6:09:44 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Preston signed a two way deal with Utah last night. Good spot where he'll likely see NBA minutes.


2-way. 2 year. max amount ($502,000 per year). fully guaranteed.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 2/4/2024 7:45:26 PM 
Itís too bad JP got traded from Memphis.

They have TWELVE PEOPLE injured tonight.

They had to sign damn near the entire G League team to 10-day contacts.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 2/7/2024 5:11:13 PM 
I watched JP's Salt Lake game around a week ago that was on ESPN+. I love the kid, but I think it's time to accept that he's going to be a G-League level player. I'm sure he could go to Europe and play, but I'm guessing G-League money is better? Or at least close enough to not justify moving/living in Europe? He was on pace for a triple double in the game I watched and sat for a huge portion of the 4th because a guy off the bench hit a few quick shots and they tried to ride the hot hand. I think Jason finished with 10-8-8 in that game. At this point, I feel like it's clear that his skill set either won't translate to the NBA level or doesn't appeal to the NBA level. Players with a more selfish game that look to score first (and second, and third) seem to get more "love." I hope he continues to make a good living off of the game, I just don't see it happening at the NBA level.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Preston with the Memphis Hustle
   Posted: 2/7/2024 8:58:08 PM 
100%Cat wrote:
I watched JP's Salt Lake game around a week ago that was on ESPN+. I love the kid, but I think it's time to accept that he's going to be a G-League level player. I'm sure he could go to Europe and play, but I'm guessing G-League money is better? Or at least close enough to not justify moving/living in Europe? He was on pace for a triple double in the game I watched and sat for a huge portion of the 4th because a guy off the bench hit a few quick shots and they tried to ride the hot hand. I think Jason finished with 10-8-8 in that game. At this point, I feel like it's clear that his skill set either won't translate to the NBA level or doesn't appeal to the NBA level. Players with a more selfish game that look to score first (and second, and third) seem to get more "love." I hope he continues to make a good living off of the game, I just don't see it happening at the NBA level.


I'm sure he could make a healthy living in Europe, but the NBA carrot doesn't dangle over there. The G-League gives you the appearance of any given night.. you can get the call.

It's a cliche but really... all it takes is one big game. Heads turn. People take notice. He just needs a chance. At this point, he's not in a position to turn down offers - I'm not sure anyone in the G-League is - but I'd like to see him on a team with a true need at G. Every team he's been on, he's been there to run an offense for the true g-league star (Sensabaugh, Juzang).
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