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   Posted: 8/8/2024 6:10:11 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Miami is the second MAC team to release their non con. Not much. Six home games (two non D1s, two low majors, Air Force, and Wright), buy games at Michigan and IU, small neutral site tourney.



To begin with .. I believe every MAC team should have at least two power conference teams on the schedule, with teams like Ohio and Akron (MAC favorites) perhaps having three.

Does that mean maybe just seven or eight non-conference wins. So what, quality MAC teams (Top 4) should win 12 conference games or more for a total of 20 wins.

Earn a MAC Tournament title and that means 23 or 24 wins. I'd rather see that, with a Top 100 RPI or better, vs. a 27-28 win MAC team with a 125-plus RPI.

That's hard to get even with a top-heavy quality mid-major non-con schedule. If that non-con sked does not have a bunch of A-10, WCC, C-USA, American teams on the list - and you win the bulk of those games - you're fooling yourself about how good your team is.

The MAC should look for a Top 10 NCAA Tournament seed, annually. You're whistling through the grave yard with a 12 or 13 seed, and hoping for a NCAA upset. Yes, it happens, but not often.

Prepare yourself early, to win late.

IMO.
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   Posted: 8/8/2024 7:38:57 PM 
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The MAC should look for a Top 10 NCAA Tournament seed, annually. You're whistling through the grave yard with a 12 or 13 seed, and hoping for a NCAA upset. Yes, it happens, but not often.


Interestingly, 10 and 11 seeds basically win at exactly the same rate (38%), and 12 seeds win 34% of the time. But 13, there's a sharp drop off (21%).

9 seeds are the only "underdog" that win more than they lose.
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   Posted: 8/8/2024 8:37:14 PM 
I played in the NIL Golf Scramble at Little Mountain today and Coach Boals said we just finalized a deal to play at Memphis in the last few days. He also said there is one more game to get done still.

By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.
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   Posted: 8/8/2024 9:46:34 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
I played in the NIL Golf Scramble at Little Mountain today and Coach Boals said we just finalized a deal to play at Memphis in the last few days. He also said there is one more game to get done still.



That's a fun one. If it's a weekend, it's a fun trip.
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   Posted: 8/9/2024 7:26:00 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
I played in the NIL Golf Scramble at Little Mountain today and Coach Boals said we just finalized a deal to play at Memphis in the last few days. He also said there is one more game to get done still.



That's a fun one. If it's a weekend, it's a fun trip.


Great Pick-up. It's not a power conference game, per se, but like a matchup vs. Gonzaga, it fits the bill. Congrats to Boals. Now let's get another one just like that or better!!!
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   Posted: 8/9/2024 8:33:33 AM 
OUcat wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
I played in the NIL Golf Scramble at Little Mountain today and Coach Boals said we just finalized a deal to play at Memphis in the last few days. He also said there is one more game to get done still.



That's a fun one. If it's a weekend, it's a fun trip.


Great Pick-up. It's not a power conference game, per se, but like a matchup vs. Gonzaga, it fits the bill. Congrats to Boals. Now let's get another one just like that or better!!!




Love the add of Memphis. That puts as at 9 known games so far for non-conference. James Madison, Davidson, Memphis, and a chance to play Bradley/USF/Princeton in Myrtle. Pretty solid so far.

Guessing two buy games at home and another solid road/neutral game.

Edit -- I'll add Austin Peay as a strong home game. Finished season 9-1 before losing in ASUN finals to Stetson by 3. Return Sai Witt. Who didn't see a lot of action against us, but averaged 22ppg during that run for AP.

Last Edited: 8/9/2024 8:50:08 AM by FJC31
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   Posted: 8/9/2024 12:43:08 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.


I wanted to go but couldn't make it up there. Would love to see one in the Columbus area. Pretty cool that you got that much interaction with the whole roster.

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   Posted: 8/9/2024 2:00:36 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.


I wanted to go but couldn't make it up there. Would love to see one in the Columbus area. Pretty cool that you got that much interaction with the whole roster.


I specifically mentioned to Coach that a few of these sprinkled around the state would be a good idea each year. I hadn't even laced up my shoes and coach came over to shake my hand and shoot the breeze for a minute. He's an outstanding representative for Ohio University.

The entire roster stayed the night before in an AirBnB not far away. Seemed like the vibe was good top to bottom.

Other news nugget...Boals recently moved to Athens. That can't be a bad thing!
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   Posted: 8/9/2024 5:15:39 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.


I wanted to go but couldn't make it up there. Would love to see one in the Columbus area. Pretty cool that you got that much interaction with the whole roster.


I specifically mentioned to Coach that a few of these sprinkled around the state would be a good idea each year. I hadn't even laced up my shoes and coach came over to shake my hand and shoot the breeze for a minute. He's an outstanding representative for Ohio University.

The entire roster stayed the night before in an AirBnB not far away. Seemed like the vibe was good top to bottom.

Other news nugget...Boals recently moved to Athens. That can't be a bad thing!


Outstanding report. All money raised goes to NIL. I have a feeling they will rotate it each year. Columbus I think they will get a bigger draw. Good news concerning Memphis.

Last Edited: 8/10/2024 12:27:30 PM by FearLeon

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   Posted: 8/10/2024 7:14:40 AM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.


I wanted to go but couldn't make it up there. Would love to see one in the Columbus area. Pretty cool that you got that much interaction with the whole roster.


I specifically mentioned to Coach that a few of these sprinkled around the state would be a good idea each year. I hadn't even laced up my shoes and coach came over to shake my hand and shoot the breeze for a minute. He's an outstanding representative for Ohio University.

The entire roster stayed the night before in an AirBnB not far away. Seemed like the vibe was good top to bottom.

Other news nugget...Boals recently moved to Athens. That can't be a bad thing!


His son graduated high school, daughter already at college. No need to stay in New Albany any longer.
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   Posted: 8/11/2024 1:23:05 PM 
FJC31 wrote:


Love the add of Memphis. That puts as at 9 known games so far for non-conference. James Madison, Davidson, Memphis, and a chance to play Bradley/USF/Princeton in Myrtle. Pretty solid so far.

Guessing two buy games at home and another solid road/neutral game.

Edit -- I'll add Austin Peay as a strong home game. Finished season 9-1 before losing in ASUN finals to Stetson by 3. Return Sai Witt. Who didn't see a lot of action against us, but averaged 22ppg during that run for AP.


As you say, that's 9. Since we are in the Myrtle Beach Invitational, I think that means we can play 13, right? Do we know if the Memphis game is a payout game ot the front end of a home and home?

Games with known dates listed on D1 Docket
4-Nov at JMU MAC/SBC
21-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
22-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
24-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
7-Dec at Marshall
2-Feb TBD MAC/SBC

Leaked games
TBA Austin Peay
TBA vs. Davidson Charlotte
TBA at Memphis

History says that there will be exactly one home game with a non-D1. As you say there is a decent chance of at least one other bought home game with a low major. I'm sure we are wanting to nail down at least one payout game with a P4/Big East if we can. Maybe two. That's not a guarantee though. As D1 expands and the p4 play 20 conference games, those are harder to come by.
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   Posted: 8/12/2024 1:38:20 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
By the way, a really fun event but it was not well attended. Every player on the team and coaching staff was there and interacting with the players. Lots of little games along the way with challenges against the players (cornhole, spin a ball on your finger longer, jump shots, closer than Coach Boals to the pin, out drive Coach Ness). It sounded like this is something they may do more of so if any golfers out there are interested next time around I highly recommend it.


I wanted to go but couldn't make it up there. Would love to see one in the Columbus area. Pretty cool that you got that much interaction with the whole roster.


I specifically mentioned to Coach that a few of these sprinkled around the state would be a good idea each year. I hadn't even laced up my shoes and coach came over to shake my hand and shoot the breeze for a minute. He's an outstanding representative for Ohio University.

The entire roster stayed the night before in an AirBnB not far away. Seemed like the vibe was good top to bottom.

Other news nugget...Boals recently moved to Athens. That can't be a bad thing!


His son graduated high school, daughter already at college. No need to stay in New Albany any longer.


Other than going from a New Albany Country Club regular to friday nights at Bennigans, I suppose.
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   Posted: 8/12/2024 6:09:04 PM 
New H/H starting at Illinois State 11/12 -> https://x.com/roccomiller8/status/1823064311260172764?s=4...

Illinois State went 15-17 a season ago. First glance — best players returning are Malachi Poindexter and Jonny Kinziger who both averaged 9ppg. Added NDSU transfer Boden Skunberg (what a name) who put up 14ppg last season.

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   Posted: 8/12/2024 6:18:57 PM 
Victory wrote:
FJC31 wrote:


Love the add of Memphis. That puts as at 9 known games so far for non-conference. James Madison, Davidson, Memphis, and a chance to play Bradley/USF/Princeton in Myrtle. Pretty solid so far.

Guessing two buy games at home and another solid road/neutral game.

Edit -- I'll add Austin Peay as a strong home game. Finished season 9-1 before losing in ASUN finals to Stetson by 3. Return Sai Witt. Who didn't see a lot of action against us, but averaged 22ppg during that run for AP.


As you say, that's 9. Since we are in the Myrtle Beach Invitational, I think that means we can play 13, right? Do we know if the Memphis game is a payout game ot the front end of a home and home?

Games with known dates listed on D1 Docket
4-Nov at JMU MAC/SBC
21-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
22-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
24-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
7-Dec at Marshall
2-Feb TBD MAC/SBC

Leaked games
TBA Austin Peay
TBA vs. Davidson Charlotte
TBA at Memphis

History says that there will be exactly one home game with a non-D1. As you say there is a decent chance of at least one other bought home game with a low major. I'm sure we are wanting to nail down at least one payout game with a P4/Big East if we can. Maybe two. That's not a guarantee though. As D1 expands and the p4 play 20 conference games, those are harder to come by.


Now we’re at 10 with another road game at Illinois State. Might be it for D1 opponents this non-conference season, we’ll see.

I think in general, multiple quality/exciting non-conference home games a season are going to harder to come by for MM moving forward. Neutral sites and tourneys are going to be required to beef up the schedule as alternatives to true road games at P5’s.

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   Posted: 8/12/2024 7:33:38 PM 
FJC31 wrote:
Victory wrote:
FJC31 wrote:


Love the add of Memphis. That puts as at 9 known games so far for non-conference. James Madison, Davidson, Memphis, and a chance to play Bradley/USF/Princeton in Myrtle. Pretty solid so far.

Guessing two buy games at home and another solid road/neutral game.

Edit -- I'll add Austin Peay as a strong home game. Finished season 9-1 before losing in ASUN finals to Stetson by 3. Return Sai Witt. Who didn't see a lot of action against us, but averaged 22ppg during that run for AP.


As you say, that's 9. Since we are in the Myrtle Beach Invitational, I think that means we can play 13, right? Do we know if the Memphis game is a payout game ot the front end of a home and home?

Games with known dates listed on D1 Docket
4-Nov at JMU MAC/SBC
21-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
22-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
24-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
7-Dec at Marshall
2-Feb TBD MAC/SBC

Leaked games
TBA Austin Peay
TBA vs. Davidson Charlotte
TBA at Memphis

History says that there will be exactly one home game with a non-D1. As you say there is a decent chance of at least one other bought home game with a low major. I'm sure we are wanting to nail down at least one payout game with a P4/Big East if we can. Maybe two. That's not a guarantee though. As D1 expands and the p4 play 20 conference games, those are harder to come by.


Now we’re at 10 with another road game at Illinois State. Might be it for D1 opponents this non-conference season, we’ll see.

I think in general, multiple quality/exciting non-conference home games a season are going to harder to come by for MM moving forward. Neutral sites and tourneys are going to be required to beef up the schedule as alternatives to true road games at P5’s.



They have to be looking at a non-D1 for a cheap extra home game, a payout road game with a p4, and a decent mid-major to start a new home and home with in Athens this year to get the 13. I can't say that's what will happen but you'd think that would be the goal.

Last Edited: 8/12/2024 7:34:04 PM by Victory
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M.D.W.S.T wrote:



Other than going from a New Albany Country Club regular to friday nights at Bennigans, I suppose.


There are only seven Bennigan's left and none are in Ohio.
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   Posted: 8/13/2024 8:32:55 AM 
Victory wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
Victory wrote:
FJC31 wrote:


Love the add of Memphis. That puts as at 9 known games so far for non-conference. James Madison, Davidson, Memphis, and a chance to play Bradley/USF/Princeton in Myrtle. Pretty solid so far.

Guessing two buy games at home and another solid road/neutral game.

Edit -- I'll add Austin Peay as a strong home game. Finished season 9-1 before losing in ASUN finals to Stetson by 3. Return Sai Witt. Who didn't see a lot of action against us, but averaged 22ppg during that run for AP.


As you say, that's 9. Since we are in the Myrtle Beach Invitational, I think that means we can play 13, right? Do we know if the Memphis game is a payout game ot the front end of a home and home?

Games with known dates listed on D1 Docket
4-Nov at JMU MAC/SBC
21-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
22-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
24-Nov vs. TBA Myrtle Beach
7-Dec at Marshall
2-Feb TBD MAC/SBC

Leaked games
TBA Austin Peay
TBA vs. Davidson Charlotte
TBA at Memphis

History says that there will be exactly one home game with a non-D1. As you say there is a decent chance of at least one other bought home game with a low major. I'm sure we are wanting to nail down at least one payout game with a P4/Big East if we can. Maybe two. That's not a guarantee though. As D1 expands and the p4 play 20 conference games, those are harder to come by.


Now we’re at 10 with another road game at Illinois State. Might be it for D1 opponents this non-conference season, we’ll see.

I think in general, multiple quality/exciting non-conference home games a season are going to harder to come by for MM moving forward. Neutral sites and tourneys are going to be required to beef up the schedule as alternatives to true road games at P5’s.



They have to be looking at a non-D1 for a cheap extra home game, a payout road game with a p4, and a decent mid-major to start a new home and home with in Athens this year to get the 13. I can't say that's what will happen but you'd think that would be the goal.


I didn’t realize we got 13 games. Yea, ideally the remaining 3 consist of a new H/H with another MM (with us getting home this season) and road power conference game. The non-d1 game seems inevitable. Which I think we could all live with based on how the schedule continues to shake out.
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   Posted: 8/13/2024 9:30:04 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
New H/H starting at Illinois State 11/12 -> https://x.com/roccomiller8/status/1823064311260172764?s=4...

Illinois State went 15-17 a season ago. First glance — best players returning are Malachi Poindexter and Jonny Kinziger who both averaged 9ppg. Added NDSU transfer Boden Skunberg (what a name) who put up 14ppg last season.


I believe I-State coach Ryan Pedon & Boals were assistants together at OSU?

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   Posted: 8/13/2024 10:12:45 AM 
Remember, they got a transfer last year that Ohio was very interested in. But isn't he transferring again?
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Andrew Ruck wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
New H/H starting at Illinois State 11/12 -> https://x.com/roccomiller8/status/1823064311260172764?s=4...

Illinois State went 15-17 a season ago. First glance — best players returning are Malachi Poindexter and Jonny Kinziger who both averaged 9ppg. Added NDSU transfer Boden Skunberg (what a name) who put up 14ppg last season.


I believe I-State coach Ryan Pedon & Boals were assistants together at OSU?


They just missed each other. Boals left for Stony prior to Pedon landing at OSU. He did however, coach under Groce and Illinois and Holtmann at Butler. Basically, same coaching tree.

Jeff -- Myles Foster. He's at Clemson now.
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   Posted: 8/14/2024 11:12:32 AM 
MAC schedule has dropped -> https://x.com/ohiombasketball/status/1823738069817647436?...
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   Posted: 8/14/2024 11:31:02 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
MAC schedule has dropped -> https://x.com/ohiombasketball/status/1823738069817647436?...


Home game weekends:

1/11 NIU
1/25 Kent State
2/8 MAC/SB Challenge? Is this a home game the 2nd time around?
2/22 Akron
3/1 Miami

Three biggest rivals on Saturdays is awesome, but at least one of those will get flexed to Friday for sure.
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   Posted: 8/14/2024 11:49:29 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
MAC schedule has dropped -> https://x.com/ohiombasketball/status/1823738069817647436?...


Home game weekends:

1/11 NIU
1/25 Kent State
2/8 MAC/SB Challenge? Is this a home game the 2nd time around?
2/22 Akron
3/1 Miami

Three biggest rivals on Saturdays is awesome, but at least one of those will get flexed to Friday for sure.


Hopefully it's no more than one that gets flexed. And the MAC/SB challenge on 2/8 is a home game and actually Sibs weekend. That should help boost the crowd against an unfamiliar opponent.

Aside from at Central Michigan, all our road weekend games are in-state. All of our home weekday games are against MAC "West" teams.

One other nice nugget, the games on 1/11, 1/25, and 3/1 are currently set to be double-headers with the women, but of course subject to change with game(s) flexed to Friday.

Could be fun times in the Convo.
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   Posted: 8/14/2024 12:11:25 PM 
I would bet pretty heavily on the Akron game being flexed.
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   Posted: 8/14/2024 12:26:41 PM 
shabamon wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
MAC schedule has dropped -> https://x.com/ohiombasketball/status/1823738069817647436?...


Home game weekends:

1/11 NIU
1/25 Kent State
2/8 MAC/SB Challenge? Is this a home game the 2nd time around?
2/22 Akron
3/1 Miami

Three biggest rivals on Saturdays is awesome, but at least one of those will get flexed to Friday for sure.


Hopefully it's no more than one that gets flexed. And the MAC/SB challenge on 2/8 is a home game and actually Sibs weekend. That should help boost the crowd against an unfamiliar opponent.

Aside from at Central Michigan, all our road weekend games are in-state. All of our home weekday games are against MAC "West" teams.

One other nice nugget, the games on 1/11, 1/25, and 3/1 are currently set to be double-headers with the women, but of course subject to change with game(s) flexed to Friday.

Could be fun times in the Convo.


We have a chance to jump out to a quick 5-1 start. Not a bad structure to the conference schedule for OHIO.

I did get a chuckle when it said non-con schedule won't be released for "several" more weeks. At this rate, we are looking at October 1st. It's a tradition unlike any other.


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