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Topic:  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
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shabamon
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   Posted: 4/26/2024 2:34:28 PM 
EMU grabs two Depaul transfers, Jalen Terry and Da'sean Nelson. Both started most of Depaul's games and were semi-productive.
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   Posted: 4/26/2024 3:49:13 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


If this feels weird - The catalyst is Julian's high school teammate at Thomas Worthington (same class) Tyrese Hughey is at Furman.

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   Posted: 4/26/2024 8:48:12 PM 
Greenville is a million times better than Kent, too.

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   Posted: 4/27/2024 10:02:28 AM 
Bowen Hardman to Akron. The reload by Groce continues.

Last Edited: 4/27/2024 10:04:58 AM by FJC31
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shabamon
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   Posted: 4/27/2024 11:48:20 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
Bowen Hardman to Akron. The reload by Groce continues.


Will eat my words if this proves otherwise, but I would take Sheldon over him 10 times out of ten.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/27/2024 1:25:18 PM 
FJC31 wrote:
Bowen Hardman to Akron. The reload by Groce continues.


Portal closes May 1st. When do you expect us to have our portal big (minus Vic Searls) locked in by?

May 15
May 30
June 15

Last Edited: 4/27/2024 1:46:29 PM by FearLeon

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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   Posted: 4/27/2024 2:34:31 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.
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   Posted: 4/27/2024 2:44:17 PM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.


My thoughts exactly. Says a lot about the state of the MAC right now.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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   Posted: 4/27/2024 5:06:50 PM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.


Furman University is ranked #46 out of 211 National Liberal Arts Colleges for academics per US News. He made a good choice.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/28/2024 12:04:22 AM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.


Maybe that's not his thinking.

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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/28/2024 12:39:17 AM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.


The SoCon has been better than the MAC for a few seasons now. I would definitely view it as a step up.

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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/28/2024 9:01:25 AM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
GraffZ06 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Julian Sullinger to Furman


Good to know players now view the SoCon as a step up from the MAC. Eeesh.


The SoCon has been better than the MAC for a few seasons now. I would definitely view it as a step up.



Furmans endowment is probably larger than ours. Maybe their NIL pool is larger too

Last Edited: 4/28/2024 9:01:48 AM by colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/28/2024 9:30:04 AM 
Is it a MAC problem or geographical problem now that NIL is place? Just noticing a lot of southern mid-major schools have become more prominent in hoops since the adaption. Money talks, but perhaps climate is playing a factor in the decision. A milder winter during the season might be preferred after a few years north. Just my own speculation on the shift.
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   Posted: 4/28/2024 2:32:21 PM 
FJC31 wrote:
Is it a MAC problem or geographical problem now that NIL is place? Just noticing a lot of southern mid-major schools have become more prominent in hoops since the adaption. Money talks, but perhaps climate is playing a factor in the decision. A milder winter during the season might be preferred after a few years north. Just my own speculation on the shift.


Could be geographical, but the SoCon also just out spends the MAC on basketball now. Not massively, but both the median and average program budget in the SoCon exceeds the MAC now. That wasn't true as recently as 2019, but MAC spending has decreased.

Think that's a good indicator of how hard it is to fund both football and basketball at a school like a MAC school that doesn't generate a ton of revenue from either. Kind of crazy that our budget is in line with VMI, which is a tiny state school, has never won anything of note in basketball, plays in a tiny market, etc. Student fees alone should let us dwarf a school like that, but our spend has to stretch further, I guess.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/28/2024 4:34:33 PM 
Agree with FJC and BLSOS.
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   Posted: 4/28/2024 5:11:29 PM 
Ike is visiting Nicholls this weekend. I wonder if the door is still open for him to withdraw from the portal.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Portal Watchin 2024
   Posted: 4/29/2024 9:22:54 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
Is it a MAC problem or geographical problem now that NIL is place? Just noticing a lot of southern mid-major schools have become more prominent in hoops since the adaption. Money talks, but perhaps climate is playing a factor in the decision. A milder winter during the season might be preferred after a few years north. Just my own speculation on the shift.


Could be geographical, but the SoCon also just out spends the MAC on basketball now. Not massively, but both the median and average program budget in the SoCon exceeds the MAC now. That wasn't true as recently as 2019, but MAC spending has decreased.

Think that's a good indicator of how hard it is to fund both football and basketball at a school like a MAC school that doesn't generate a ton of revenue from either. Kind of crazy that our budget is in line with VMI, which is a tiny state school, has never won anything of note in basketball, plays in a tiny market, etc. Student fees alone should let us dwarf a school like that, but our spend has to stretch further, I guess.


Or again...it could be that his childhood best friend is on the team he is joining?!?!

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   Posted: 4/29/2024 9:45:12 AM 
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Or again...it could be that his childhood best friend is on the team he is joining?!?!


Or, we could now be having a different conversation about the relative state of the MAC vs. the SoCon, and you're just failing to follow how the conversation's changed and throwing a little hissy fit for no reason.

I know my vote.

Last Edited: 4/29/2024 9:45:58 AM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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   Posted: 4/29/2024 10:10:22 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
Is it a MAC problem or geographical problem now that NIL is place? Just noticing a lot of southern mid-major schools have become more prominent in hoops since the adaption. Money talks, but perhaps climate is playing a factor in the decision. A milder winter during the season might be preferred after a few years north. Just my own speculation on the shift.


Could be geographical, but the SoCon also just out spends the MAC on basketball now. Not massively, but both the median and average program budget in the SoCon exceeds the MAC now. That wasn't true as recently as 2019, but MAC spending has decreased.

Think that's a good indicator of how hard it is to fund both football and basketball at a school like a MAC school that doesn't generate a ton of revenue from either. Kind of crazy that our budget is in line with VMI, which is a tiny state school, has never won anything of note in basketball, plays in a tiny market, etc. Student fees alone should let us dwarf a school like that, but our spend has to stretch further, I guess.


Or again...it could be that his childhood best friend is on the team he is joining?!?!


Sure, but they could have teamed up at a number of different places including Kent if that was the main cog.
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   Posted: 4/29/2024 11:50:10 AM 
Ra’heim Moss to Oregon.
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   Posted: 4/29/2024 12:30:22 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:


Or again...it could be that his childhood best friend is on the team he is joining?!?!


Or, we could now be having a different conversation about the relative state of the MAC vs. the SoCon, and you're just failing to follow how the conversation's changed and throwing a little hissy fit for no reason.

I know my vote.


A "different" conversation started by someone quoting "Sullinger to Furman" and then concluding players view the SoCon as a step up. The conversation is only happening because of Sullinger's decision, which is clearly driven by the friend's presence. My impression is Hughey would not have been able to find a spot at Kent as he has only been a part-time player for Furman.

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   Posted: 4/29/2024 12:49:16 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:


A "different" conversation started by someone quoting "Sullinger to Furman" and then concluding players view the SoCon as a step up.


Yes.

Andrew Ruck wrote:

The conversation is only happening because of Sullinger's decision, which is clearly driven by the friend's presence.


Also, yes.

But that doesn't mean that questions weren't posed that are no longer about Sullinger's specific decision, and those are the questions I responded to. What FJC asked is in no way answered by this:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

My impression is Hughey would not have been able to find a spot at Kent as he has only been a part-time player for Furman.


There are several people here who now perceive the SoCon as above the MAC, and now we're discussing that. Not sure why you're having trouble following that.

Last Edited: 4/29/2024 12:49:39 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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   Posted: 4/29/2024 1:37:52 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:


Or again...it could be that his childhood best friend is on the team he is joining?!?!


Or, we could now be having a different conversation about the relative state of the MAC vs. the SoCon, and you're just failing to follow how the conversation's changed and throwing a little hissy fit for no reason.

I know my vote.


My impression is Hughey would not have been able to find a spot at Kent as he has only been a part-time player for Furman.


Hughey is 6'6 and 220lbs with rotational experience at the D1 level. That's not easy to come by in the portal. He could easily find a spot at Kent and even on our roster.

Last Edited: 4/29/2024 1:39:10 PM by FJC31
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   Posted: 4/30/2024 5:32:50 AM 
Remember when VMI played crazy up-tempo and jacked threes all the time and it seemed like mad science?

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   Posted: 4/30/2024 6:59:24 AM 
JSF wrote:
Remember when VMI played crazy up-tempo and jacked threes all the time and it seemed like mad science?


Yep, they beat Kentucky at Rupp and then got absolutely blown out by Jacksonville State a few days later. Boom bust.

That coach left VMI for their biggest rival, The Citadel.
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