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Topic:  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
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bobcatsquared
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/15/2018 10:49:47 AM 
Not only a "stable genius" . . .

Not just the healthiest president ever. . .

But now, the least racist person, per his latest pronouncement: "I'm not a racist. I'm the least racist person you will ever interview."


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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/15/2018 11:16:03 AM 
bobcatsquared wrote:

But now, the least racist person, per his latest pronouncement: "I'm not a racist. I'm the least racist person you will ever interview."


But that is only because he is comparing himself to his immediate circle - Jeff Sessions, Mike Pence, Stephen Miller, etc.

The actual quote is -

"I'm not a racist. I'm the least racist person you will interview in this White House today."

Last Edited: 1/15/2018 11:17:01 AM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/15/2018 12:08:24 PM 
It's weird how often the least racist person alive has to reassure the nation that he's not racist.
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/15/2018 12:15:39 PM 
In honor of Martin Luther King, Jr., on his day, the following is what Bruce Springsteen has been sharing with his Broadway audiences:

"Martin Luther King said that the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I hope that that’s true. I believe that it’s true. And I believe that what we’re seeing now is just a bad chapter in the ongoing battle for the soul of the nation."

Doesn't mention anyone by name, but I don't think it's difficult to infer who it is directed at.

Last Edited: 1/15/2018 12:16:04 PM by bobcatsquared

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/18/2018 11:22:57 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Not saying that Trump is any kind of a saint, but he doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton either.


Your President, who "doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton" had cheated on Melania with a porn star while Melania was pregnant. He then paid her $130,000 not to say anything.

He's sounding more and more like Bill Clinton every day.
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   Posted: 1/18/2018 11:54:34 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Not saying that Trump is any kind of a saint, but he doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton either.


Your President, who "doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton" had cheated on Melania with a porn star while Melania was pregnant. He then paid her $130,000 not to say anything.

He's sounding more and more like Bill Clinton every day.



I'm pretty confident that Bill never told Monique that he liked her because he reminded him of Chelsea. That alone should revolt even the most disgusting person.
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/19/2018 1:16:52 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Not saying that Trump is any kind of a saint, but he doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton either.


Your President, who "doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton" had cheated on Melania with a porn star while Melania was pregnant. He then paid her $130,000 not to say anything.

He's sounding more and more like Bill Clinton every day.


The sad thing is that no one seems particularly outraged by this. It's like the entire country is just numb by now to any and all Trump related revelations. Could you imagine if Barack Obama had paid a porn star for sex while Michelle was pregnant? Impeachment proceedings would've started immediately.


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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/19/2018 1:39:39 PM 
DelBobcat wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Not saying that Trump is any kind of a saint, but he doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton either.


Your President, who "doesn't appear to be a Bill Clinton" had cheated on Melania with a porn star while Melania was pregnant. He then paid her $130,000 not to say anything.

He's sounding more and more like Bill Clinton every day.


The sad thing is that no one seems particularly outraged by this. It's like the entire country is just numb by now to any and all Trump related revelations. Could you imagine if Barack Obama had paid a porn star for sex while Michelle was pregnant? Impeachment proceedings would've started immediately.


Honestly, I think the lack of outrage is a symptom of the fact that people on the right just refuse to believe anything negative about their party. The right in America's become comically susceptible to crazy conspiracy theories; Fox News, which is far and away the biggest right-wing news source, peddles unproven, unsourced conspiracies constantly and work very hard to convince their viewers that the Left in America is dangerous and immoral. The President himself -- the head of fucking state -- has coined a widely used phrase designed to discredit the media, making it easier and easier for his supporters to convince themselves stories they don't like are fake, but the ones the do like aren't. And right-wing sycophants have lapped it up because they love the Constitution provided the Constitution only comprises the 2nd Amendment.

For instance, remember during the election when Trump and people here were arguing that unemployment numbers cited by the Obama admin weren't reliable and that the "real" unemployment rate was a 5x the rate cited by Obama? Now that Trump's in charge, the regular ol' employment rate seems fine again. And none of his supporters are here claiming otherwise.

In this thread alone, we have people who are more willing to entertain the idea of a vast media conspiracy involving literally hundreds of news sources and dozens of corroborating witnesses than they are to accept that our obviously sleazy President is obviously sleazy.

The Russia investigation, which has resulted in three arrests and tons of smoke is a #deepstate conspiracy by the famously liberal FBI to take down Trump.

There was a pedophile ring being run by Hillary Clinton and her donors out of a pizza restaurant in DC.

The list's literally endless. Fox News mainstreamed three new conspiracy theories just last night. The party in power -- the party that controls every branch of the Government -- convinces it's supporters that the Government's run by a shadowy cabal and everything that happens is completely out of their control.

It's batshit crazy.

Last Edited: 1/19/2018 1:56:29 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/24/2018 9:36:10 AM 
Now the GOP is literally pushing the idea of a "secret society" of FBI agents who were going to do whatever it took to take down Trump:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/24/fox-news-first-new-i...

At what point to Conservative Americans start to see this as an affront to their intelligence?
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/24/2018 10:39:45 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Now the GOP is literally pushing the idea of a "secret society" of FBI agents who were going to do whatever it took to take down Trump:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/24/fox-news-first-new-i...

At what point to Conservative Americans start to see this as an affront to their intelligence?


They do not see anything at all, that is the problem. They simply regurgitate tweets and talking points off of Fox News.
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   Posted: 1/24/2018 1:26:50 PM 
You think eventually they'd call Fox News' track record into question.

Looking at the Russia investigation alone, here's a list of things they've thrown against the wall thus far:

1. That the real Russia scandal involved Hillary Clinton and Uranium One. That one was pushed here. And because there was no factual backing for it, it rightly disappeared.

2. That Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC because he leaked emails to Wikileaks. Sean Hannity repeated this and said it "blows the entire Russian collusion story up."

3. That U.S. Intelligence Agencies (i.e. the Deep State) are organizing a coup against Donald Trump and the Russia investigation is a made-up conspiracy to further those aims. Jessie Waters said flatly that there was a coup in process. An employee of the White House then appeared on Fox News to confirm that.

4. That Hillary Clinton should be in jail for. . .colluding with Russia. Janine Pirro, a TV Judge and somehow news contributor, called for Clinton's imprisonment over this. Despite no supporting evidence.

Like I said: it's batshit crazy.
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/24/2018 10:43:36 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Now the GOP is literally pushing the idea of a "secret society" of FBI agents who were going to do whatever it took to take down Trump:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/24/fox-news-first-new-i...

At what point to Conservative Americans start to see this as an affront to their intelligence?


But you forget:

This is the same news channel that, just months before Obama was elected, stated that it was treasonous to protest the President...only to say that it was the most patriotic thing ever months after Obama took office.

This is the same news channel that defended the elements of the Patriot Act during the Bush years, only to decry them under Obama.

This is the same news channel that will defend a person's right to deny a gay couple a wedding cake based on their beliefs, but will decry a business denying a Trump voter service based on the same thinking of against beliefs.

Speaking of religious liberty....This is the same news channel that will have a breaking news story to state that "Candidate Barack Obama may possibly be a Muslim" as if it were a problem, and go on to state that there will be more on that later. (This is fact, I watched them live when they did this. They never followed up)

This is the same news channel that will decry Bill Clinton and his past with women, but then try to protect their own problem men, and if they can't completely defend them they will at least give them a huge retirement package and bonus.

Shall I go on?


The opposing team sucks!

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/25/2018 1:00:20 PM 
One word perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy of the GOP

"Mulligan"

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/25/2018 9:33:11 PM 
At this point, Trump and/or people very close to him are either guilty of collusion, or Trump is just the biggest idiot alive. There's really no other possibilities.

If he's NOT guilty of anything, he -- for no reason at all, with nothing to hide -- asked Comey for loyalty, asked him to drop the Flynn probe, and then fired Comey. He followed that up by pressuring Sessions not to recuse and pressuring Sessions to fire McCabe. He then pressured Coats, Rogers, Pompeo & multiple congressmen to say he wasn’t under FBI investigation. And tried to fire Mueller and only failed because his counsel threatened to resign before he'd follow those orders.

Not to mention, he's waged a war in the media against the FBI and has made a concerted effort to convince America to no longer trust law enforcement or the media.

If you're truly innocent and still bumble your way through this investigation that badly? You're an idiot, and there's really no denying it.

But good news: Hannity's leading with a story about Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch speaking to each other on the tarmac. So he's on the case.

Last Edited: 1/25/2018 9:34:31 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/25/2018 11:28:01 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
At this point, Trump and/or people very close to him are either guilty of collusion, or Trump is just the biggest idiot alive. There's really no other possibilities.

If he's NOT guilty of anything, he -- for no reason at all, with nothing to hide -- asked Comey for loyalty, asked him to drop the Flynn probe, and then fired Comey. He followed that up by pressuring Sessions not to recuse and pressuring Sessions to fire McCabe. He then pressured Coats, Rogers, Pompeo & multiple congressmen to say he wasn’t under FBI investigation. And tried to fire Mueller and only failed because his counsel threatened to resign before he'd follow those orders.

Not to mention, he's waged a war in the media against the FBI and has made a concerted effort to convince America to no longer trust law enforcement or the media.

If you're truly innocent and still bumble your way through this investigation that badly? You're an idiot, and there's really no denying it.

But good news: Hannity's leading with a story about Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch speaking to each other on the tarmac. So he's on the case.


I bet Bobby Fox could defend this and do so in his best Shawn Hannity voice
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/26/2018 10:28:07 AM 
I dare you to say that to my face, Wayne.
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   Posted: 1/26/2018 12:01:02 PM 
No need for personal attacks, guys. We can have a conversation about this without it being incendiary on a personal level.

I find Fox News' coverage of this to be particularly interesting. Here's a rundown of Hannity's response: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-fox-news-f... . With video.

Basically he insists early in his show that the story's fake, and that Fox News' sources haven't verified it.

Later in the same show, Fox News' sources do verify the story and he basically says it's not important and that they'll talk about it tomorrow.

What's particularly interesting isn't Hannity, but rather that this morning Fox & Friends completely ignored the fact that Fox News sources also verified the story and went back to calling it 'Fake News' because Trump did so.

Here's that clip: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/956846798877978624 .

Their own sources verified the story and instead of reporting that, they insist the story's fake because the President said so. That's how state news organizations function. Isn't it super clear that they're lying to people? Their viewers should be insulted.

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   Posted: 1/26/2018 12:19:41 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
I dare you to say that to my face, Wayne.


Typical, Robert, threat of violence. Your first problem would be finding the right person to put with the post. The second problem you would have is cashing that check you just wrote.
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   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:16:56 PM 
No worries there, you little piece of work.
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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:21:33 PM 
I was not even participating in this thread as of late, and the useless BTC who cowers behind his screen name calls me out. It's typical of him because over the year's, he's shown himself to be a bully and punk.

Somehow, this behavior is acceptable on BA.com. If it's allowed to continue, I'm out. I'm done with this site.

And if you're man enough to show yourself "Billy," bring it.

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:28:34 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
I was not even participating in this thread as of late, and the useless BTC who cowers behind his screen name calls me out. It's typical of him because over the year's, he's shown himself to be a bully and punk.

Somehow, this behavior is acceptable on BA.com. If it's allowed to continue, I'm out. I'm done with this site.

And if you're man enough to show yourself "Billy," bring it.



With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit to being "called out." You've typically, in this thread, been the one to defend various Republicans' actions, which is what BillytheCat was likely reacting to. I'm not sure that what BTC did rises to the level of behavior that's unacceptable. Annoying? Sure. But harmlessly so.

On the other hand, I think we all agree that threats of physical violence do rise to that level. There's no need for this conversation to head there.

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   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:33:15 PM 
I didn't know you were the judge.
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   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:35:32 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Robert Fox wrote:
I was not even participating in this thread as of late, and the useless BTC who cowers behind his screen name calls me out. It's typical of him because over the year's, he's shown himself to be a bully and punk.

Somehow, this behavior is acceptable on BA.com. If it's allowed to continue, I'm out. I'm done with this site.

And if you're man enough to show yourself "Billy," bring it.



With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit to being "called out." You've typically, in this thread, been the one to defend various Republicans' actions, which is what BillytheCat was likely reacting to. I'm not sure that what BTC did rises to the level of behavior that's unacceptable. Annoying? Sure. But harmlessly so.

On the other hand, I think we all agree that threats of physical violence do rise to that level. There's no need for this conversation to head there.


Exactly! And Robert whatever your issue is you should seek help. But threatening others is not going to be very beneficial to you.
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   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:36:34 PM 
As I said Billy, bring it. Or are you still hiding behind your screen name?

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  Message Not Read  RE: How many will kneel at 1:00 today?
   Posted: 1/26/2018 1:36:41 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
I was not even participating in this thread as of late, and the useless BTC who cowers behind his screen name calls me out. It's typical of him because over the year's, he's shown himself to be a bully and punk.

Somehow, this behavior is acceptable on BA.com. If it's allowed to continue, I'm out. I'm done with this site.

And if you're man enough to show yourself "Billy," bring it.



I am easily available, just make sure you approach the right person. It would be even worse if you got hurt attacking the wrong person.
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