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Cellis033
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  Message Not Read  Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/20/2022 4:19:08 PM 
Just now noticed this article - Scott Quad is still sitting vacant last time I heard.

https://www.thepostathens.com/article/2021/11/scott-quad-...


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   Posted: 1/20/2022 4:38:57 PM 
I find this upsetting. We need to save buildings like this.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/21/2022 7:04:06 AM 
Hanna Campbell also had an opinion piece talking about this in The Post a couple of days earlier.

When Ms.Nissley's article came out I emailed her about Scott Quad.

Scoot Quad was a men's dorm,when I was at O.U.

The building is a unique architectural structure.
It is the only "quad" on campus.

That alone makes it worth preserving.

Once its gone, its gone.

O.U. has a history of making really bad decisions when it
comes to certain buildings.

Remember the Tuberculosis Ward at the Ridges ?

Seemed like a couple of days after they tore it down, O.U.
regretted the decision.

O.U. seems to make a decision, then come up with reasons to try to justify it.

"Deferred Maintenance" on a building means "we ignore it, let it deteriorate, then say its too costly to fix".

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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/21/2022 3:15:11 PM 
In the 90s and 2000s, we were on a building spree. Now, we're on a demolition spree.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/21/2022 3:25:19 PM 
I'm guessing Cutler, Putnam and McGuffey are maintenance nightmares to, so...



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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/22/2022 11:38:25 AM 
Not all buildings are worth saving but this one feels pretty unique architecturally being the only quad on campus.

I do agree that it is a waste to sit empty. This is prime location. Either make this a priority and fix it or do something else. It's a very central location which could be a hub for campus and help bring it all together.


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   Posted: 1/22/2022 12:10:11 PM 
They should have found the money, renovated it for Our Honor's Tutorial program which is modeled on the British system, making the building a perfect fit.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/22/2022 12:18:30 PM 
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/23/2022 4:55:26 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.


Over the decades, having seen a goodly part of the world, it is clear that we Americans don't have the same respect for historic structures as do other cultures. That observation applies to academic buildings.

An example. Back in the 1400s, England's king endorsed a school for economically underprivileged boys. It was anointed Christ's Hospital School and was the equivalent of a grades 1-12 school. During the next 400 years increasing enrollment was overflowing the London campus. So a new campus was built about an hour's drive south of London in West Sussex. My British friend Peter Bloomfield is an alum of Christ's Hospital. Once he drove me to the "new" campus whose complex of buildings was constructed in the 1890s. During our visit, I asked Peter how those 125-year-old buildings could do justice to the electronic/digital age and its students.

Peter replied that the interiors of the buildings had been gutted to make way for installing cables.

I asked, "Was any thought given to razing them and building anew?"

His reaction was visceral. His eyes widened in surprise at my question. His reply, "Of course not."

Another example: In France my favorite village is Ribeauville. Its oldest building houses a hotel and restaurant and dates to 1392. My friends Christophe and Laura live in a home built in 1513. In December 2014 I was visiting to take in the outdoor Christmas market. One day Laura related that the next day would be their son Frederic's last before the Christmas break. She said students would be displaying projects they had been working on during the fall term.

"Would you like to go?" she asked.

"Yes."

A 10-minute stroll had us approaching the school. Its architectural design suggested a birth in the 1800s. Inside were signs of wear - scuffed flooring, marred doors, etc. But the building's outside was pristine - facade, window treatments, roofing. I remember thinking that the school still would be standing for students for another 150 or so years.

My hometown is Shelby. 1874 saw its first high school graduating class. The town's students are now in its 5th high school. Average life of those 5 schools - about 30 years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/23/2022 7:41:13 PM 
Thanks for the post, Mike. Good stuff.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/24/2022 11:58:54 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.


Overbuilt, but we are still building more ;-)

Makes sense
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/24/2022 3:42:13 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.


I agree. Not sure what they could repurpose Scott Quad into. I believe OUPD still operates one of the first floor.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/24/2022 3:59:58 PM 
Cellis033 wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.


I agree. Not sure what they could repurpose Scott Quad into. I believe OUPD still operates one of the first floor.


OUPD is up on the Ridges
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/25/2022 11:48:10 AM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
I was recently informed that the OU administration feels that the campus is 20% overbuilt. Having travelled most of the states east of the Mississippi and being a student of school architecture, there have been some amazing repurposings of old educational buildings that we might consider before bringing in the wrecking ball.


Over the decades, having seen a goodly part of the world, it is clear that we Americans don't have the same respect for historic structures as do other cultures. That observation applies to academic buildings.

An example. Back in the 1400s, England's king endorsed a school for economically underprivileged boys. It was anointed Christ's Hospital School and was the equivalent of a grades 1-12 school. During the next 400 years increasing enrollment was overflowing the London campus. So a new campus was built about an hour's drive south of London in West Sussex. My British friend Peter Bloomfield is an alum of Christ's Hospital. Once he drove me to the "new" campus whose complex of buildings was constructed in the 1890s. During our visit, I asked Peter how those 125-year-old buildings could do justice to the electronic/digital age and its students.

Peter replied that the interiors of the buildings had been gutted to make way for installing cables.

I asked, "Was any thought given to razing them and building anew?"

His reaction was visceral. His eyes widened in surprise at my question. His reply, "Of course not."

Another example: In France my favorite village is Ribeauville. Its oldest building houses a hotel and restaurant and dates to 1392. My friends Christophe and Laura live in a home built in 1513. In December 2014 I was visiting to take in the outdoor Christmas market. One day Laura related that the next day would be their son Frederic's last before the Christmas break. She said students would be displaying projects they had been working on during the fall term.

"Would you like to go?" she asked.

"Yes."

A 10-minute stroll had us approaching the school. Its architectural design suggested a birth in the 1800s. Inside were signs of wear - scuffed flooring, marred doors, etc. But the building's outside was pristine - facade, window treatments, roofing. I remember thinking that the school still would be standing for students for another 150 or so years.

My hometown is Shelby. 1874 saw its first high school graduating class. The town's students are now in its 5th high school. Average life of those 5 schools - about 30 years.


You're right on the money. That has been my observation for many years. We have perfectly good buildings and someone builds something similar right down the street. Then most of the tenants leave for the new place, the old one goes downhill and they tear it down. Wash, rinse, repeat. Lots of fights in Pittsburgh with historical buildings.

I recall staying at Scott Quad years ago on a homecoming trip. Not sure when that was. Will be a total shame if they do it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/25/2022 2:19:25 PM 
Imagine tearing down this 1927 beauty - perhaps the most beautiful high school in America. Thankfully it's now part of the National Parks Service and continues to operate as a public school today. I got to teach a few classes there not too long ago - a truly humbling experience. The late Frank Henderson, an emeritus OU prof and my former neighbor, was the four black graduate of this school.

https://www.nps.gov/chsc/index.htm
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   Posted: 1/25/2022 3:04:14 PM 
Not just beautiful but historically significant.

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   Posted: 1/25/2022 5:46:26 PM 
In Tennessee, the ironically named "Moms for Liberty" are a GOP group trying to ban books about Ruby Bridges because it's too harsh in it's description of a “large crowd of angry white people who didn’t want Black children in a white school,” as well as for not offering “redemption” in the end.

I'm old enough to remember when conservatives were rightly concerned about speech on college campuses and trigger warnings and safe spaces and the like. Turns out you turn the BS dial shit Critical Race Theory up to 10 on Fox News, ONN, and social media and suddenly conservatives want safe spaces of their own.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Goodbye Scott Quad...
   Posted: 1/25/2022 8:59:57 PM 
History deniers - jus as they are science deniers

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrEzN...

who's angry - come pn

https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrExdyg...

Last Edited: 1/25/2022 9:02:41 PM by cc-cat

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   Posted: 1/25/2022 11:43:26 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
History deniers - jus as they are science deniers

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrEzN...

who's angry - come pn

https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrExdyg...


I'm pretty disgusted people thought that way back then - One of America's darkest chapters in my opinion. I hope others my age will be the most accepting of diversity generation yet.


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   Posted: 1/26/2022 8:54:04 AM 
This makes me sad about the state of the university but also on a personal level. I was an RA in Scott Quad for two years. It was at the time the smallest dorm on campus (88 residents, I think). Quiet study and upperclass when I was there. It attracted a lot of international students, and I made friends from around the world that I still keep in touch with to this day. I guess the newer dorms are what kids want now, but it's hard to imagine something made more solidly than that building. I agree with a lot of the comments on our disposable culture and unwillingness to put a little effort into saving things worth saving.
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   Posted: 1/27/2022 9:16:03 AM 
The wrecking ball was active during my stint at OHIO.

Watched Ewing Hall and Howard Hall come tumbling down. Nothing rebuilt in either locations.

Too bad Scott Quad couldn't become the math building or the music building and instead tear down the significantly UGLY Morton or Glidden Halls. Now those are some real campus treasures from the exterior point of view.
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   Posted: 1/27/2022 12:04:29 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
The wrecking ball was active during my stint at OHIO.

Watched Ewing Hall and Howard Hall come tumbling down. Nothing rebuilt in either locations.

Too bad Scott Quad couldn't become the math building or the music building and instead tear down the significantly UGLY Morton or Glidden Halls. Now those are some real campus treasures from the exterior point of view.


I didn't mind Ewing coming down. I had a class there in the basement auditorium. Wood everywhere and the only exit were the stairs leading up to ground level. A firetrap. I too hated to see lovely Howard fall. We then donated to the creation of the park on that site.


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   Posted: 1/27/2022 1:03:41 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:


I didn't mind Ewing coming down. I had a class there in the basement auditorium. Wood everywhere and the only exit were the stairs leading up to ground level. A firetrap. I too hated to see lovely Howard fall. We then donated to the creation of the park on that site.


I had one class there.

Winter Quarter of my Sophomore year.

I remember it because most days there was no heat in the
building.

Had to wear coats, hats and sometimes, gloves.

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   Posted: 1/27/2022 3:59:56 PM 
Recovering Journalist wrote:
This makes me sad about the state of the university but also on a personal level. I was an RA in Scott Quad for two years. It was at the time the smallest dorm on campus (88 residents, I think). Quiet study and upperclass when I was there. It attracted a lot of international students, and I made friends from around the world that I still keep in touch with to this day. I guess the newer dorms are what kids want now, but it's hard to imagine something made more solidly than that building. I agree with a lot of the comments on our disposable culture and unwillingness to put a little effort into saving things worth saving.


I hope they can find a way to repurpose it. I've heard from kids that last roomed there in 2019, that Scott Quad had a bad mold problem to the extent that mold would actually form on their walls after being carried through the HVAC system. Maintenance apparently would just come and scrape the mold off the walls. One of my gf's closest friends roomed there then and had to deal with a bad sinus infection most likely due to the mold.


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   Posted: 1/27/2022 7:08:07 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
The wrecking ball was active during my stint at OHIO.

Watched Ewing Hall and Howard Hall come tumbling down. Nothing rebuilt in either locations.

Too bad Scott Quad couldn't become the math building or the music building and instead tear down the significantly UGLY Morton or Glidden Halls. Now those are some real campus treasures from the exterior point of view.


I didn't mind Ewing coming down. I had a class there in the basement auditorium. Wood everywhere and the only exit were the stairs leading up to ground level. A firetrap. I too hated to see lovely Howard fall. We then donated to the creation of the park on that site.



I interviewed for a position in the Spring of '74 in Ewing, and when I returned in the Fall, it was gone.

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